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author: theunknown404 time: 2016-1-25 11:12:29 Title: Let's Praise More

Lord Ganju--no, now that I have gotten the rant thread out of the way, let's praise them for what this game has gotten right lately. (It's not really GoGames, but we will praise them for being smart enough not to nerf).

As much as I hate spending the money, Katen is a step in the right direction. The biggest problem with zanpakuto is that their skills conflict with partner's skills. Katen mitigates this issue with a 1-round skill that could only conflict with one partner whose speed we don't really need to depend on and can be moved to skill at the end of the round.

With this, they can release all kinds of new partners that boost damage rate, speed, or attack without any trouble. Even partners like Kirinji can sound more appealing now to people who are actually going to pay in this game with his speed buff, and he's pretty cheap, relatively speaking. So basically, if you don't get their new fancy zanpakuto, you could be f-ed in the future. The good news is that it costs less top-up than Tensa in this event, so it's not as painful to Tensa users (but still hurts lol).

Also, doubling the number of modify fragments per dojo chance for new red partners is a very critical move. They basically just cut the time and cost of modifying in half. I think mods are supposed to be fun, and with the way they set it up before, they made it pretty impossible to feel that way. I mean, most of them just barely help for the price. By the time you even got to the 5th or 6th mod, the partner would already be outdated, and wtf was the point? Maybe nobody else feels it, but I feel more encouraged to hand them my money. lol.

Shinigami Agent. Need I say more?

I would still suggest a super fast partner that boosts hp and defense of the team by a lot but does minimal damage to the enemy. Maybe even aid rate. Anything to make PvP last more than one round. It's so boring as is. The key is that they have to be able to skill first, though.

author: playbleach2 time: 2016-1-25 11:40:54

#TOP TO BOTTOM WORTH READING*THUMPS UP

author: RiadDahoe time: 2016-1-25 11:54:43

What a load of Bullcrap..... whahaha i'm just kidding lolzzzzz ps the double mod frags is due to Accelerate Modify right....

author: Sylencer90 time: 2016-1-25 11:56:41

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author: gogeta654321 time: 2016-1-25 12:25:19

playbleach2 replied at 2016-1-25 21:40
#TOP TO BOTTOM WORTH READING*THUMPS UP

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author: Cronosel time: 2016-1-25 13:08:57

Lord Ganju agree

author: bwg2469 time: 2016-1-25 13:09:37

Oh this isn't about me.......cya guys

author: theunknown404 time: 2016-1-25 14:26:40

bwg2469 replied at 2016-1-25 13:09
Oh this isn't about me.......cya guys

Sorry, JC..

author: theunknown404 time: 2016-1-25 14:27:33

playbleach2 replied at 2016-1-25 11:40
#TOP TO BOTTOM WORTH READING*THUMPS UP

Thanks

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author: theunknown404 time: 2016-1-25 14:29:33

RiadDahoe replied at 2016-1-25 11:54
What a load of Bullcrap..... whahaha i'm just kidding lolzzzzz ps the double mod frags is due to Ac ...

Yes, the frags have doubled under Accelerate Modify, but Senjumaru and Hisagi both naturally have double the number of frags, so it's 4x that of partners like Oetsu and Hikifune atm.

author: NNatsu time: 2016-1-25 14:30:10

If you thought PvP was boring as is Katen is the worst possible Zanpakuto xD
It's just a one shot Zanpakuto. Do you have Senju? Are you faster? Here's 210% crit damage, gg.

author: theunknown404 time: 2016-1-25 14:32:14

Sylencer90 replied at 2016-1-25 11:56
All hail katen !

Katen and Senjumaru ftw.

author: theunknown404 time: 2016-1-25 14:42:35

NNatsu replied at 2016-1-25 14:30
If you thought PvP was boring as is Katen is the worst possible Zanpakuto xD
It's just a one shot Za ...

I agree on that part.

It doesn't really change much in my fights, though. It's just being hit with larger pretty numbers with the same result most of the time. lol

That defensive partner I'm suggesting would have to be a superman to stop that attack. 100% counter, block, 400+% defense, etc. Never seen counter in a skill. Aid rate by itself might work if you build your hp enough. I don't know.

author: NNatsu time: 2016-1-25 14:45:03

theunknown404 replied at 2016-1-25 14:42
I agree on that part.

