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author: SosaRey time: 2016-2-27 15:58:55 Title: Help!kirinji or shini uruhara pve

Edited by SosaRey at 2016-2-27 16:00

I currently use kisuke and shinigami uruhara for pve for supports since  shinigami uruhara skills again and again, if he or kisuke crits.  Though due to b.rukia now appearing, I'm thinking of switching to kirinji.  HIs stats are way higher than shini uruhara, wis stats that is, plus his bond with b.rukia would give him such high damage.  But since I"m not good with numbers calculating I"d like opinion from somebody who's good crunching the numbers.

My shinigami uruhara basically skills every turn, I have his crit around 80% and if he doesn't then with luck kisuke crits and he skills.  So basically that's 170% every round.  Kirinji does 200% damage every other round but with his high wis stats, way much higher than shini uruhara adding to let's say 7% damage boost from b.rukia, bond, if I do get her, his damage could be near or higher though I'm not sure.

So I'm not sure who would be better for pve.  Any thoughts?

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2016-2-27 16:10:27

Edited by AssassinwithRPG at 2016-2-27 21:11

Simple calculation
Shini urahara 170% x 6 = 1020% over 6 rounds.

Kirinji + kiske 200% first round, 100%(basic attack) next round 200% again. 500% over 3 rounds 1000% over 6 rounds.

Because of the stat diffrence kiriji would do more damage just with this calculation, but he also has chance to burn so yeah, he'll do a hell more.

Discalimer
I did not consider extra rounds
Other damage rate buffs
Other fury gens
Level diffrence

Over all its just a simple comparisent.

author: SosaRey time: 2016-2-27 16:15:27

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-2-27 16:10
Simple calculation
Shini urahara 170% x 6 = 1020% over 6 rounds.

I forgot to mention, since shini uruhara can skill again and again if he crits, I put the crit enchant on him so his damage would increase. As for level difference, it's like a 12 level difference been shini uruhara the higher leveled.

If kirinji's damage is higher as you say overall then I might have to get b.rukia for him.

author: NNatsu time: 2016-2-27 16:15:58

Kirinji IMO.

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2016-2-27 16:17:19

SosaRey replied at 2016-2-27 21:15
I forgot to mention, since shini uruhara can skill again and again if he crits, I put the crit enc ...

Even without b.rukia he should do hell more, his mods(attack increase) and also random 100% burn play a big role.

author: SosaRey time: 2016-2-27 16:21:17

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-2-27 16:17
Even without b.rukia he should do hell more, his mods(attack increase) and also random 100% burn ...

So burn affects ryoka/ES? I didn't know that.

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2016-2-27 16:23:24

SosaRey replied at 2016-2-27 21:21
So burn affects ryoka/ES? I didn't know that.

Yep, if I'm correct at least. It's not a forbidding effect so it should. (Definitely works in Ultimate Ninja but not 100% sure here) Only DOT that doesn't work on ES and ryoka would be multitude or what ever as it does percentage of HP damage which would be OP.

author: SosaRey time: 2016-2-27 16:24:21

NNatsu replied at 2016-2-27 16:15
Kirinji IMO.

I know that with evo, kirinji would clearly be the winner but unfortunately I can't do evo on him now. I got too many partners before him evoing. I thought with the skilling every round plus crit enchant he'd still do more but I guess you might be right.

author: NNatsu time: 2016-2-27 16:31:07

SosaRey replied at 2016-2-27 16:24
I know that with evo, kirinji would clearly be the winner but unfortunately I can't do evo on him ...

I don't think it'll be too much of a damage difference to matter too much, but Kirinji is the better partner for sure.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-2-27 16:33:51

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-2-27 16:23
Yep, if I'm correct at least. It's not a forbidding effect so it should. (Definitely works in Ulti ...

burn works... i used my yama at the end when i couldn't one shot again.
Anyway, the burn works. well for yama it didn't do much around 26,000 - 30,000 dmg.
was expected an actually 25% of total health thou.
Anyway, kirinji should do monstrously well.

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2016-2-27 16:41:07

[email protected] replied at 2016-2-27 21:33
burn works... i used my yama at the end when i couldn't one shot again.
Anyway, the burn works. we ...

Yeah, very good, questioned that a bit.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-2-27 16:52:24

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-2-27 16:41
Yeah, very good, questioned that a bit.

guess they are some skills that works on gamebots.
like isshin skill works on all gamebots idk why.
i remember using isshin once to clear a particular stages(rented ofcuz.)
nvm idk why am complaing. nvm.

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2016-2-27 16:58:28

[email protected] replied at 2016-2-27 21:52
guess they are some skills that works on gamebots.
like isshin skill works on all gamebots idk why ...

Forbid skills should work on most PVE things except named ones like gin for example in hollow maps. Or ryoka and ES. Ofc some PVE monsters are just immune to everything.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-2-27 17:02:05

Edited by [email protected] at 2016-2-27 18:19

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-2-27 16:58
Forbid skills should work on most PVE things except named ones like gin for example in hollow maps ...

well that why am working towards kyoka sugetsu aizen so i can get his sweet sweet stun.
i wonder if i can get his stun up to 100%.
I know how i get it to 50%, did the calculation a while back but not sure i can get it any higher.

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2016-2-27 17:33:45

[email protected] replied at 2016-2-27 22:02
well that why am working towards kyoka sugetsu aizen so i can get his sweet sweet stone.
i wonder ...

You should be happy with 50%, you really should be cool with that.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-2-27 18:23:06

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-2-27 17:33
You should be happy with 50%, you really should be cool with that.

hmmmmmm i guess so.
him compared with hme aizen(non upgrade/ :am nt vip 6 n dnt like him that way).
who is beta, i know stat wise its csb aizen but skill wise hme aizen plus is new skill OP!
am thinking of getting both but can only t1 one.
so which do u think should get t1.

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2016-2-27 18:53:05

[email protected] replied at 2016-2-27 23:23
hmmmmmm i guess so.
him compared with hme aizen(non upgrade/ :am nt vip 6 n dnt like him that way) ...

Prob csb one cos of fury deduction. A lot of people run T1 and fury restriction from shin aizen ain't gonna solve that, although any assaulter based formation, shin aizen would be probably better.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-2-28 19:05:39

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-2-27 18:53
Prob csb one cos of fury deduction. A lot of people run T1 and fury restriction from shin aizen ai ...

hmmm... thanks bro.

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