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author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 11:38:10     Title: Res Ulquiorra vs Yama?

Edited by [email protected] at 2016-5-25 12:55

I have Shin ulquiorra and have 536 out of 900 fragments for res Ulq.
Now, i am also at 9900 out of 10.000 in soul cultivation, this is my 3rd time activating it^^
I have gotten 1 lvl 12 and 4 lvl 10 stones with the 2 other tries.

What is your opinion guys?
In my opinion, the extra damage rate over yama is worth it, but what are your opinions?
EDIT:
Yamamoto is beast

Also, for anyone having the same issue, get Yamamoto, as ulq does not have anything in bond and yama does
(It makes a big difference)

author: polarisx7    time: 2016-4-21 11:53:12

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author: alicantibet    time: 2016-4-21 11:54:33

i would pick for Yama,when is far to get ress.ulqu ,so Yama win
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 11:56:05

polarisx7 replied at 2016-4-21 17:53
Yama gets 21.35% extra dmg rate from evo and 12% dmg from talent.

Res Ulq's skills damage rate is 170% to all enemies, which is why i can't decide between the two^^

But i guess if you add 33,35% to 150% it is a bit higher on yama
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 12:12:08

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author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-4-21 12:19:25

[email protected] replied at 2016-4-21 11:56
Res Ulq's skills damage rate is 170% to all enemies, which is why i can't decide between the two^^ ...

Yama's got better strength, is faster, and has other status effects which are very good too...  I've recently had a similar debate with myself, and my answer was between Yama and CSB Byaukua, but being that i really want CSB Kenny, yama will have to do
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 12:24:13

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-21 18:19
Yama's got better strength, is faster, and has other status effects which are very good too...  I' ...

Ok, ty^^
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-4-21 12:29:01

[email protected] replied at 2016-4-21 12:24
Ok, ty^^

one exception...  if you already have high mod and evo and other stuff on Ulq...  That may play a role on who to choose too   end game they are similar to each other and really not terribly different IMO   Ulquorria seems to have better evo and a slightly better skill, but yama has slightly better stats and better mods IMO
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 12:32:19

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-21 18:29
one exception...  if you already have high mod and evo and other stuff on Ulq...  That may play a  ...

I already got Yama now, so i am just going to go for him^^

0 Mods and only lvl 4 evo
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-4-21 12:33:41

[email protected] replied at 2016-4-21 12:32
I already got Yama now, so i am just going to go for him^^

0 Mods and only lvl 4 evo

oh, not much lost there, lol  good job..  looking to get yama myself...  have a convoluted plan lol  will post screenshots of it when I get it working right
author: Unholyknight    time: 2016-4-21 12:33:46

just to also add on to this I would go with Yama over Res Ulquiorra since you can cover more ground with Yama then you can with Res. Ulquiorra, but really both have there strength and weaknesses but it really how you want to build your end game team and Yama fit better with mines then Res Ulquiorra did. if your VIP 5 or above I would still get Res Ulquiorra for his bond with Nozarashi Kenpachi
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 12:39:20

Unholyknight replied at 2016-4-21 18:33
just to also add on to this I would go with Yama over Res Ulquiorra since you can cover more ground  ...

Ok, ty
(I am VIP 6, very close to vip 7 btw^^ )
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 12:39:46

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-21 18:33
oh, not much lost there, lol  good job..  looking to get yama myself...  have a convoluted plan lo ...

Looking forward to it
author: Unholyknight    time: 2016-4-21 12:41:31

[email protected] replied at 2016-4-21 11:39
Ok, ty
(I am VIP 6, very close to vip 7 btw^^ )

yeah I'm VIP 5 and working on getting Nozarashi right now
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 12:43:17

Unholyknight replied at 2016-4-21 18:41
yeah I'm VIP 5 and working on getting Nozarashi right now

Nice















author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 12:43:35

Unholyknight replied at 2016-4-21 18:41
yeah I'm VIP 5 and working on getting Nozarashi right now

Nice















author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 13:04:54

ulqui damage rate can 190% above, and his burn can deal 270k
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 13:12:33


author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 15:01:18

Edited by [email protected] at 2016-4-21 21:05
MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-21 18:33
oh, not much lost there, lol  good job..  looking to get yama myself...  have a convoluted plan lo ...