It doesn't really change much in my fights, though. It's just being hit wit ...

There are few people who can withstand a round if they don't go first but they do exist.
There are the bwg's, the dragoons, etc.

author: I_MIKE_I time: 2016-1-25 15:02:34

To the partner you've suggested:

Mayuri actually does that somehow.

As for Katen, I love that they made it a different Zanpakuto, rather than just flat out raising everything.
At first sight, it may seem OP, BUT people oversee the fact that it doesn't give speed from it's active.

Let me explain:

Senju is the fastest chara but she does only restrict fury, not deduct it like Hikifune or Oetsu... which is actually useless in a T1-evironment.

If Senju goes first with a Tensa, Tensa gives a speedbuff to Hikifune, making her faster than a enemy Senju can be.

However... +100% crit dmg from fortify +160% crit from Katen's active sounds like something that's rather unlikely to survive IMO. Unless of course... you get blocked. ^.-

So I think there's a lot of stuff we keep overlooking here.

author: theunknown404 time: 2016-1-25 15:02:56

NNatsu replied at 2016-1-25 14:45
There are few people who can withstand a round if they don't go first but they do exist.
There are ...

Observe the wild bwg's and dragoons in their natural habitats...not dying...

author: theunknown404 time: 2016-1-25 15:28:31

I_MIKE_I replied at 2016-1-25 15:02
To the partner you've suggested:

Mayuri actually does that somehow.

Wouldn't Senjumaru still go first, though? If it's someone who can survive longer than one shot, Katen might not be the best. Admittedly, Tensa is not completely useless with the currently available partners.

I'm not sure how well Mayuri can do for us. You have to trade a lot of things to make him effective. Getting 140% block on all your team is not an easy task, and it will lower other stats for you to get the block stones on everyone. For me, block is pretty hard to get, but break defense is easy. Hypothetically, though, he could be good if used right, but there are also the characters that can have over 100% break defense. Block is not generally reliable. I would need to see it in action.

author: Lelouch71 time: 2016-1-25 15:55:09

Lord Ganju is best,he even went to the soul king's palace,when even Aizen couldn't see there.
So Ganju>Aizen

author: Sylencer90 time: 2016-1-25 16:08:41

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author: theunknown404 time: 2016-1-25 16:14:59

Lelouch71 replied at 2016-1-25 15:55
Lord Ganju is best,he even went to the soul king's palace,when even Aizen couldn't see there.
So Gan ...

Supposedly, Aizen was going to bring the Soul Palace out of the sky, but he got trumped by an underlying Quincy. Fail. lol.

author: theunknown404 time: 2016-1-25 16:15:25

Sylencer90 replied at 2016-1-25 16:08
Good to go right?

Almost, almost. X)

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author: Shadow49999 time: 2016-1-25 16:26:52

Sylencer90 replied at 2016-1-25 16:22
demon ichi or tsi incoming too

#TSI FOR UBP
#LOL THATD BE SUCH A TROLL BY GOGAMES
#GOGAMES

ETS FUCK WITH THE VIPS AND PUT TSI IN UBP
#GOGAMES:THEN LETS MAKE AN EVEN BETTER CHARACTER AND PUT IT IN THE GAME

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-1-25 16:53:43

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author: I_MIKE_I time: 2016-1-25 16:57:36

theunknown404 replied at 2016-1-25 15:28
Wouldn't Senjumaru still go first, though? If it's someone who can survive longer than one shot, K ...

I guess we wont know until some top-end guys actually test it.

Thing is, the average non-vip-10 will usually go for just offensive and pay relatively little attention to defensive - especially on supports, so there's no question Katen will just whipe them out.

However, if both teams are fully build in offensive and defensive, a Senju with Katen might not be enough to 1-shot the enemy Hikifune with Tensa.

Another possible outcome would be, that a Senju with Katen goes first, Kills a fully modded Brenji and gets all supports killed by Brenji's on-death attack.

But as mentioned, in the End it does come down to how much damage a Senju does with Katen.

AFAIK, normal crit does 50% more damage than a normal attack (at least that's what I found on the Forums).

