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author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-17 05:42:23 Title: dont kill me for this plz

there have been alot of talk about god vg's lately

so i wonderd what would be the best way to make a vg good (namely starrk fince im f2p) i know how most people say low vip's should go for h.ichi but i don want that

so any good tips on how to make a starrk become a pain in the ass for my enemies?
i am aware of my need for breakdefence and crit in my case going to work on my dmg of cource but anything i should think of zan/other partners thet work well with him etc? thx for your help in advance

author: [email protected] time: 2016-5-17 06:04:56

Edited by [email protected] at 2016-5-17 12:06

M8, starrk is a fine vg, hollowed ichigo is just easier to build on especially if you are f2p.
Now about your stones, you need both HP and Block and dodge is also good to have, although not necessary, you cant have a vg without stamina and you cant have a vg without block unless you are 100% offensive and that only works if you have a red vg that just kills all in 1 hit...

Now, starrk is an incredibly weak vg, he can get killed so easily bcs he has 0 defensive ability, which is why you need to build him properly
Imo you dont need Brk def as much as you need Crit, block and stamina as they are more important.

To get his defence issues out of the way, you need hyorinmaru, so be prepared to get him, otherwise use Tengen myo'o and stack the crap out of starrk, start saving vit right now and spend it on both getting hyorin next time he is in ubp and also on seireitei attack for high lvl stones ^^

Starrk is a puny vg that is really hard to set up, ill say good luck to you in setting him up and hf dying alot in hueco mundo bcs your vg isn't tanky enough <3

author: Glowing time: 2016-5-17 06:30:48

Sorry to say this but... you're not gonna build a strong VG as f2p. I mean, sure you can try but it's never going to be as strong as just getting Aizen/Gin/CSB Partners/Shinso(free if you have the patience). The best you can do I guess is try to get Hyorin/Senbon (Tengen works, but not very effective tbh) from UBP and a free lvl 100 set if they ever give those out again.

Stack your stones on Starrk. Block, HP, STR, WIS, Counter, are the most important. These all make you live longer. STR and Block makes you deal more dmg as well.

If you want him to actually hit someone you're gonna need some Hitrate (Less important than Brk.Def. since rarely anyone uses Dodge but you still need some Hit Stones).

Since Starrk is going to attack the VG quite a bit you're gonna need Break Def. Some people run Block on all their partners meaning Break Def. is very important.

And lastly Crit. You don't NEED crit but it's very useful, especially if your opponent has high Break Defense.

author: moongoatie time: 2016-5-17 06:36:57

Edited by moongoatie at 2016-5-17 06:38

My stone setup on my f2p account's Starrky is x6 str/x6 stam/x6 wisdom/x6 block/x4 hit/x4 break def/ x3 counter one socket used so far. As for Crit I wouldn't suggest unless you can get high stones enough to get certain stats (break def/counter) capped

author: [email protected] time: 2016-5-17 06:48:07

Glowing replied at 2016-5-17 12:30
Sorry to say this but... you're not gonna build a strong VG as f2p. I mean, sure you can try but it' ...

Actually, nibbles built a godstarrk while being f2p ^^
Just took him a while to do

author: Glowing time: 2016-5-17 06:54:25

[email protected] replied at 2016-5-17 12:48
Actually, nibbles built a godstarrk while being f2p ^^
Just took him a while to do

I doubt the God part, but I can accept strong. Also being strong changes with time, the top speed list is a prime example. First time they made the list 600-700k was GODspeed, now I am finally at 700k and 1.2mil is the new godspeed.

Don't get me wrong tho I am sure he had a strong Starrk at the time!

author: [email protected] time: 2016-5-17 07:00:02

Glowing replied at 2016-5-17 12:54
I doubt the God part, but I can accept strong. Also being strong changes with time, the top speed ...

Yea, he proabably stil ldoes, he is one of the old players, so his should still be god lvl, unless he put all his starrk's stones on his shuhei which he recently topped up to get...

well anyways, last i saw his starrk, it wouold very much still be a god starrk.
don't exactly remember full stats, but he has 700k bp on him like 6 months ago, should be alot higher now ^^

author: Glowing time: 2016-5-17 07:11:51

[email protected] replied at 2016-5-17 13:00
Yea, he proabably stil ldoes, he is one of the old players, so his should still be god lvl, unless ...

