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author: Chihiro135 time: 2016-2-18 10:50:12 Title: Shini Yoruichi vs Isshin

Edited by Chihiro135 at 2016-2-18 12:39

advice guys?
looking for a second assaulter who's a decent endgame partner for a 1-3-1 form with Senbon as zanpakuto, but cant decide who would work best with current partners.
also keeping in mind the exclusive sskills for each..

my current form is 2-2-1: T1 Kisuke, tavern Gin, Yama, main, Sajin with Kazeshini.

plan on keeping kisuke and yama, and eventually swapping sajin for either shin shura ken or hollow ichigo.
mainly a pvp player

author: jw4115ta time: 2016-2-18 11:06:03

get isshin, main-yamma-isshin
when you get shura ken you can exhange yamma with him during pve

author: gogeta654321 time: 2016-2-18 12:46:40

Wait i am confused? you have senbon but you run kazeshini? btw isshin is probably the best choice

and thought you were f2p? you topped up or something?

author: gogeta654321 time: 2016-2-18 12:47:03

Wait i am confused? you have senbon but you run kazeshini? btw isshin is probably the best choice

and thought you were f2p? you topped up or something?

author: grimmjowpantera time: 2016-2-18 13:29:47

hmm? berserk renji.

author: Brahmastra time: 2016-2-18 13:46:52

Isshin because PVE>PVP

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-2-18 15:07:37

Isshin will help boost anybody you put him with. plus with new skills, isshin is basicly a demi-god again, and he will help you in pve also.

author: Chihiro135 time: 2016-2-18 15:09:07

gogeta654321 replied at 2016-2-18 12:47
Wait i am confused? you have senbon but you run kazeshini? btw isshin is probably the best choice ...

lol a friend gave me a top up as a present but i still think of myself as f2p, esp coz i still havent spent the gold haha

Yea i got senbon from the rice dumpling event but because my kazeshini is more fortified and i was using kisuke to make my assaulters T1 i have to fortify senbon and get kisukes speed waaaay up before i swap to senbon.

And im thinking for the future lol, im pretty sure both shini yoru and isshin will be back in ubp at some point so im trying to decide nw who wud be a good choice for my form. I think isshins exclusive skill is awesome too, but ive read on forum that shini yoru is necessary for a lot of things so its a hard choice, hence thread i guess ^^

author: Unholyknight time: 2016-2-18 15:09:27

Go with Isshin if your going with a 1-3-1, I have Shini Yoruichi and she falls off pretty fast endgame. Plus Combo really helps in PVE

author: Chihiro135 time: 2016-2-18 15:16:12

Unholyknight replied at 2016-2-18 15:09
Go with Isshin if your going with a 1-3-1, I have Shini Yoruichi and she falls off pretty fast endga ...

wow really? i guess im basing my opinions of shini yoru a lot on my experiences in csb, she would screw my team over being last survivor. thanks, its good to hear from someone who has her

author: Suzuken time: 2016-2-18 15:18:47

i don't even have to read anything other than the title
isshin.
Shini is expired now, useless.
low tire, early game. yes useful.
Mid tire player, Old server.
waste of time.
if you have kisuke then T1 gin and Isshin= Assault line is dead.

author: Chihiro135 time: 2016-2-18 15:20:10

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-2-18 15:07
Isshin will help boost anybody you put him with. plus with new skills, isshin is basicly a demi-god ...

yesss that new skill

I dont even know what shininyoru's is, i dnt think it was that impressive. Like yamas, im not upgrading his skill either, it seems a bit worse

Although i guess i could get rid of gin if i did, even a -10 fury deduction is useful when i hav T1 and fury restriction..

author: Chihiro135 time: 2016-2-18 15:26:28

Suzuken replied at 2016-2-18 15:18
i don't even have to read anything other than the title
isshin.
Shini is expired now, useless.

haha suzuken, straight to point, i like that

Id be using isshn with yama, i thought theyd complement each other. Im evoing yama so hes got a pretty decent combo rate too now, i dont know if that would influence isshns combo rate in terms of how many assaulters get extra turns (ive always had a 2-2-1 so i dont know how combos work on a 1-3-1)

author: Suzuken time: 2016-2-18 15:29:59

Chihiro135 replied at 2016-2-18 23:26
haha suzuken, straight to point, i like that

Id be using isshn with yama, i thought theyd co ...

with 1-3-1 you basically attack 7 times in 1 round ((( only if you triggered combo on all assaulters)

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-2-18 15:31:11

Chihiro135 replied at 2016-2-18 15:20
yesss that new skill

I dont even know what shininyoru's is, i dnt think it was that impres ...

