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author: joninhas97    time: 2016-3-16 12:48:35     Title: Yama vs CSB Bya

Just wanted to know you're opinion on those 2 char's and why
author: Asian123    time: 2016-3-16 13:14:14

Skill-wise, Yamamoto is better.
When speaking of the overall Stats OR Agility, Hakuteiken Byakuya is better.
author: Gurr    time: 2016-3-16 13:40:20

Base stats is simply permanent bonus to overall stats, and it doesn't affect growth in any way so in big lvls better growth rate and %-bonuses beat base stats.
author: shadarlo    time: 2016-3-16 13:50:33

Neither partner is fast enough to compete with Zero Squad, which every strong player will have... so really the only purpose of either partner is to compete with the non-VIP players or as combo with a single zero squad partner.

As a combo with say, Hiki, Yama is by far the better choice as he should hit harder and has a far better skill.

As for beating nonVIP.... I'd personally still prefer Yama as picking him means you only sacrifice 4 lvl 10 stones or 1000 frags or cute.  None are life or death.  But picking Byak means sacrificing Shura... which for a non-VIP is insanity.  Shura is a beast of all beasts for PvE which is what non-VIP's need help in to have any chance of competing.  Shura is the non-VIP players best partner they can get imo.
author: Lucky__Black    time: 2016-3-16 13:53:07

Gurr replied at 2016-3-16 13:40
Base stats is simply permanent bonus to overall stats, and it doesn't affect growth in any way so in ...

Nice, thanks for that info.
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2016-3-16 14:58:59

Looking at skills by itself. don't necessarily think Yama's skill is better, he does the same as CSB Byakuya but with lower growth rates on the skill, whilst also having a pretty much useless ignite at 25% (Res Ulq can hit harder than this).

Laceration on enemies isn't too great unless enemies have a healer ofc

Since they are both PVP, Byakuya offers better overall with having the outcome of better stats, a higher damaging skill, being faster so he's actually gonna hit the skill

And most important of all, he decreases all enemies speed by 10% when he hits! So extremely good and never bad/useless in PVP, unlike 2 of Yama's skill attributes ^^
author: joninhas97    time: 2016-3-16 19:22:50

With this team Support : Hiki Pure T1 .. Kisuke T1 ... Assaulters : Main and Yama or Bya T1 .. VG.. Noza
author: Devvoke2    time: 2016-3-16 19:35:41

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author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-3-16 20:00:42

shadarlo replied at 2016-3-16 13:50
Neither partner is fast enough to compete with Zero Squad, which every strong player will have... so ...

lol you say that but my yama is faster than some ppl who have zero division partners
#yama ftw

author: Asian123    time: 2016-3-17 07:15:50

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-3-17 06:00
lol you say that but my yama is faster than some ppl who have zero division partners
#yama ftw

Hakuteiken Byakuya's faster than Yamamoto so HB for the win!
author: shadarlo    time: 2016-3-17 10:00:40

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-3-16 20:00
lol you say that but my yama is faster than some ppl who have zero division partners
#yama ftw

Comparing your insanely geeked out Yama to a crappy person's Zero squad is a bad comparison.  You'd beat that person regardless.

But you'll never compete on speed with anyone even remotely competent who has a zero squad with your yama.
author: asunayuki    time: 2016-3-17 10:03:18

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2016-3-16 21:58
Looking at skills by itself. don't necessarily think Yama's skill is better, he does the same as CSB ...

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author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-3-17 13:40:22

shadarlo replied at 2016-3-17 10:00
Comparing your insanely geeked out Yama to a crappy person's Zero squad is a bad comparison.  You' ...

lol is insanely geeked out supposed to be an insult
and thiers are actually pretty decent for their mod and level
author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-3-17 13:41:10

Asian123 replied at 2016-3-17 07:15
Hakuteiken Byakuya's faster than Yamamoto so HB for the win!

lol that's true
author: shadarlo    time: 2016-3-17 13:46:14

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-3-17 13:40
lol is insanely geeked out supposed to be an insult
and thiers are actually pretty decent for thei ...

Geeked out = Maxed out.

No Yama should be anywhere close to any Zero squad unless it's like a 3 mill BP person compared to a 1.5 mil BP person.  

Yama simply has horrid speed and if you had him at 400k spd you'd have Kiri at 600k spd or there abouts.
author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-3-17 13:52:06

shadarlo replied at 2016-3-17 13:46
Geeked out = Maxed out.

No Yama should be anywhere close to any Zero squad unless it's like a 3 m ...

lol I see well that's not how it is on my server but no one has speed like that on my server yet except mages
everyone else is around 100K-200K
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author: shadarlo    time: 2016-3-17 14:45:13

Edited by shadarlo at 2016-3-17 14:48
Shadow49999 replied at 2016-3-17 13:52
lol I see well that's not how it is on my server but no one has speed like that on my server yet e ...

You seem to be missing the point.

If you have 80k spd on Yama Kiri would have 100-110k spd.

Whatever spd yama has, kiri would have dramatically more all else equal.

And whoever goes first has the best chance to win, so picking a slow partner as your best partner is a good way to lose every fight as you advance through the game.
When I was at 1 mil BP I thought just like you did... I am doing really well with Sexy Yoru as my fastest partner.  I beat most everyone, people are just being nit-picky about speed because they're uber high end players.  Then I got to 1.5 mil bp and I started losing more and more fights with Sexy as my fastest.... by 2 mil BP I had to switch over to Kiri as my fastest.  Now at 3 mil BP it's 100% about who goes first.  If I go first I can beat people 1 mil bp stronger than me.  But I lose to a guildy who is 600k bp lower because he has Hiki and some lvl 12 stones and a lvl 10 tier 11 agi hogu making her 40-50k spd faster than me.  If I get 2-3 more stones and my Gin mod soul I might just catch him then i'll beat him almost always again.

You need to accept that no matter how much you think you can find ways to win without max speed, you won't be able to just a little ways down the line.  So the more time you waste not maxing out agi/spd now, the further behind you'll be when you finally accept how important it is.

author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-3-17 15:45:13

shadarlo replied at 2016-3-17 14:45
You seem to be missing the point.

If you have 80k spd on Yama Kiri would have 100-110k spd.

yeah lol I was always told speed is important and right now my yamas my fastest because I have no partners who have better speed then him
I'm putting as much speed as I can on him
and I'm trying to get the gin mod soul too
I'm done with goku and my batman is level 24/80 so itll take me awhile
how far are you?
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2016-3-17 15:46:37

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-3-17 15:45
yeah lol I was always told speed is important and right now my yamas my fastest because I have no  ...

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author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-3-17 15:49:57

SeiryuSky replied at 2016-3-17 15:46
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author: SeiryuSky    time: 2016-3-17 15:50:34

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-3-17 15:49
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author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-3-17 15:51:42

SeiryuSky replied at 2016-3-17 15:50
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author: SeiryuSky    time: 2016-3-17 15:53:38

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author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-3-17 15:55:35

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author: SeiryuSky    time: 2016-3-17 15:57:55

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-3-17 15:55

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author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2016-3-17 16:08:42

asunayuki replied at 2016-3-17 15:03
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