Ah 700k is very good! My Noza has 500k, but he's not stacked. Considering that was 6 months ago it's safe to assume that he entered the 900k-1mil range at least, which I guess I would consider Godlvl!

author: criminal238 time: 2016-5-17 07:41:36

Aim for senbon or Hyorin, C.Orihime is a good partner to get if she can live long enough to skill she will give the assaulters and vanguard 30% extra block and 12% extra damage. Then just follow the stone set-up that people have been telling you.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-5-17 07:49:55

Glowing replied at 2016-5-17 13:11
Ah 700k is very good! My Noza has 500k, but he's not stacked. Considering that was 6 months ago it ...

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-5-17 08:09:44

Glowing replied at 2016-5-17 06:54
I doubt the God part, but I can accept strong. Also being strong changes with time, the top speed ...

Asada on my server is F2P, level 111, and his Starrk has about 550k BP... I'd call that epic for f2p at that level... especially as he's running Kazeshini, lol

author: Glowing time: 2016-5-17 08:34:00

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-5-17 14:09
Asada on my server is F2P, level 111, and his Starrk has about 550k BP... I'd call that epic for f ...

Yea that's impressive but it aint' no God

But yea.. That's pretty good!

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-17 13:42:19

[email protected] replied at 2016-5-17 06:04
M8, starrk is a fine vg, hollowed ichigo is just easier to build on especially if you are f2p.
Now a ...

i plan to get senbon from ubp actually (same % for vg tho) and the killing vil for the most go for the assaultline ;-)

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-17 13:46:25

criminal238 replied at 2016-5-17 07:41
Aim for senbon or Hyorin, C.Orihime is a good partner to get if she can live long enough to skill sh ...

curent team is sihoin, yama, c.ori, main and komamura an that order of attack ill make yama a pure t1 (just need 8 more basic furystones)

author: [email protected] time: 2016-5-17 14:14:28

tytheboy replied at 2016-5-17 19:42
i plan to get senbon from ubp actually (same % for vg tho) and the killing vil for the most go for ...

If you are going for a vg centered zanpakuto, you will be fine, but with starrk, because of his incredibly weak defence, it is still better to use hyorin.
ofc if you are going for a assaulter centered set-up, then i dont think starrk is a good idea <3

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-18 01:33:27

[email protected] replied at 2016-5-17 14:14
If you are going for a vg centered zanpakuto, you will be fine, but with starrk, because of his inc ...

i plan to go 221 with a c ori and maybe aizen as sup that meandenemy sup will be less effective in attack an my vg will get block rate boost (i know starrk has his own block buff and that they dont stack)

author: [email protected] time: 2016-5-18 01:39:01

tytheboy replied at 2016-5-18 07:33
i plan to go 221 with a c ori and maybe aizen as sup that meandenemy sup will be less effective in ...

Nice^^

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-18 01:43:44

[email protected] replied at 2016-5-18 01:39
Nice^^

so do you still thin it wouldnt work with senbon and starrk
(i do pln to get hakuteiken from csb by the way his speed deduct will help my suport and he bonds well with senbon)

author: [email protected] time: 2016-5-18 02:36:46

tytheboy replied at 2016-5-18 07:43
so do you still thin it wouldnt work with senbon and starrk
(i do pln to get hakuteiken from csb ...

I still think that starrk will be a weak VG, but only in the beginning, he is aa lot of work and takes a long time to get to a lvl that is strong.
But after a while, he will be fine^^

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-18 03:35:33

[email protected] replied at 2016-5-18 02:36
I still think that starrk will be a weak VG, but only in the beginning, he is aa lot of work and t ...

but he is the best vg for hollow soulmap?
that is one of my main focuses clearing that one as fast as possible

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-18 03:46:44

then slightly oftopic tor this tread would
youroichi, gin, main, yama and h.ichi be a good hollowmap until i can get aizen?
(still intentionlally to have senbon... kaze atm and eventually hakuteiken instead of yama back and forth likley between those)

author: [email protected] time: 2016-5-18 04:07:44

tytheboy replied at 2016-5-18 09:35
but he is the best vg for hollow soulmap?
that is one of my main focuses clearing that one as fas ...

