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author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 07:17:16     Title: TSI with senbon

Edited by Dotiie at 2016-6-18 12:23

I want a new VG to stack and I know that TSI is great for that but seems like for some ppl tensa is a requirement, so I was wondering if senbon is that bad, I'll buy tensa when his price goes down, but for now I just have senbon

Leave a reply with your opinion


author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 07:40:56

I would like to see some opinions from those that already voted
author: Suzuken    time: 2016-6-18 07:56:48

tensa just increases TSi def every round and with the new partners thats not even a big deal. The def will be over soon and the age of DoT will start with the new partners these months.
Tsi+tensa game is over.
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 07:58:56

Suzuken replied at 2016-6-18 12:56
tensa just increases TSi def every round and with the new partners thats not even a big deal. The de ...

Wouldn't change much with senbon, in terms of defense, senbon is there for the 1st 2 rounds  and also give dmg
author: AssassinwithRPG    time: 2016-6-18 07:59:20

Why not kukaku?
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 08:00:51

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-6-18 12:59
Why not kukaku?

Kukaku can stand against 5 ppl and win the fight?
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 08:34:01

I need more votes and replies before let this post die
author: Evilwolf1    time: 2016-6-18 08:56:47

If you have fast assulter .  Senbon . %25 attack , defence , and speed huge for first round.

Tensa if u have fast support

I have senbon with ichibe , (noza)  w.ichigo , isshin fast assulters i mean It's perfect fits with senbon
author: AssassinwithRPG    time: 2016-6-18 08:57:31

Dotiie replied at 2016-6-18 13:00
Kukaku can stand against 5 ppl and win the fight?

yep if you mod her fast and stack her a fair bit shes a monster.
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 09:11:43

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-6-18 13:57
yep if you mod her fast and stack her a fair bit shes a monster.

Check my server and see what noza has, I'm not at home currently so I can't show, and tell me if that is enough
author: theunknown404    time: 2016-6-18 10:09:56

Dotiie replied at 2016-6-18 09:11
Check my server and see what noza has, I'm not at home currently so I can't show, and tell me if t ...

Going against Noza with another vanguard is generally not a good idea.

Frickin fossilize.
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 10:11:29

Edited by Dotiie at 2016-6-18 15:13
theunknown404 replied at 2016-6-18 15:09
Going against Noza with another vanguard is generally not a good idea.

Frickin fossilize.

I was thinking about that

TSI can deal with that 100% fury back with ex. Skill and fury deduct I guess

author: Glowing    time: 2016-6-18 10:13:37

Edited by Glowing at 2016-6-18 16:20
theunknown404 replied at 2016-6-18 16:09
Going against Noza with another vanguard is generally not a good idea.

Frickin fossilize.

That's why you stack HP on him and win that way, not very reliable but it works. Works especially well with max fortified Hyorinmaru. (Misread what you wrote but I'll keep this anyways fuck it)


You can definitely use TSI with Senbon, he's still going to be strong, but I think using him with Tensa is stronger if you have max fortify, otherwise you can probably use whichever one you prefer and still get the same results.

author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 10:19:01

Glowing replied at 2016-6-18 15:13
That's why you stack HP on him and win that way, not very reliable but it works. Works especially  ...

He said against noza
author: Glowing    time: 2016-6-18 10:19:31

Dotiie replied at 2016-6-18 16:19
He said against noza

Oh shit you're right, my bad
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 10:21:01

Glowing replied at 2016-6-18 15:19
Oh shit you're right, my bad

But I don't think there is a way to win against a faster noza
author: Glowing    time: 2016-6-18 10:30:17

Dotiie replied at 2016-6-18 16:21
But I don't think there is a way to win against a faster noza

The one with the most HP wins, he has to kill you in 2 hits, if you survive those and your vg can heal himself (enchant,hyorinmaru) you win.
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 10:31:59

Edited by Dotiie at 2016-6-18 15:33
Glowing replied at 2016-6-18 15:30
The one with the most HP wins, he has to kill you in 2 hits, if you survive those and your vg can  ...

Well yes, but you lose if both have the same HP and both ends full

edit: TSI has his 4th mod ( when being attacked,50% chance to get 12% of total HP)

author: Glowing    time: 2016-6-18 10:45:34

Dotiie replied at 2016-6-18 16:31
Well yes, but you lose if both have the same HP and both ends full

edit: TSI has his 4th mod ( whe ...

Just had this very fitting battlereport in HMA http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US stacked TSI with Tensa, there is a small-ish lvl gap, but whatever
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 10:47:47

Glowing replied at 2016-6-18 15:45
Just had this very fitting battlereport in HMA http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=2027 ...