Pretty beast^^
Only lvl 80 and yet he's this strong
FYI, i got 4 mods on him bcs i inherited kirinji who was mod 5 xD
2300 mod fragments for 500 gold!
Oh and i changed nothing in comparison to the first and this picture, i have no clue how, but i just got a bunch of bp after doing ryoka?



author: kosmik    time: 2016-4-21 15:10:12

Edited by kosmik at 2016-4-21 15:11

Answered this a long time ago, the only thing yama has over uliq really is lacerate, doesn't help in ES at all.  Uliq has a 50% burn opposed to yama's 25%.  Uliq is also a crit monster, yama does have a slightly higher attack rate, don't think that makes up for 40% extra crit damage though.  GR's are close enough where it doesn't matter.  The main thing is that extra 25% burn damage (adds up)  + a few other things, but seriously, res. Uliq is soooo underrated, I used him forever, he hits like all hell.

I see the pics after I answered, I'm crying a little now.  
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-4-21 15:11:21

[email protected] replied at 2016-4-21 13:04
ulqui damage rate can 190% above, and his burn can deal 270k

are you a crackhead?   Res ulquorria has a damage rate of 170%, with a decent burn attached...  and a 270k burn damage...  oooo   so impressed...   they have ulqu that can burn over 1M damage i'm sure...  and so can yama, lol
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-4-21 15:12:50

[email protected] replied at 2016-4-21 15:01
Pretty beast^^
Only lvl 80 and yet he's this strong
FYI, i got 4 mods on him bcs i inherited ki ...

must have been that level?  but yeah.  when i get mine i'm going to pull my stuff off my isshin and put that on him, lol   he's gonna be a monster...  in fact, i may just rent to own him...   $10/week...  not terrible
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 15:51:21

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-21 21:12
must have been that level?  but yeah.  when i get mine i'm going to pull my stuff off my isshin an ...

True that, then you got the lvl down already
^^

FFS i FORGOT TO RENT HIM!
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 15:52:53

kosmik replied at 2016-4-21 21:10
Answered this a long time ago, the only thing yama has over uliq really is lacerate, doesn't help in ...

Haha xD


author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 17:02:13

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-21 21:12
must have been that level?  but yeah.  when i get mine i'm going to pull my stuff off my isshin an ...

as well i know ur dumb )) u dont know how to manage char, gg wont put yama at free stuff bcos its weak ))
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-4-21 17:21:40

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2016-4-21 17:27
[email protected] replied at 2016-4-21 17:02
as well i know ur dumb )) u dont know how to manage char, gg wont put yama at free stuff bcos its  ...
edited because i just relized who this tool is...

look,  I called you a crackhead because you made a fool statement of "Ulqu has over 190% damage rate, and his burn can deal 270k damage"  or something close to that...  his burn is directly linked to his attack (50% i believe, and that's the # i'm using for my quick math), so if he normaly hits for 600k damage, he burns for 300k...  which proves my point...  your only hitting for what? 550kish damage?   that's cute

rest of this is original letter

???  what?  you come attack me because i'm not fucked up about dropping a little cash on a game when i don't really need to? really? Okay,  we can go there just for a second...

First off...  your sentence structure make me have to read it 3 times to believe i could understand what your 2nd grade ass is trying to tell me...  so next time you call someone dumb, maybe you should write it like someone that isn't,  Okay?  Thanks!!
Second off...  Yama is not weak, i never said yama was weak, and if your saying he is weak...  well revert to point one,  Okay?  Thanks!!
Third... and I'm gonna stop here so you don't rage the fuck out too bad and just have a heart attack and die...  How can you ever imagine to tell me that I don't know how to manage a character because i want to add an AOE assaulter to my front row, and stack him up so i can one round this one guy in my server that just picked up hikifune, and i have to kill her before she skills, and my current big 3 just aren't consistent enough for me, so i'm gonna use my tenjiro to further buff up my Shinso, and put in yama instead of my Soph (see, when your fighting the people i am, after round 1, the fight is decided, and it's all about the T1, so even if your vanguard is alive and kicking, if everyone else is dead, tough shit) so i can get a solid AOE twice in the first round, then my Cute Orihime will go, less for her damage, but more to boost up my front 3, who all now have roughly 90% block rate, so my Isshin (who loves to destroy assaulters BTW) and my main, along with Yama are there to counter attack every attack that lands.  My lack of ability to manage a character must be why i'm level 109 surrounded by people in my arena that start at level 120?  Yeah,  I go between rank 4 and 5 in arena, in a competitive server (not the hardest in my CSB, but not a cake walk by any means) with most in the top 8 VIP9 or more (with Ame, much more), and here I am, a weeping angel among mere men, level 12+ levels lower than them, spending half as much as them (if they are just barely into VIP9, as i'm barely into VIP8) crushing several of their hopes and dreams...

