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author: [email protected]    time: 2016-7-26 06:47:09     Title: Resurreccion Ulquiorra, Yamamoto or H.Byakuya

which one better overall? and why?

author: Asian123    time: 2016-7-26 06:48:13

Edited by Asian123 at 2016-7-26 16:49

People will probably choose Yama, coz of his skill, but I'd prefer Hakuteiken Byakuya because of his speed and combo.Yama is slow as hell, and Hakuteiken Byakuya even reduces 10% or 5% speed of your opponents.
That helps, a lot.

author: erazor123    time: 2016-7-26 06:50:29

Yama is as fast as Hakuteiken with his mods (1 & 4)
And from his evo & mods he's got the best damages
author: Asian123    time: 2016-7-26 06:52:52

erazor123 replied at 2016-7-26 16:50
Yama is as fast as Hakuteiken with his mods (1 & 4)
And from his evo & mods he's got the best damage ...

Nope.
Not as fast.He only gets 16350 from evo.
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-7-26 07:01:07

Asian123 replied at 2016-7-26 19:52
Nope.
Not as fast.He only gets 16350 from evo.

agree. yama SLIGHTLY slower than haku bya but his dot damage really helpful.
but dont forget R. Ulquiorra have that too plus with recover his own Fury by 38 points.
man this is tough especially when you only need 1 of them!
author: erazor123    time: 2016-7-26 08:48:56

Edited by erazor123 at 2016-7-26 09:47

4k speed is like ridiculous... 10% FINAL speed is awesome
It means it increases the speed bonus from evo, hogyokus, hollow soul maps ...

author: Glowing    time: 2016-7-26 08:55:05

Edited by Glowing at 2016-7-26 14:58

This is a hard one, all 3 are good so I would make the pick based on what team comp you have.

If you intend to get Noza; Res. Ulq. is the way to go for that extra block rate, plus you can use soul cult to get stones instead and use Challenge stones for Shura or White Ichigo.

Yama has the best growth by a tiny margin over Byakuya, Res. Ulq. has pretty bad growth.

Skill wise I'd say they are pretty equal, it depends on what you want.


author: xlonnz    time: 2016-7-26 09:10:33

no guys belive me ulquiorra is the best one  cuz off the 170% damage  and cast 3 burn damage   and if activate the 5th mod  35%crit rate hes beastly . and dont forget the fury he gets
author: Devvoke2    time: 2016-7-26 09:43:38

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author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-7-26 12:41:25

has everyone here forgot about Byaukua's 100% combo rate?  that more than accounts for the DOT he's lacking!!
Res is only good as bond for Noza
Yama is only good if your going for shura kenpachi from CSB
Byaukua is only good if your not willing to spend big money to get Koga/Mug/W Ichi/Yawech/Handsome Toshi/ect
author: erazor123    time: 2016-7-26 12:44:35

If u stack those partners, full speed atk and t1, the combo from byakuya is quite useless. The burn dot from the others is good to kill the enemy vanguard too
author: Asian123    time: 2016-7-26 14:44:18

[email protected] replied at 2016-7-26 17:01
agree. yama SLIGHTLY slower than haku bya but his dot damage really helpful.
but dont forget R. Ul ...

Yeah.
I use Yama, so it was easy for me. XD
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-7-26 15:00:44

erazor123 replied at 2016-7-26 12:44
If u stack those partners, full speed atk and t1, the combo from byakuya is quite useless. The burn  ...

okay...  so your saying that an extra attack each round, and thus extra skills in longer fights is useless?   okay bro, if you say so, but i disagree
author: erazor123    time: 2016-7-26 18:08:30

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-7-26 15:00
okay...  so your saying that an extra attack each round, and thus extra skills in longer fights is ...