I can't watch BR now
author: Glowing    time: 2016-6-18 10:50:26

Dotiie replied at 2016-6-18 16:47
I can't watch BR now

You're not missing much, I kill him in one round, it was just too fitting not to mention
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 10:54:10

Glowing replied at 2016-6-18 15:50
You're not missing much, I kill him in one round, it was just too fitting not to mention

You use TSI? If so, how you deal with stacked nozas?
author: Glowing    time: 2016-6-18 10:55:18

Edited by Glowing at 2016-6-18 16:56
Dotiie replied at 2016-6-18 16:54
You use TSI? If so, how you deal with stacked nozas?

Nah, I was up against one, I use Noza, not stacked tho. I've got Oetsu to deal with those pesky vgs
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 11:00:13

Glowing replied at 2016-6-18 15:55
Nah, I was up against one, I use Noza, not stacked tho. I've got Oetsu to deal with those pesky vgs ...

I see, I guess stacked TSI needs a team to back up against nozas
author: Cronosel    time: 2016-6-18 11:09:37

One word Dotiie: TENSA+ TSI ( SORRY 2)
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 11:12:56

Edited by Dotiie at 2016-6-18 16:14
Cronosel replied at 2016-6-18 16:09
One word Dotiie: TENSA+ TSI ( SORRY 2)

I'm going to get tensa, this post is to see if TSI isn't that bad with senbon for now, so instead of telling me  obvious things you could spend those precious words telling me why it wouldn't work with senbon
author: Brahmastra    time: 2016-6-18 11:30:56

Dotiie replied at 2016-6-18 16:54
You use TSI? If so, how you deal with stacked nozas?

Attack Noza first which should be easy with DBI and hope the enemy team doesn't have a Hiki or more than 1 fury partners.
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 11:38:36

Edited by Dotiie at 2016-6-18 16:42
Brahmastra replied at 2016-6-18 16:30
Attack Noza first which should be easy with DBI and hope the enemy team doesn't have a Hiki or mor ...

Kinda hard, everyone has hiki now
author: AssassinwithRPG    time: 2016-6-18 12:30:40

Dotiie replied at 2016-6-18 14:11
Check my server and see what noza has, I'm not at home currently so I can't show, and tell me if t ...

well i can't tell just by looking. You need to decide yourself.

author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 12:46:44

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-6-18 17:30
well i can't tell just by looking. You need to decide yourself.

I can't I'm to stooped to decide by myself
author: SilverDragon72    time: 2016-6-18 12:57:27

Dotiie replied at 2016-6-18 11:00
I see, I guess stacked TSI needs a team to back up against nozas

Nope.  Check my post where I battle a stacked Noza.
author: Kurumadani    time: 2016-6-18 12:58:50

With exclusive skill TSI will always beat a nozarashi
author: SilverDragon72    time: 2016-6-18 12:59:10

Dotiie replied at 2016-6-18 11:38
Kinda hard, everyone has hiki now

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US
author: maniacpkt    time: 2016-6-18 14:29:31

Dotiie replied at 2016-6-18 10:54
You use TSI? If so, how you deal with stacked nozas?

I run Senbon with TSI
[attach]15469[/attach]
for stacked Nozas I've got these 2, B Renji is really the key for me
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author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 14:31:46

maniacpkt replied at 2016-6-18 19:29
I run Senbon with TSI

for stacked Nozas I've got these 2, B Renji is really the key for me

What about faster hikis?
author: maniacpkt    time: 2016-6-18 15:49:40

Dotiie replied at 2016-6-18 14:31
What about faster hikis?

unless they are just brutal (over 1.6M BP and T1) I can usually weather the storm and block kill/kill after inv is gone.  but i do wish i had a real zero division support to help with her
author: SilverDragon72    time: 2016-6-18 17:10:29

Dotiie replied at 2016-6-18 14:31
What about faster hikis?

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

Faster Hiki.
author: SilverDragon72    time: 2016-6-18 17:17:42

maniacpkt replied at 2016-6-18 14:29
I run Senbon with TSI

for stacked Nozas I've got these 2, B Renji is really the key for me

[attach]15472[/attach]

author: Cronosel    time: 2016-6-18 18:52:08

I really prefer Nozarashi. TSI is very very offensive vanguard, but defense is trash. Maybe u use tensa+ mugetsu+ mayuri to give him extra 20% block.

Noza still better in my opinion for pve and pvp. I have s kukkau, tsi, ichibe, d ichigo, and Noza still better than all.
author: Cronosel    time: 2016-6-18 18:54:32

Today i got Delicated Yachiru. Probably running in few days with 1-3-1 ==== Hikifune ( or s nemu) // Mayuri + delicated yachiru// and Noza heavy stacked god.