Yeah, I'm a noob and an idiot...  keep telling yourself that...   whatever helps you sleep at night bro

author: Lelouch71    time: 2016-4-21 17:39:02

I'm an Ulquiorra fanboy,yeah Yamamoto is stronger but Ulquiorra's skill is worth to see :3
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 17:48:27

Lelouch71 replied at 2016-4-21 23:39
I'm an Ulquiorra fanboy,yeah Yamamoto is stronger but Ulquiorra's skill is worth to see :3

Haha

Well, enjoy this then.Yessssss, he has 98.5% Crit-rate xD
Yamamoto's skill:


author: [email protected]    time: 2016-4-21 17:49:44

550k? are u morron or what?? since when my ulqui hit 550k haha u such a morron, my ulqui deal 1.5m damage thats why burn around 270 above.. stack?? i never play stack since gogames open server balanced all the way, from none hp buff 100% then hp buff 100% change again 60-70 depend lvl and rei.

??? my last topup september 2014...never topup again, i just play 4 fun
author: Lelouch71    time: 2016-4-21 17:50:46

[email protected] replied at 2016-4-21 17:48
Haha

Well, enjoy this then.Yessssss, he has 98.5% Crit-rate xD

Yeah i have Yama-jii too,his skill is cool but dayum,Ulq skill animation is so cool xD
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-4-21 18:25:07

[email protected] replied at 2016-4-21 17:49
550k? are u morron or what?? since when my ulqui hit 550k haha u such a morron, my ulqui deal 1.5m d ...

a 50% burn would be 50% of original damage (unless i'm mistaken about that)...  oh,  your talking crit damage possibly?
author: kosmik    time: 2016-4-21 19:17:14

Edited by kosmik at 2016-4-21 19:19
MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-21 18:25
a 50% burn would be 50% of original damage (unless i'm mistaken about that)...  oh,  your talking  ...


I'm assuming you own both yes?  How much fury does yama regen?
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-4-21 19:19:32

kosmik replied at 2016-4-21 19:17
I'm assuming you own both yes?

neither, lol  just been looking at stats and seeing pics of stacked up ones
author: kosmik    time: 2016-4-21 19:20:35

Edited by kosmik at 2016-4-21 19:23
MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-21 19:19
neither, lol  just been looking at stats and seeing pics of stacked up ones


ahhh, ok; was just curious.  If mine still had mod's I'd post it for the lolz even tho I don't really have a suit fitted for him atm.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-4-21 19:23:08

kosmik replied at 2016-4-21 19:20
ahhh, ok; was just curious.

had been debating between him, yama, and wings very recently.   BTW, a 50% burn is 50% of the original damage of the attack, right?
author: kosmik    time: 2016-4-21 19:24:22

Edited by kosmik at 2016-4-21 19:30
MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-21 19:23
had been debating between him, yama, and wings very recently.   BTW, a 50% burn is 50% of the orig ...


50% of the dmg done on the atk if I see it right because it does/will vary.  And adds up a good bit during longer ES or ryok fights

in main/secondary tanks gear lmao.  Add some speed his bp would actually be a good bit higher.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-4-21 19:51:16

kosmik replied at 2016-4-21 19:24
50% of the dmg done on the atk if I see it right because it does/will vary.  And adds up a good bi ...

compared to isshin, do you know how fast he is?
BTW, good looking Ulquorria,  this is my Isshin,[attach]14082[/attach]

author: kosmik    time: 2016-4-22 00:49:02

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-21 19:51
compared to isshin, do you know how fast he is?
BTW, good looking Ulquorria,  this is my Isshin,
...

as fast as I could get him, only in a 110 S forged suit that isn't even fully lvled
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-4-22 07:14:52

kosmik replied at 2016-4-22 00:49
as fast as I could get him, only in a 110 S forged suit that isn't even fully lvled

yeah,  i assume you have much better stones and treasures than i do...   and i also am speeding up a Shinso at the same time...  Ylquorria is nifty and all...  i need someone a little faster IMO  but thank you very much for the pics...  your ulquorria is a monster for sure
author: jumperu    time: 2016-5-11 13:50:25

time wise i have to say yama is faster to obtain, but if u can fully mod res ulq im quite sure he can outshine yama, 25% extra for the burn dmg from the overall dmg + the mods are damn insane, this coming from a res ulq user and my res ulq aint even that beefed  https://snag.gy/Rlg2cG.jpg
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-5-11 17:19:53

Edited by [email protected] at 2016-5-11 23:21
jumperu replied at 2016-5-11 19:50
time wise i have to say yama is faster to obtain, but if u can fully mod res ulq im quite sure he ca ...

