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author: adventurethis time: 2014-10-17 21:30:37 Title: Strong Vanguard

Hi guys

Just wondering what your thoughts are in making my vanguard stronger, I find that even with 82% he rarely blocks as the other high vip users are all running lvl 4-5 hit stones..i feel like I cannot get his block high enough to actually make a difference against them

Currently:
block 82%
dodge 5% (I am using lvl7-8 strength stones instead as he is an offensive vanguard)
counter 51%
hit 118.%
crit 43%

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-10-17 23:41:01

ermmm... if u r an offensive vanguard... then maybe u could try goin more counter instead of blocks...
since block doesnt realli help u...

just my tot... i haven use an offensive vanguard b4...

author: YagamiLi time: 2014-10-18 01:29:13

offensive vanguards need agi

author: adventurethis time: 2014-10-18 02:07:34

YagamiLi replied at 2014-10-18 00:29
offensive vanguards need agi

He has full lvl 9 agility stones

he may be an offensive vanguard but I would still like to up his survivability

author: [email protected] time: 2014-10-18 03:17:22

Block gets nullified by break, so its possible that the people swinging straight through are using high breaks, high level pve mobs (ie Hollow soul, events ect) all have high stats

author: YagamiLi time: 2014-10-18 12:59:42

wat can i say then, high str high crit high speed......

author: shadower time: 2014-10-18 17:05:46

you need a vanguard that can be offensive you need stark or tosihro for that unless you have one of those dont use offensive vanguard

author: [email protected] time: 2014-10-18 17:57:18

Hit has nothing to do with Block. Break Defense is what counters block.

Anyways, as an example, on my Toshiro, I run :

6 lvl 8/9 Stamina Stones
6 lvl 7/8 Counter Stones
6 lvl 7/8 Strength Stones
6 lvl 7/8 Agility Stones
6 lvl 8/9 Block Stones
4 lvl 6 Hit Stones
2 lvl 9 Dodge Stones (Dodge is useless high level anyhow)

He does very well, and with my lvl 70 rei, he has a bit over 320k HP, nearly 90% block/counter solid enough speed around 65k speed (My mains speed is 102k) and around 70k Phy Dmg. He does pretty well in PvP and PvE like Trials/Espada. He was the difference in me beating Espada 1 and not beating it (couldn't do it with Starrk)

author: adventurethis time: 2014-10-18 20:05:07

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-18 16:57
Hit has nothing to do with Block. Break Defense is what counters block.

Anyways, as an example, on ...

Thanks,

my toshiro has a similar setup but I have crit instead of dodge...against other high vip he doesn't crit much of course but it helps a lot when I put his gear on an assaulter for pve .

author: Glasglow time: 2014-10-19 21:03:13

Hit on your vanguard is really crabby, if he is an offensive vanguard, what good does it do when he can't hit smack?

author: [email protected] time: 2014-10-19 22:50:16

Glasglow replied at 2014-10-19 20:03
Hit on your vanguard is really crabby, if he is an offensive vanguard, what good does it do when he ...

You want hit on an offensive VG so he actually hits, so he does gain fury and get's his fury atk off.

author: coolpoint99 time: 2016-10-21 14:39:59

Ryummon Ikkaku for Vanguards FTW .. he adds another 75% blocks after skill + 15 % def . and he is Agility type Talent and 20% extra natural damage

author: trakiner time: 2016-10-21 23:50:01

Get Seinen Byakuya! You won't ever lose another match!

author: meat0020 time: 2016-10-22 07:17:12

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-18 16:17
Block gets nullified by break, so its possible that the people swinging straight through are using h ...

dont forget the weapon skills like(ignore DEF)

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