Well, he is good at that, but my vip 0 friend on my server uses hollowed ichigo for that^^
They are both good for it, but using senbon, it's better to use him than it is to use other vg's

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-18 04:15:18

[email protected] replied at 2016-5-18 04:07
Well, he is good at that, but my vip 0 friend on my server uses hollowed ichigo for that^^
They ar ...

because i have seen that most people use starrk for hollowmap (with hyorin tho) and then gin aizen unohana in formation (typical f2p/low vip formation)
but with a vg zan like senbon i cant have 3sup and effectively fight so a planne 221 for pvp/hollowmap and so on

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-18 05:42:11

still thx for all your views and helpfull advise ^_^ everyone

author: [email protected] time: 2016-5-18 05:49:53

tytheboy replied at 2016-5-18 10:15
because i have seen that most people use starrk for hollowmap (with hyorin tho) and then gin aizen ...

Yea, with senbon you should go 2-2-1 or 1-3-1, no doubt about that

author: Tinoma time: 2016-5-18 06:12:35

get the level 100 set from slot machine which gives you added immune to damage rate and stack on health , block and strength stones for him ...counter is most obviously necessary...... it will take a while to build him as others may have stated but it worth it xD
I use him too and im a f2p as well ... He's amazing <3

author: [email protected] time: 2016-5-18 06:16:06

even u stack stark or h.ichigo u still paper.. already try that one till 900k bp h.ichi or stark with senbon..wait ubp or vip 5 if want.

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-18 06:31:04

Edited by tytheboy at 2016-5-18 06:33

[email protected] replied at 2016-5-18 06:16
even u stack stark or h.ichigo u still paper.. already try that one till 900k bp h.ichi or stark wit ...

i relly doubt ill even become vip 1
if any senbon from ubp

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-18 06:32:45

Tinoma replied at 2016-5-18 06:12
get the level 100 set from slot machine which gives you added immune to damage rate and stack on hea ...

but how about your asSaultline and survive chance?
im guessing you do an offensive build for him tho and lots of strenght stones

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-18 06:35:25

[email protected] replied at 2016-5-18 05:49
Yea, with senbon you should go 2-2-1 or 1-3-1, no doubt about that

it would be stupid not to have muramasa or hyorin for 311
worst case zangetsu, ashisogi and i have seen some few kaze with that build tooleast of all senbon for sup focus

author: [email protected] time: 2016-5-18 08:21:37

tytheboy replied at 2016-5-18 12:35
it would be stupid not to have muramasa or hyorin for 311
worst case zangetsu, ashisogi and i have ...

yea

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-5-18 11:26:24

nahtanojnoom made a good point with Hueco Mundo, If your going to be a F2P with Starrk, make sure you have a back up Vang to run through it, make sure you can make an easy swap between Starrk and whoever you choose as your backup (probably Sajin as he's probably who you use ATM). That way if/when your Starrk dies (he's squishy, sadly that's just the way of it unless YOU fix it with stones, hogus, Zanpactos, ect) your not just dead in the water. Also, i recommend getting H Ichi as well for late ryoka (once they start to kill your vang before you get to deal enough damage, switch in Ichi, as the longer your team lives, the more damage it can deal... duh, lol)

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-5-18 11:30:28

tytheboy replied at 2016-5-18 01:43
so do you still thin it wouldnt work with senbon and starrk
(i do pln to get hakuteiken from csb ...

be careful, a great Starrk is greedy with stones and stuff that you will probably want to give your assaulters. With a Kido Main, 2-2-1, with Stark, Wings, Kido MC, and 2 supports that are more for fury and status will be more than fine, however if you don't have a Kido Main, you will need to have 3 full sets of str stones, making you either have to nerf your assaulters hard, or just have a decent Starrk.
Running Senbon is terrible for supports, as he's really made for a 1-3-1 build, which usually doesn't work well with F2P Starrks because of what i just said... a lack of great stones...