167.5% block rate
author: Devvoke2    time: 2016-6-18 19:00:00

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author: Cronosel    time: 2016-6-18 19:11:10

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-6-18 21:00
have fun trying to break that guys

only a handful of partners can break that block rate

                                 
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 19:12:39

Edited by Dotiie at 2016-6-19 00:14
Devvoke2 replied at 2016-6-19 00:00
have fun trying to break that guys

only a handful of partners can break that block rate

just kill mayuri and yachiru, and noza will go back to 136%
author: Devvoke2    time: 2016-6-18 19:15:55

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author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 19:18:13

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-6-19 00:15
but still noza will have blocked most of the attacks (most are aoe skill attacks)

hiki with katen can easly 1shot and she doesnt touch the vg
author: SilverDragon72    time: 2016-6-18 19:20:48

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-6-18 19:00
have fun trying to break that guys

only a handful of partners can break that block rate

hahaha... Hahahaha... Nozy... Block... HHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
author: Evild4nte    time: 2016-6-18 20:04:16

SilverDragon72 replied at 2016-6-18 23:10
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=11831416596044792&aid=54&t=1&lang=en_US

Faster Hik ...

Why is he invincible ?
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-18 20:06:17

Evild4nte replied at 2016-6-19 01:04
Why is he invincible ?

Bond with ryumon ikkaku
author: Devvoke2    time: 2016-6-18 21:04:09

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author: maniacpkt    time: 2016-6-20 18:11:18

here is my 2 cents on TSI + Senbon

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

you tell me if it's a viable pairing!!
author: Dotiie    time: 2016-6-20 18:55:20

maniacpkt replied at 2016-6-20 23:11
here is my 2 cents on TSI + Senbon

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=43935309291353440 ...

senbon is better than tensa for the 1st 2 rounds
author: maniacpkt    time: 2016-6-20 18:57:18

Dotiie replied at 2016-6-20 18:55
senbon is better than tensa for the 1st 2 rounds

so bummed...  so far, no love for beating Nox Aeterna  :/

oh well, at least i'm stoked, lol
author: undine    time: 2016-6-25 05:31:04

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-6-18 12:30
well i can't tell just by looking. You need to decide yourself.

gtfo out of my europe
author: ajoalex    time: 2016-6-25 06:05:19

SilverDragon72 replied at 2016-6-19 01:59
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=11830806710684564&aid=54&t=1&lang=en_US

TSI is the best VG for now. proof is here ^^.
No further discussion needed.

Thank you for that BR. <3
author: AssassinwithRPG    time: 2016-6-25 07:09:06

undine replied at 2016-6-25 10:31
gtfo out of my europe

already on the way out of it XD
author: SilverDragon72    time: 2016-6-27 13:56:18

Kurumadani replied at 2016-6-18 12:58
With exclusive skill TSI will always beat a nozarashi

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US
author: Kurumadani    time: 2016-6-27 14:31:14

SilverDragon72 replied at 2016-6-27 13:56
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=11823183144514892&aid=54&t=1&lang=en_US

easy if noza stays chaosed but still blocks op
author: SilverDragon72    time: 2016-6-27 15:00:08

Kurumadani replied at 2016-6-27 14:31
easy if noza stays chaosed but still blocks op

Did you watch the entire fight?  I lost to a ghost Nozy!!!
author: Kurumadani    time: 2016-6-27 17:36:55

SilverDragon72 replied at 2016-6-27 15:00
Did you watch the entire fight?  I lost to a ghost Nozy!!!

oh lol i was wondering why it kept going on
author: hirotenzan    time: 2016-6-28 04:40:53

SilverDragon72 replied at 2016-6-27 15:00
Did you watch the entire fight?  I lost to a ghost Nozy!!!

what his rein skill, bcos if his rein skill heal full hp u when he hit himself he can heal itself. So u cant kill noza if he keep heal, u will hv problem when his noza yellow, i havent reach red rein yet so dont know noza red rein like what. But with yellow already make alot ppl mess ^^, ur choice only have bruk / oetsu.

that noza guy still have one mistakes i wont tell it ^o^ but when he know whats wrong u only can win with oetsu/bruk +katen
author: SilverDragon72    time: 2016-6-28 21:19:58

hirotenzan replied at 2016-6-28 04:40
what his rein skill, bcos if his rein skill heal full hp u when he hit himself he can heal itself. ...

Huh?

His Nozy died.  It is a glitch...

TSI>NOZY
author: hirotenzan    time: 2016-6-29 15:04:12

SilverDragon72 replied at 2016-6-28 21:19
Huh?

His Nozy died.  It is a glitch...

not glitch when he hit self when his hp almost 0 u saw orange damage to himself not yellow its mean heal.
author: SilverDragon72    time: 2016-6-29 19:45:08

hirotenzan replied at 2016-6-29 15:04
not glitch when he hit self when his hp almost 0 u saw orange damage to himself not yellow its mean ...

I thought it was:
Yellow = Normal Attack
Orange = Critical Attack
Green = Heals

Did I miss something?
author: hirotenzan    time: 2016-6-29 21:01:19

crit red- try see again ur BR.

theres sign "-" its mean heal




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