With a 1-3-1 using senbon, Kieske to T1 your team is a big no-no. Senbon hates supports, and kieske needs love to keep up with anyone. As for Assaulters, Isshin is a very strong choice in most line ups. Yama is also a powerhouse, but you will probably want another very strong assaulter to pull yama for in events, even tavern Kenpachi or Ikkaku will work here. Now, if you don't have a kido main, you have 4 partners to split your str stones between, and probably yama and isshin will take the lion's share, making me want to tell you to stick with Sajin till you get H Ichi because even with Senbon, his attack will blow like a drunk slut at a frat party. Understand that no mater what people tell you about Yama or Isshin, you have to put in the work, stones, evo, souls, ect to make them great. If you take yama, put decent equipment on him, moderate stones, you know, like just build him up like he's nothing special, he won't be anything special. But if you build him like a powerhouse, he will be just that

author: [email protected] time: 2016-2-18 20:11:02

I say no one. I used yoruichi for hollow soul solo battles until I got hyorin and combined him with starrk for both solo battles and group ones. You have senbon, so I figure and advise you to do the same. Yoruichi has no place in there now that you have yama also, so I think you shoul look to improve, save resourses and think possible end game.

As for isshin, I think with the new skill, even thought I'd take long, he's still a very imortant dude, and I gave up on the thought of him coming back in ubp, i'll leave you to your own devices with that one.

So if I'd have to pick def. Isshin,

author: [email protected] time: 2016-2-18 20:13:29

But I still feel that GG's are trying to compensate for the nerf in both stats growth and nerf on isshin with the new skill, and are sending a message to the spenders, value for money or whatever, that's why I think he wont be back in ubp...

author: gogeta654321 time: 2016-2-19 00:43:51

Chihiro135 replied at 2016-2-19 01:09
lol a friend gave me a top up as a present but i still think of myself as f2p, esp coz i still hav ...

yeah i am also looking my way up to isshin cuz my plans completely depends upon isshin cz if i get him.. i will have no choice but to use baraggan as supporter and suifeng as second assulter with her new skill..if i dont get him then i will have to use yama-jii instead while my tav gin will control assulters

. btw i also got senbon from that event and i think isshin is probably best for both pvp. and pve

author: gogeta654321 time: 2016-2-19 00:52:46

Chihiro135 replied at 2016-2-19 01:16
wow really? i guess im basing my opinions of shini yoru a lot on my experiences in csb, she would ...

yeah that invincibility sucks when they guy using it is your enemy

but as i said before.. one man army is of no use... you have to focus on your whole team plus if you use isshin with 25% speed buff(this is skill buff not attribute i am talking about) of senbon.. he can seal enemy's ass looters pretty easily where as you will have to completely depend on shini yoruichi if you got her so ya...

author: gogeta654321 time: 2016-2-19 00:53:17

Chihiro135 replied at 2016-2-19 01:16
wow really? i guess im basing my opinions of shini yoru a lot on my experiences in csb, she would ...

yeah that invincibility sucks when they guy using it is your enemy

author: gogeta654321 time: 2016-2-19 00:54:27

Suzuken replied at 2016-2-19 01:18
i don't even have to read anything other than the title
isshin.
Shini is expired now, useless.

btw isshin used to give 100% combo? is he fixed yet?

author: Chihiro135 time: 2016-2-19 03:19:48

gogeta654321 replied at 2016-2-19 00:54
btw isshin used to give 100% combo? is he fixed yet?

nah he's been fixed for a little while already from what I've read

author: gogeta654321 time: 2016-2-19 04:54:46

Chihiro135 replied at 2016-2-19 13:19
nah he's been fixed for a little while already from what I've read

well.. i thought if his new skill also got 100% combo... everyone's dead

author: Chihiro135 time: 2016-2-19 05:12:20

gogeta654321 replied at 2016-2-19 04:54
well.. i thought if his new skill also got 100% combo... everyone's dead

hahaha I wouldon't mind, need a team that can combat all the red partners out there

Although Isshin's new skill only gets activated at lvl 70, so it would take aaaaages to get him there seeing as buying 2 frags is over 2 mil silver :/

author: Chihiro135 time: 2016-2-19 05:25:41

[email protected] replied at 2016-2-18 20:13
But I still feel that GG's are trying to compensate for the nerf in both stats growth and nerf on is ...

lol funny story, I said to a friend that I noticed a pattern of SS class partners always being featured in UBP so I thought that Yama could show up based on that assumption...he laughed at me and told me I was bloody mad for thinking Yama would ever feature.

I only wish I could've seen the look on his face when Yama came and he had nowhere near enough vitality hehe

And Isshin has been before, they reset it so now I'm sure Isshin will come again. It's just a matter of waiting it out....

author: Chihiro135 time: 2016-2-19 05:32:36

gogeta654321 replied at 2016-2-19 00:53
yeah that invincibility sucks when they guy using it is your enemy but as i said before.. one ...

senbon is bloody awesome lol I just wish there was even a slight bump for support...at least the fortify options increase speed for whole team, so that's ok, but still...that's gonna be a lot of agility stones for Kisuke :/

author: iz4n4minok4mi time: 2016-2-19 06:08:39

Isshin all the way even though he is nerfed to hell. It is pretty funny how instead of unnerfing him when they did the same with tensa to some extent etc they rather use a feature which was supposed to greatly improve partners and add some diversity to their skill and they use it to get isshin closer to what he was supposed to be originally. I still wonder if the bonus skills got adjusted on CN as well or we got a super short end of a stick again because -25% defense and 20% combo and dmg rate instead of -70% defense and 50% combo and dmg rate is simply huge nerf again.
Shini yoruichi was really good and fun back in the day, like a year back especially if you got lucky and she hit both supports with her skill but these days with all those overpowered red partners and some better yellow ones and especially over-powered supports she has no place in the team anymore because she is basically useless in pvp now and she is no better in pve.. Isshin is nothing special with his nerf and all + fixed combo but he still has some use both in pvp and pve.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-2-19 06:18:59

Chihiro135 replied at 2016-2-19 11:25
lol funny story, I said to a friend that I noticed a pattern of SS class partners always being fea ...