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-18 14:17:52

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-5-18 11:26
nahtanojnoom made a good point with Hueco Mundo, If your going to be a F2P with Starrk, make sure y ...

that is the only thing i thought of if id get h. ichi
but i was doubting his abillity to beat up stuff in hollow map if my asSaulter should die
then again all of the views i get her influence my decision

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-18 14:20:41

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-5-18 11:30
be careful, a great Starrk is greedy with stones and stuff that you will probably want to give you ...

good points indeed and something to think of while building
i have 3 full sets of 7+ lvl stones tho same for wis only 8+ instead (i have much more luck with wis stones in lucky slot machine and the reilo guardian janken

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-5-18 14:40:25

tytheboy replied at 2016-5-18 14:20
good points indeed and something to think of while building
i have 3 full sets of 7+ lvl stones t ...

str stones for Starrk need to be at LEAST level 8... plus a set of wisdom stones help him too, for that kido def

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-18 15:20:22

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-5-18 14:40
str stones for Starrk need to be at LEAST level 8... plus a set of wisdom stones help him too, fo ...

got lvl one lvl 8 rest lvl 7 str on komamura and full lvl8 wis
not my sup is full 8 on their way to 9
and my assaulters are full8 on their way to 9

author: Tinoma time: 2016-5-18 18:24:45

tytheboy replied at 2016-5-18 06:32
but how about your asSaultline and survive chance?
im guessing you do an offensive build for him t ...

Lol well actually I got an all round on him..... he has a lot of defense as well as attack and hp is good enough hehe

Im trying to get Senbon and run him with that amazing zanpacuto <3

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-19 01:07:33

Tinoma replied at 2016-5-18 18:24
Lol well actually I got an all round on him..... he has a lot of defense as well as attack and hp ...

so he will do decent dmg with skill?
(with focus on the "self healing" )

author: Tinoma time: 2016-5-19 07:23:08

tytheboy replied at 2016-5-19 01:07
so he will do decent dmg with skill?
(with focus on the "self healing" )

Lets just say when he skills he does around 110k damage xD which is enoguh to clean up if my yama and I don't do the job lol
And yeah he regenerates around 50k after he skills or more depends :p

Best Vanguard ever <3

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-19 10:09:57

Tinoma replied at 2016-5-19 07:23
Lets just say when he skills he does around 110k damage xD which is enoguh to clean up if my yama ...

even considdering that the enemy vg is the most tanky (i have seen those main stackers yes)
and since starrks does aoe (therefore hitting enemy suport) shouldnt he do more then?

author: Tinoma time: 2016-5-19 12:26:46

tytheboy replied at 2016-5-19 10:09
even considdering that the enemy vg is the most tanky (i have seen those main stackers yes)
and si ...

I never really focused on how much damage he does on support ..... i was referring to the damage he does on assaulters.........when he blocks supporters and hefty amount of their life decrease around 70k with block and when he skills is more than 110k with a critical that is ^^

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-19 12:29:47

Tinoma replied at 2016-5-19 12:26
I never really focused on how much damage he does on support ..... i was referring to the damage h ...

well that sounds like a good thing ^_^ and people say he is eaier to make defensive (everyon knows that now) but can he relly hold his own agains teams using either ikkaku,kenpachi of som kind of grimjow? (or a main with vg damage skill)

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-19 12:33:04

random tought now... would a team with h.ichigo, main, yama, hakuteiken and c.orihime be a good team?
senbon sakura zanpakuto (and any kind of main skill 10, 9 or 8 likely)

author: Tinoma time: 2016-5-19 15:09:01

tytheboy replied at 2016-5-19 12:29
well that sounds like a good thing ^_^ and people say he is eaier to make defensive (everyon knows ...

Ik mine can but it all depends on the opponent you're facing and the players on your server :p
If he is wellllllll stacked and with a very healthy block rate he can hold his own with ikkaku and kenpachi idk much about grimjow ........ I look at coyote as another assaulter and thats how i build him but with slight vanguard qualities lol

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-5-19 16:43:29

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author: alicantibet time: 2016-5-19 16:44:35

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-5-19 22:43
can we kill him yet?

or is there a poll needed first?

i already killed him

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-5-19 17:02:34

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author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-20 01:18:51

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-5-19 16:43
can we kill him yet?

or is there a poll needed first?

kill me?
well i asked you to plz not...
but if you so desire send a picture of ulquiorra segunda ettapa

ill blow that cero straight into my own face and commit sucide

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-5-20 13:05:13

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