Not in long fights. If u one shot the entire team in the first round then there its useless
author: Devvoke2    time: 2016-7-26 21:53:17

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author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-7-26 23:41:57

erazor123 replied at 2016-7-26 06:50
Yama is as fast as Hakuteiken with his mods (1 & 4)
And from his evo & mods he's got the best damage ...

you know yamas 4th mod doesn't affect his speed at all his 4th mod gives speed to manic blade which is your vanguard
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-7-26 23:42:29

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2016-7-26 23:43
Devvoke2 replied at 2016-7-26 21:53
fook you saying res uql shits on all these wimps

Not what i said.  Let me be more clear...
First off, unless your buying them with $$$ you can't get his coupons in HM till what? level 100?
so, Shin Ulquorria at best by level 102 or 103 (assuming you saved up HM coins from day one and hit all the daily events) and level 115 for Res Ulquorria
f2p can get Yama by level 90 without much trouble, and by level 100 fairly easily

Shin Ulquorria vs Yama is a joke of a comparison, yama crushes him in every way shape and form.
Res Ulquorria however is much closer to Yama...  In fact I can't say for sure which is better, however with them being so close to each other, the fact that you can easily get yama 15+ levels sooner, with much less planning and grinding IMO makes yama the easy choice between them. and once you get Yama on your team, Ulquorria is redundant as burn overwrites burn, and being you have already had 15+ levels to build up yama, that's another mark in yama's favor.  IMO. Res is for sure a beast, but now that yama is free, Ulquorria's only use is as bond for Noza's block, UNLESS you already have him up and built, in which case he's for sure worth keeping.
so, no, res isn't garbage, and yama isn't hands down better than him.  yama wins because he's easier to get and obtainable much sooner ingame.


but wings still wins by a landslide, lol
author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-7-26 23:44:42

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-7-26 23:42
Not what i said.  Let me be more clear...
First off, unless your buying them with $$$ you can't get ...

when you say wings your talking about Hakutein right
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-7-26 23:45:33

erazor123 replied at 2016-7-26 18:08
Not in long fights. If u one shot the entire team in the first round then there its useless

so is burn, lol
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-7-26 23:49:07

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-7-26 23:44
when you say wings your talking about Hakutein right

yup...

#wingsforprez
author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-7-26 23:50:44

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-7-26 23:49
yup...

#wingsforprez

lol I'm not sure who I want to get from csb but since I have a long time in deciding ill figure it out when I'm closer I'm only at 2.5k stones
author: kiyru13    time: 2016-7-26 23:57:12

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-7-26 23:42
Not what i said.  Let me be more clear...
First off, unless your buying them with $$$ you can't get ...

Actually if I remember correctly you get Shin ulquiorra fragments around lvl 90-95 because at lvl 101 you get Ken frags then and 111 is when you can get Aizen frags
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-7-26 23:59:17

kiyru13 replied at 2016-7-26 23:57
Actually if I remember correctly you get Shin ulquiorra fragments around lvl 90-95 because at lvl  ...

fair enough, that sounds right, still the rest of my statement stands, you for sure can't get Res till level 115, and res is the one that stands up to Yama
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-7-27 00:01:17

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-7-26 23:50
lol I'm not sure who I want to get from csb but since I have a long time in deciding ill figure it ...

Kenpachi is a f*cking monster in PVE
Byaukua is the same thing for PVP

big money partners not included, these 2 are some of the most premium, if not THE premium partners in the game
author: kiyru13    time: 2016-7-27 00:04:42

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-7-26 23:59
fair enough, that sounds right, still the rest of my statement stands, you for sure can't get Res  ...

That is true. Im not saying your wrong but you would be able to spend roughly the same amount of time stacking your shin ulquiorra to be even more powerful when you finally did upgrade him at lvl 115. I have neither but in my server quite a few people have yama and only one has Res ulquiorra.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-7-27 00:11:56

kiyru13 replied at 2016-7-27 00:04
That is true. Im not saying your wrong but you would be able to spend roughly the same amount of t ...

Yeah,  both are fantastic for what they are, and probably on par with each other.
author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-7-27 00:16:03

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-7-27 00:01
Kenpachi is a f*cking monster in PVE
Byaukua is the same thing for PVP

lol well I have a long way to go well my pve is lacking I'm pretty sure I'm ok in the assaulter department I use my yama and uryu almost got uryus 4th mod and I'm waiting for his last mod which increases crit damage which'll be very sexy and right now my vanguard is shit sajin I do have 3k gold reishi so I'm almost there and give me 4-5 months and ill have shin kenpachi lol
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-7-27 00:22:40

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-7-27 00:16
lol well I have a long way to go well my pve is lacking I'm pretty sure I'm ok in the assaulter de ...

H Ichi > Shin Kenpachi...