Well yeah, that was a fair assumption, his loss for thinking different i agree on that, but you can't tell me that you don't think that isshin is a diff. story then yama

And GG's also did a plot twist, it still didn't reset, they just released some zans and partners for the second time. There's still some SS epartners that haven't been released even once like sexy and cute, as for the new partners, I'd day kenpachi unohana, even more of a chance then isshin coming back if you ask me

author: Suzuken time: 2016-2-19 06:31:55

gogeta654321 replied at 2016-2-19 08:54
btw isshin used to give 100% combo? is he fixed yet?

Yeah now he works as he was supposed to

author: gogeta654321 time: 2016-2-19 06:33:25

Chihiro135 replied at 2016-2-19 15:32
senbon is bloody awesome lol I just wish there was even a slight bump for support...at least the f ...

yeah well... it still doesnt help much cuz supporters on higher lvs are supposed to be faster and now most of red partners including tenjiro senju and hiki are fast so the only thing you can do is to get some supporter who doesnt help much but does aoe attack like baraggan but since you have Tone(sorry keyboard's one button is not working) kisuke... it might be a problem

author: Chihiro135 time: 2016-2-19 08:47:34

gogeta654321 replied at 2016-2-19 06:33
yeah well... it still doesnt help much cuz supporters on higher lvs are supposed to be faster and ...

yea, hence why I'm still using Kazeshini mainly for now..

We just went full circle from your first question haha

author: [email protected] time: 2016-2-19 14:19:14

Chihiro135 replied at 2016-2-18 15:16
wow really? i guess im basing my opinions of shini yoru a lot on my experiences in csb, she would ...

if you can get isshin then you should be able to get B renji or kensei if so go for them

author: tytheboy time: 2016-2-20 07:52:14

that comborate is far better in pvp especially if you ad on the void he gives
isshin with assisted t1 and high speedwill could become a real beast ;-)

author: bloodyravens time: 2016-2-20 15:53:59

ISSHIN exclusive is WAAAAYYY EPIC

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2016-2-20 23:22:13

Isshin in comparison to Shini Yoru, Isshin takes it in every way possible, honestly ^^

I guess her last mod makes it debatable, but honestly, I don't think anyone wants to reach that or is going to when you could use that time to upgrade Isshin xD

author: bwg2469 time: 2016-2-21 03:17:43

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2016-2-20 20:22
Isshin in comparison to Shini Yoru, Isshin takes it in every way possible, honestly ^^

I guess h ...

https://www.facebook.com/itstimetostopok/videos/1761077074122312/

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2016-2-21 17:04:18

bwg2469 replied at 2016-2-21 08:17
https://www.facebook.com/itstimetostopok/videos/1761077074122312/

yus

the vid doesn't load

fek you

author: shadarlo time: 2016-2-23 00:13:39

I wouldn't pick either in your situation. If you can afford Isshin you should instead get either B.Renji or one of the Zero squad partners. Isshin is 10k gold and they are 12k yet infinitely better.

author: Chihiro135 time: 2016-2-23 02:46:14

bloodyravens replied at 2016-2-20 15:53
ISSHIN exclusive is WAAAAYYY EPIC

haha yes I know! but it's just gonna take a damn long time to reach it XD only activates lvl 70

author: Chihiro135 time: 2016-2-23 02:49:47

shadarlo replied at 2016-2-23 00:13
I wouldn't pick either in your situation. If you can afford Isshin you should instead get either B. ...

I can't really afford anyone lol otherwise I would go for zero squad

I'm hoping that they'll pitch up in UBP at some point again, I just want to have made my decision in advance

author: Suzuken time: 2016-2-23 09:30:30

bwg2469 replied at 2016-2-21 11:17
https://www.facebook.com/itstimetostopok/videos/1761077074122312/

Is that someone's video rage quit ? I can get that from the title at least
...... Anyway it doesn't work dammit

author: shadarlo time: 2016-2-23 11:12:23

Chihiro135 replied at 2016-2-23 02:49
I can't really afford anyone lol otherwise I would go for zero squad

I'm hoping that they'll ...

*sigh*

People waiting for UBP to get partners that are already out-dated now (which isshin is) make me sad.

author: Chihiro135 time: 2016-2-23 12:41:40

shadarlo replied at 2016-2-23 11:12
*sigh*

People waiting for UBP to get partners that are already out-dated now (which isshin is) ma ...

well theyre hardly likely to put red partners in ubp so its all us poor people can hope for...

Apologies for making you sad, i know the economic crisis affecting my country is hardly a funny topic but hey, things are what they are

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