Senju's skill has 140% on base...

The Fortification raises crit dmg by 100% on the last level, which can mean a lot but most likely only rises the crit damage to 100% from 50% (which makes only 25% bonus damage)..

Assuming the same worst case for Katen's active skill, crit would do another 80% of the normal damage.

The end Result would be roughly:
Senju normal skill: 140%
Senju crit skill: 210%
Senju + Katen Active crit skill: 290%
Senju + Katen Active + max fortify crit skill: 340%

However, Katen has no dmg rate active, so assuming Senju has a Tensa:
Senju normal skill: 175%
Senju crit skill: 262,5%

What I forgot to put in is the 7% higher damage rate of Katen.

Ofc, there are other unknowns:

You could theoretically not use a +10% speed to all/allys char and use Senju, Hikifune and Tenjiro, who'd make your Hikifune atk before the enemy hikifune. But this bears the risk that the enemy does use a +10% speed to all allys, which would provide exactly 1% more speed bonus with tensa than Katen's passive.

TL;DR:

I'd rate Katen slightly stronger, as it puts A LOT of pressure in terms of equipment, partners etc on those using Tensa.

In turn however, Katen does fall off harder after the initial damage, because he Active lasts only for 1 Turn, which for Senju&Kensei Teams etc. does not at all equal one round.

Anyway... I'm gonna get Katen, because having 2 girls follow me is so much better than a guy... and because I like to have a Zanpakuto that fortifies my partners... since I kinda plan on Sticking with the 0 Division.

PS: They'll add another Zanpakuto for sure, since Yhwach has no fortification yet and he's notably more expensive than Senju etc.

author: noctustheking time: 2016-1-25 17:04:18

I_MIKE_I replied at 2016-1-25 16:57
I guess we wont know until some top-end guys actually test it.

Thing is, the average non-vip-10 w ...

ps: oetsu also doesnt have a fortify zanpaktou lol

author: I_MIKE_I time: 2016-1-25 17:23:36

noctustheking replied at 2016-1-25 17:04
ps: oetsu also doesnt have a fortify zanpaktou lol

Yeah, I was rather surprised that they excluded him and added Tenjiro to Katen... even more so since Tenjiro's Evo is still bugged.

author: noctustheking time: 2016-1-25 17:48:55

I_MIKE_I replied at 2016-1-25 17:23
Yeah, I was rather surprised that they excluded him and added Tenjiro to Katen... even more so sin ...

next zan prolly minazuki or some shit
or demon tensa zangetsu

author: Lelouch71 time: 2016-1-25 17:58:24

noctustheking replied at 2016-1-25 17:48
next zan prolly minazuki or some shit
or demon tensa zangetsu

we still need Ryuujin Jakka,Kinshara,no need for demon tensa zangetsu shit tho...

author: Lelouch71 time: 2016-1-25 17:58:59

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-1-25 16:53
kirinji is and always will be a trap partner cause hes good low cost but they limited him with havin ...

umm what's rng? made me curious

author: noctustheking time: 2016-1-25 18:14:52

Lelouch71 replied at 2016-1-25 17:58
umm what's rng? made me curious

probably random attack with random ailments

author: Aristeaus time: 2016-1-25 19:44:54

I_MIKE_I replied at 2016-1-25 16:57
I guess we wont know until some top-end guys actually test it.

Thing is, the average non-vip-10 w ...

So, here is the thing.... You have no idea what you are talking about.

#1: Katen gives 80% crit rate. This means against even counter stacked characters, Katen will allow your Senju/whatever to crit 80% of the time. Tensa, means you never crit. There is no endgame that does not involve eventually getting Counter on all of your characters.
#2: You did all of your math terribly wrong. A Generic crit does do 1.5x damage. However, crit buffs increase the multiplier. So, with Katen crit skill, it would do 3.1x damage. With Katen + Max Fort? 4.1x damage. Golden Enchant? 4.3x damage. That is 140% TIMES 4.3. If you do 500k damage normally, you are hitting for well over 2 million now.
#3: Speed is not a factor at all. You have 5% higher natural speed with Katen, and if you are faster already, the speed buff does nothing. For example, if your Senju skills first, having +15% speed, still means your Senju skills first, and since speed determines the Zanpakuto order to begin with, it literally will never do anything for you.
#4: Katen's damage doesn't fall off. Everyone who has her has had huge jumps ( like +50% more damage ) in PvE over Tensa. Turns out, when you are hitting for the equivilency of 4 normal skill crits, you can afford to only do it twice a fight. lolol #SimpleMath

On a scale of 100:

Kazeshini is a 10.
Tensa is a 30.
Katen is a 100.