Noza however is a different story

and FYI, I'm sure you know, but Kenny is a spirit blade
author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-7-27 00:28:03

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-7-27 00:22
H Ichi > Shin Kenpachi...

Noza however is a different story

well yeah getting csb Kenny would be a pain in the ass because I have no spirit blades
and yes I figured H.ichi is better for pvp but not in pve because  of shin kenpachis mods and skill
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-7-27 08:32:09

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-7-27 01:41
has everyone here forgot about Byaukua's 100% combo rate?  that more than accounts for the DOT he's  ...

wish i could click like for this post
author: Devvoke2    time: 2016-7-27 11:53:36

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author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-7-27 11:54:27

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-7-27 11:53
res burn helps clear a lot of the stages even when the enemy has 40 more avoid injury or immune rate ...

lol I would but I never pay attention to those and just do them
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-7-27 18:03:30

[email protected] replied at 2016-7-27 08:32
wish i could click like for this post

consider it clicked and rechecked, lol
author: LeoNx93    time: 2016-7-27 22:56:00

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-7-26 12:41
has everyone here forgot about Byaukua's 100% combo rate?  that more than accounts for the DOT he's  ...

ulquiorra is by noooo means "only good as bond for noza"
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-7-28 12:20:20

LeoNx93 replied at 2016-7-27 22:56
ulquiorra is by noooo means "only good as bond for noza"

Let me explain what i meant...

Shin Ulquiorra is utter crap as you can get him about the same time you can get Yama, and Yama crushes him all day long
Res Ulquiorra however is very good,  maybe even marginally better than Yama, but you can't get him till level 115, and you must be VIP, which is a HUGE ding against him.
I know it's not fair, but now that Yama is free and easy to get, Ulquorria is outdated and obsolete, like Mugetsu,  a VERY solid partner, but you can get better for cheaper and easier
Res Ulquiorra's bond with Noza however keeps him relevant for sure and these days is his only saving grace IMO
author: LeoNx93    time: 2016-7-28 19:01:53

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-7-28 12:20
Let me explain what i meant...

Shin Ulquiorra is utter crap as you can get him about the same tim ...

Let me explain what i meant...

ulquiorra is by noooo means "only good as bond for noza"

have a good day teehee.
author: maniacpkt    time: 2016-7-28 20:04:45

LeoNx93 replied at 2016-7-28 19:01
Let me explain what i meant...

ulquiorra is by noooo means "only good as bond for noza"

okay...   Ulquiorria is "basicly only good as bond for Noza" as he's on par with Yama and also harder and longer to obtain.  If you don't already have him, and don't plan to get Noza, skip him unless your a glutton for punishment...  oh,  and i forgot to mention, another big pitfall for Ulquiorra and Yama is they have burn, which clashes with Tenjiro, AKA, the cheapest, blistering fast, hard hitting, CC, hella burn, SSS, Red, cleanup support that has ignore invincibility in the game, while Byaukua accually helps achieve the same result as Tenjiro, as Tenjiro boost your support(s) speed, and Byaukua slows your foes...  Imagine this if you will as a low VIP late game team...Kazeshini/Muramasa as your Zan
Noza Kenpachi as your Vang
CSB Byaukua and main with 8th skill for Assaulters
Tenjiro and Tavern Kiuske for T1ing on a budget

Noza there to block kill and supress god vangs, Middle row gets 2x hits/round and therefore skill very often, Tenjiro is there for good cleanup, and when full modded he can help take care of Hikis as well, then Kiuske can T1 on a budget.  Also, if you don't want to use Kiuske you can instead use Cute Orihime to help boost the block of your front 3 and help boost fury and block in your rapidly attacking middle row.

author: Devvoke2    time: 2016-7-29 09:05:56

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author: erazor123    time: 2016-7-31 18:53:45

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-7-26 23:41
you know yamas 4th mod doesn't affect his speed at all his 4th mod gives speed to manic blade whic ...

manic blade and ghost blade is the same thing, it's the kind of weapon...
author: Shadow49999    time: 2016-7-31 18:55:57

erazor123 replied at 2016-7-31 18:53
manic blade and ghost blade is the same thing, it's the kind of weapon...

but it still says ally right so not himself?
author: erazor123    time: 2016-8-1 16:06:04

yes himself too of course




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