Well, little late for that^^

Im like 2 to 4 days from getting EVO lvl 9, then i can pure t1 him xD

author: Devvoke2    time: 2016-5-21 17:35:17

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author: [email protected]    time: 2016-5-21 20:38:33

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-5-21 23:35
very hard choice I would say could use them in unison but it wouldn't pay off that much better to ch ...

Well, i chose a while ago and it worked out well^^


Working on his pure t1(IM LITERALLY 3 FURY FROM IT!!    )
When i get him pure, then imma start stacking him a bit, more speed and dmg^^
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author: [email protected]    time: 2016-5-25 06:35:09

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-5-22 04:37
yeah me too getting fury is hard as hell
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I topped up 12k and got him to t1 yesterday^^   xD


author: undine    time: 2016-5-25 06:38:42

[email protected] replied at 2016-5-25 06:35
I topped up 12k and got him to t1 yesterday^^   xD

very noob, pls uninstall


p.s i reported you
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-5-25 06:46:41

undine replied at 2016-5-25 12:38
very noob, pls uninstall

<3




btw, wut for? O.O   xD






author: undine    time: 2016-5-25 07:40:40

Edited by undine at 2016-5-25 07:44
[email protected] replied at 2016-5-25 06:46

Only 12k, so noob. Check out my husband :
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-5-25 07:43:06

undine replied at 2016-5-25 13:40
Only 12k, so noob. Check out my husband :

   wp  xD
author: undine    time: 2016-5-25 07:44:32

[email protected] replied at 2016-5-25 07:43
wp  xD

I dont get it :O
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-5-25 07:46:43

undine replied at 2016-5-25 13:44
I dont get it :O

Get wut? O.O
author: Devvoke2    time: 2016-5-25 08:53:27

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author: warlock8    time: 2016-5-25 09:11:39

Res Ulquiorra new skill + kirinji = profit? no one has caos resistance right?
author: warlock8    time: 2016-5-25 09:20:57

I also like random hits, imagine 4 enemy got caos. More amusing than watching them burn
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-5-25 12:08:58

warlock8 replied at 2016-5-25 15:20
I also like random hits, imagine 4 enemy got caos. More amusing than watching them burn

More amusing, sure^^

But tactictically apeaking, he is just so random that if evenly matched, you will only win 50% of the time :p

That is very much his disadvantage, he is too random ^^
author: Devvoke2    time: 2016-5-26 10:59:02

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author: warlock8    time: 2016-5-26 11:19:43

nice one. can you tell me how often he crit fury himself? It would be nice if you can make him everyturn.
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-5-26 13:03:03

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-5-26 16:59
eat your heart out

not even his final form

Nice ^^



author: kosmik    time: 2016-5-26 13:15:31

Cute.  And he'll crit fury regen when....his ability crits and gives back fury, that's how it works; no way to make him go off every round without a lot of fury builders.
author: Devvoke2    time: 2016-5-26 16:14:04

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author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-7-10 00:33:45

kosmik replied at 2016-5-26 13:15
Cute.  And he'll crit fury regen when....his ability crits and gives back fury, that's how it works; ...

I don't know everytime my yama crits he gets a fury crit
author: kosmik    time: 2016-7-10 05:18:56

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-7-10 00:33
I don't know everytime my yama crits he gets a fury crit


response was about uliq regening fury off a crit, not do they crit off a fury attack (should tho).

too tired to deal with the other comment pointed my way.  counter stones, unless your talking about pve only, don't care if you can break the 90% cap, gratz gives a 12% chance or whatever the # is, but it sure as fuck isn't 100%.
author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-7-10 05:34:37

kosmik replied at 2016-7-10 05:18
response was about uliq regening fury off a crit, not do they crit off a fury attack (should tho). ...

lol oh meh nigga that makes sense
author: xInfiniteBleach    time: 2016-11-6 19:59:46

Edited by xInfiniteBleach at 2016-11-6 20:01

Isnt Yamamoto way beter in PvP & Partways in PvE Like as a New Player i think i would rather pref Yamamoto than Ulquiorra but that might be personally preference even tho i think Yamamoto has beter stats than Ulquiorra . Pure on the Basic Stats i dont know the exact stats for Yamamoto Cause i am gonna get him next month . but isnt his Base Stuff Higher Than Ulqui?
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-11-9 06:14:25

xInfiniteBleach replied at 2016-11-7 01:59
Isnt Yamamoto way beter in PvP & Partways in PvE Like as a New Player i think i would rather pref Ya ...

Yes, his base stats are higher.
Res skill does more dmg but its alot easier to get yama as well, i would say just go for him




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