They aren't even close.

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2016-1-25 20:15:12

Aristeaus replied at 2016-1-26 00:44
So, here is the thing.... You have no idea what you are talking about.

#1: Katen gives 80% crit r ...

I didn't read it all

but Hozuki is 90 on the scale cos of a sweet af skill animation <3

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author: theunknown404 time: 2016-1-25 20:20:38

I_MIKE_I replied at 2016-1-25 16:57
I guess we wont know until some top-end guys actually test it.

Thing is, the average non-vip-10 w ...

Your calculation is slightly off. I've done a lot of work with figuring out how to calculate total damage on my Berserk Renji with all his bonuses. A critical hit gives 50% of a normal attack (multiply normal dmg by 1.5), but when you have bonus crit damage, it additionally multiplies that number. Otherwise, Berserk Renji's 50% critical damage buff would be completely useless. 100% crit bonus means: normalDamage * 1.5 for crit * 2.0 for crit bonus dmg
Also, Katen's critical damage bonus buff is 160% for one round. It raises crit rate by 80%. 140% skill attack + 50% of normal dmg for crit + fortify 100% + katen's skill 160% = 450% dmg of a normal attack. Also, if you use golden enchant stones to get the 20% crit dmg bonus on your weapon, 470% of a normal attack, so it's almost equivalent to attacking all enemies five times with normal hits. That's not even mentioning that Senjumaru has two attack character bonds, so her normal attack could potentially be 27% higher.

You are going to need a really good team to survive that. It probably could be done, though.

Katen does make up a little bit for their lack of speed buff by making the supporters 9% faster at start up than Tensa. Only 6% additional speed is missing after the first move, so at least it isn't a huge hole. Additionally, you could leave out hiki and use both Oetsu and Kirinji if you think they can get the job done that round. They are both heavy hitters, so they might have chance, not to mention their effects. In fact, that's one thing you have to worry about with Mayuri. He can have lots of block, but if he gets hit with 90% mutilate, he's done. He's so very slow and lacks fury deducton immunity, so he wouldn't have his shield up in time.

More than anything, I want Katen for PvE, though.

EDIT: Oh okay, someone finished answering before me xD

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-1-25 20:21:02

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author: Lelouch71 time: 2016-1-25 20:25:11

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-1-25 20:21
random number generator its commonly used to decide factors in games like how much an effect/skil ...

ooh so you're implying his skill hits randomly,he may/may not burn the enemy.. stuff like that i get it

author: I_MIKE_I time: 2016-1-25 20:31:32

Aristeaus replied at 2016-1-25 19:44
So, here is the thing.... You have no idea what you are talking about.

#1: Katen gives 80% crit r ...

#1 I was only putting the DMG in relation, to show people what dmg output they could expect / weither or not Katen would allow actually 1-hitting people reliably. Because as mentioned, you might get screwed if you "waste" some speed for other things and allow a enemy Hikifune to slot in.

#2 I didnt find any info on how the crit dmg increase works, so I assumed it would work like it does in other Games. If what you write is true, then it sure is quite awesome.

#3 Speed is a important factor... lets assume the following:
Team A: Senju+Hikifune+assault+vg with katen
Team B: Senju+Hikifune+assault+vg with tensa

Team A goes first with Senju, kills main+assault.
IF Team B's Senju attacks before team A's Hikifune, then Team B's Tensa will give the Speed Buff to Hikifune, allowing her to put the enemy Hikifune off of T1.

In T2+, Team B with the Speedbuff would be faster.

#4 I wonder how there's such an amount of people which had tensa and went for Katen on the 1st Day... while no Reports are to be found on the forum. I would have expected at least some reservation to throw away Tensa.

