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author: rubensdario time: 2016-5-18 20:07:25 Title: Who does more damage on Ryokas and hollow

Who you think does more damage ?

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-5-18 20:43:56

both are easily out damaged by Tavern Ikkaku and Tavern Kenpachi, in fact, with Cute Orihime and Tavern Kieske/Tavern Rukia Ikkaku will skill every round, further increasing his damage. or if your a low VIP, Pan Grim does (VIP1 required), Zabimaru Renji (500 gold in black market) does too...

Zabimaru Zanpacto
Zabimaru Renji, Tavern Ikkaku, Main (9th skill), Cute Orihime, Tavern Kieske...
serious damage potential there bro...

author: rubensdario time: 2016-5-18 20:51:53

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-5-18 20:43
both are easily out damaged by Tavern Ikkaku and Tavern Kenpachi, in fact, with Cute Orihime and Tav ...

i'm low vip, vip4 lv 90, i have in my formation kirinji, kisuke 2 star(almost3), zabimaru renji, shin renji and main to ryokas, would you change this for ikaku or tavern kenpachi, do you think does more damage ?

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-5-18 20:54:12

rubensdario replied at 2016-5-18 20:51
i'm low vip, vip4 lv 90, i have in my formation kirinji, kisuke 2 star(almost3), zabimaru renji, ...

with one fury builder, I'd probably go with kenny... shura kenny if your able... he's my next get, took me over a year to get 3200 CSB stones, but they are coming faster now that i'm getting stronger

author: rubensdario time: 2016-5-18 20:55:37

do you think i should change shin zabimaru for ikaku, will do more damage ?

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-5-18 21:03:07

rubensdario replied at 2016-5-18 20:55
do you think i should change shin zabimaru for ikaku, will do more damage ?

IMO, ikkaku will do much better than Kenny IF you swap out Kirinji for Cute Orihime for events, with 2 fury builders back there, both Ikkaku and Zabi will skill every round, If you stick with only one fury builder, I think Kenpachi will do better for you, and getting ikkaku will be a waste of resources in the long run

author: rubensdario time: 2016-5-18 21:05:55

well i'm almost getting full cultivation, i guess i'll head first to yama then cute

author: rubensdario time: 2016-5-18 21:47:27

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-5-18 21:03
IMO, ikkaku will do much better than Kenny IF you swap out Kirinji for Cute Orihime for events, wi ...

what do you recomend me go for cute orihime first to ryokas, drops more and get stronger and second cultivation get yama, or get yama first ?

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-5-18 22:31:53

rubensdario replied at 2016-5-18 21:47
what do you recomend me go for cute orihime first to ryokas, drops more and get stronger and secon ...

while yama is very very very nice... PVE > PVP as for rewards and strengthening your party in the long run. While i can't promise who i would get, Cute Orihime would probably be the smart choice...

author: [email protected] time: 2016-5-18 22:35:13

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-5-18 20:43
both are easily out damaged by Tavern Ikkaku and Tavern Kenpachi, in fact, with Cute Orihime and Tav ...

how can ikaku skill every round? he get 25 from skill, next turn (in the same turn if ikaku faster than kisuke n rukia) he'll get 55 fury , total 80 fury. so next turn ikaku still used basic attack right? so it's still 1 skill, 1 basic..etc.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-5-18 22:47:30

[email protected] replied at 2016-5-18 22:35
how can ikaku skill every round? he get 25 from skill, next turn (in the same turn if ikaku faster ...

wtf? what was i thinking? I know for a fact I had my Zabi skilling every round with Shinso and ori... maybe i was critting more than i realized?  looking at in on paper, you do for sure look right...

when i'm wrong, i'm wrong... apparently with no crits, i was dead wrong.  sorry if i mislead anyone... shit...  now i have a mystery on my mind... what the F was i thinking about?  i was so sure too... grrr
now that you mention it...  I may be having dejavu cause this conversation seems very familiar...

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-5-18 23:05:59

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2016-5-18 23:07

rubensdario replied at 2016-5-18 21:47
what do you recomend me go for cute orihime first to ryokas, drops more and get stronger and secon ...

just brought to my attention, that something was twisted in my mind...  it looks like to get Ikkaku or zabimaru to skill every round, you need 2 fury builders and crit hits...  so if your crit is high, you will probably skill every round... I'm sorry I was apparently dead wrong in the advice i was giving you.  with this in mind, kenny may well be the better choice.  HOWEVER...  IMO, Pan Grim crushes them both,  great natural damage rate, he's faster, has lacerate which is nice for pvp, easy to T1 (second mod gives fury like Kieske's final one), regens own fury 100 (great counter to D toshi), bonds with Guz nel (VIP2) and Noza (VIP5) for his damage mods.  his evo is good too, good stats and another 10 fury to boot...

his downside?  he's a spirit blade, so if he's PVE only, it will be an annoying swap for your vang as you will need at least a second weapon, and he's an event partner, so he will modify slower than either ikkaku or Kenpachi.

again, sorry i had apparently forgotten how well my supports critted with the statement that ikkaku would skill every round, as that's the only way that could happen

author: rubensdario time: 2016-5-18 23:08:56

i dont know if i understand wrong, if the suport crit, insted gives 30 fury she will give 60 ?

author: playbleach1 time: 2016-5-18 23:34:53

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-5-18 23:05
just brought to my attention, that something was twisted in my mind... it looks like to get Ikkaku ...

ikkaku also can get 37 fury during critical , so yeah he can easily skill every round with ori and shinso with ofc good critic

author: IREG33 time: 2016-5-18 23:54:03

rubensdario replied at 2016-5-19 05:08
i dont know if i understand wrong, if the suport crit, insted gives 30 fury she will give 60 ?

nope crit is 1.5x normal dmg/fury, so orihime/rukia will give 45.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-5-19 02:15:03

playbleach1 replied at 2016-5-18 23:34
ikkaku also can get 37 fury during critical , so yeah he can easily skill every round with ori and ...

what stat give us more crit fury? till now, i don't know what makes fury builder give crit fury cause sometimes my kisuke deal crit damage but he doesn't give crit fury, and sometimes he deal normal damage but give crit fury.

author: playbleach1 time: 2016-5-19 05:56:14

[email protected] replied at 2016-5-19 02:15
what stat give us more crit fury? till now, i don't know what makes fury builder give crit fury ca ...

critical fury doesnt depend on your critical attack but critical %you have and they both act as 2 different acts . 1st act is when u attack , your fury builder's critical attack depends on your opponents counter rate , and 2nd act is to give fury to your partners which only depends on your critical attack percentage by your stats . one more thing i never saw giving critical fury to more then 3 partners during fury build up by those who give fury to whole team and 2 partner by those who provide fury to only Assaulters (like rukia and D.rukia )

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-5-19 08:25:25

playbleach1 replied at 2016-5-18 23:34
ikkaku also can get 37 fury during critical , so yeah he can easily skill every round with ori and ...

yeah, i just try to assume the people i give advice to never crit, lol makes math easier XD

author: playbleach1 time: 2016-5-19 09:27:15

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-5-19 08:25
yeah, i just try to assume the people i give advice to never crit, lol makes math easier XD

ahahahahahahahhaha pimple & peasy rofl

author: [email protected] time: 2016-5-20 13:29:05

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