Even assuming you're correct with the DMG increase on crits, you can't make sure the 2nd active comes in at the same time as your chars skill (unless all your team skills every round), since a decent PvE Team will usually have Senju + Kensei/Isshin.

Another thing worth mentioning is, that Katen's bonus on crit damage doesnt do crap if your base damage is low. So it won't let you beat someone with flat out much stronger chars easily, just because you've stacked agi.

Anyway, I've yet to see any Battlereports... kinda surprised nobody posted them, would have loved to see the animation.

author: theunknown404 time: 2016-1-25 20:34:10

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-1-25 20:21
random number generator its commonly used to decide factors in games like how much an effect/skil ...

He could be good for a finisher still. First move, nah.

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author: Aristeaus time: 2016-1-25 20:42:15

I_MIKE_I replied at 2016-1-25 20:31
#1 I was only putting the DMG in relation, to show people what dmg output they could expect / weit ...

Nothing you wrong about #3 matters at all.

Team A attacks with Senju Katen buffed. Team B DIES.

There is no Turn 2. Senju will one shot any Assaulter and Support on the enemy team, and the enemy VG is dead a attack or two later.

Katen's crit damage buff does a fuck load even if your base damage is low. I really don't think you understand how multiplication works. Additionally, who the fuck is ever going to have a 40,000 gold Zanpakuto with LOW base damage? That's a dumb thing to even contemplate.

Anyway, there is a thread with battle reports. Literally teh first one posted by Noctus, has a Bankai Rukia critting for 3+ million damage. So... go find that.

author: RiadDahoe time: 2016-1-25 20:46:42

theunknown404 replied at 2016-1-25 14:29
Yes, the frags have doubled under Accelerate Modify, but Senjumaru and Hisagi both naturally have ...

nice.... and painful since i dont have them ..ouch

author: I_MIKE_I time: 2016-1-25 21:11:51

Aristeaus replied at 2016-1-25 20:42
Nothing you wrong about #3 matters at all.

Team A attacks with Senju Katen buffed. Team B DIES.

First, before you get what I write, stop insulting me.

Second, I know what multiplication means.

It means that you can have a 1000% Multiplier that doesn't help crap if your base damage is too low to damage the enemy.

Senju has 140% atk, if the enemy's supports have stronger gear/stones and what-not, it's not set in stone that Senju+Katen one shot the Sups, which means the enemy with Tensa isn't automatically gonna lose just because you get your Senju faster with stacking AGI+Katen being faster than Tensa.

I just want to make sure people notice that Katen works a bit different compared to the former good/top Zanpakuto which pretty much all gave a speed buff on active, ensuring all partners who's speed you cared about were faster if one was.

author: theunknown404 time: 2016-1-25 21:14:31

RiadDahoe replied at 2016-1-25 20:46
nice.... and painful since i dont have them ..ouch

Yup, that feeling when I found out they aren't even selling Senjumaru in this event but are putting her in Accel modify. lol GG

author: Aristeaus time: 2016-1-25 22:19:29

I_MIKE_I replied at 2016-1-25 21:11
First, before you get what I write, stop insulting me.

Second, I know what multiplication means.

First, sorry, but you make it really easy.

Second, Really don't think you do, since you still don't seem to get it.

Even a mediocre Senjumaru can easily reach 300k Kido attack with around +50% damage rate.

300k x 1.4 ( 140% skill ) = 420,000.
420,000 x 1.50 ( 50% damage rate ) = 630,000.
630,000 x 4.3 ( Katen buff, Fortify, and Golden Enchant ) = 2,709,000.

That is a mediocre one. Not a good Senjumaru. Not a stacked Senjumaru, and certainly not a VIP 9+ stacked Senjumaru.

Finally, The Good/Top Zanpakuto's giving speed buffs is, and has always been, complete irrelevant. The only time it ever mattered, was if your opponent:

1: Didn't have a zan with speed buff of his own.
2: Didn't wipe you/most of your team out on Turn 1.
3: Didn't CC your team in any way.
4: You have a character that survived, and could somehow turn the fight in your favor.

Which happens maybe once every 10,000 fights? So you are right, that "Speed buff" attached to Zanpakutos accounted for .01% on wins throughout the games history.

author: playbleach2 time: 2016-1-25 23:23:21

gogeta654321 replied at 2016-1-25 23:25
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#LOL FOLLOWING THE ALGORITHM

author: I_MIKE_I time: 2016-1-26 03:49:24

Aristeaus replied at 2016-1-25 22:19
First, sorry, but you make it really easy.

Second, Really don't think you do, since you still don ...

But AFAIK (and seen on Battlereports so far) crit etc. seems to be working like damage rate modifiers, which only raises the damage you do. If the enemy has higher stacked supports, your Base Damage would be low, and that low damage would get multiplied.

Granted, most going for Katen atm have never seen it, since they're in a spot where they are either whiped out by the one stronger than them right away, or dominate the opposition like that.

Again you fail to understand what I'm going on about.

With Katen, the only char you're granted to be faster than the enemy with the same formation and Tensa is Senju.

Your Senju -> His Senju -> His Hikifune -> His Tenjiro/Oetsu (?)

If the enemy's Supports survive, be it with aid, because they're more stacked or whatever, then he's got the upper hand.

author: Aristeaus time: 2016-1-26 05:34:59

I_MIKE_I replied at 2016-1-26 03:49
But AFAIK (and seen on Battlereports so far) crit etc. seems to be working like damage rate modifie ...

Defensive stats get applied after all the damage modifiers. So that 200k Kido defense you had, its only ever going to reduce kido damage by 200k. If it works to reduce base damage, it would be suprisingly overpowered.

The only "defensive" stat that modifies the multipliers is Immune rate. And really Damage and Immune rate are just the same modifier, but on different sides of the fight.

1: Who ever said Senju was the only fast character you could use? After all, you have Katen with +9% innate. Even Kirinji could be faster then a Tensa user with Senju.
2: For the enemy supports to survive, it would require either Aid Rate or massive stack difference.

In the case of Aid rate it would actually require multiple aid rates. A Tensa Senjumaru probably isn't one one shotting. Hikifune is likely the only single Aid rate that could make a difference alone, but shes slow. If 4/5ths of your team is wiped out before the fight even really starts, it shouldn't be overly difficult to win even with a single Aid.

The stack difference would have to be like the difference between me and BWG, or a F2P and me. If they are that stacked, then it doesn't matter all that much anyway.

author: gogeta654321 time: 2016-1-26 06:20:56

playbleach2 replied at 2016-1-26 09:23
#LOL FOLLOWING THE ALGORITHM

#NO

# JUST RETURNED FROM MATH CLASS

# IT FUCKING SUCKS

# DAMN THOSE THEOREMS

author: I_MIKE_I time: 2016-1-26 08:21:25

Aristeaus replied at 2016-1-26 05:34
Defensive stats get applied after all the damage modifiers. So that 200k Kido defense you had, its ...

No, Defensive goes vs. Attack, only after that come Damage Rate and Avoid.

At least that's how it seems to work, otherwise some Battlereports I've seen aren't explainable.

You can use Tenjiro, Senju and Oetsu/Shinso to make the most of your speed potential and ensure you hit 2nd, too. Which would be the strongest PvP build most likely.

If you use Hikifune and Senju, you can't leave out oetsu/shinso with their 10% speed buff, because the enemy Senju could be faster.

If you leave out Tenjiro, then the enemy can slot in their Senju+Hikifune or Senju+Tenjiro IF they survived.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-1-26 09:33:36

#Iagree! <3

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2016-1-26 14:47:29

BlackLusterGod replied at 2016-1-26 01:17
give BR! i dont think ive ever seen it b4

http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

defo second best skill animation for a Zan in the game

you can always see it if you do any COM difficulty against Hozukimaru (that way he hits more people instead of just vanguard, WAYYY more beautiful) ^^

author: tytheboy time: 2016-1-29 04:03:05

im still a vip 0 so i might have little to say in the matter... but i know that this is a good thing in this game and i see that with all the new stuff that have apeared latley this game will live one for a long while and people will keep spending on it XD
it even made me considder topping up too

#vip4
#ubpgodhelpme

author: theunknown404 time: 2016-1-29 08:54:49

tytheboy replied at 2016-1-29 04:03
im still a vip 0 so i might have little to say in the matter... but i know that this is a good thing ...

lol

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