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author: [email protected] time: 2016-9-10 06:34:30 Title: Block or Counter?

Hello everyone. I need advice about stone setup. I want to remove my stamina stones from all partners (ofc exept vg) and put block or counter stones. What should I do?

author: Minimmoi time: 2016-9-10 06:45:40

Counter for less crit. Block would be kinda useless against stone capped break def ppls

author: criminal238 time: 2016-9-10 07:44:09

Block stones should really only be used on your vanguard unless you own a Mayuri and or don't run a vanguard for es. Counter stones can be used for all partners but should be mainly used on your vanguard to stop people from landing crits.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-9-10 07:54:56

criminal238 replied at 2016-9-10 06:44
Block stones should really only be used on your vanguard unless you own a Mayuri and or don't run a ...

I want to put block or counter stones on supp and ass. whats better choice?

author: erazor123 time: 2016-9-10 08:31:55

Edited by erazor123 at 2016-9-10 08:36

Block becomes useless in high bp cuz everyone's at 90% break def so it cancels the 90% from block stones, also block stones have lower grow rate than break def stones (I mean one lvl 10 stone block is 20% but a lvl 10 break def stone is 30%)
That's why you should put counter stones on your team, cuz a counter stone same level as a crit stone gives more : 1lvl 10 crit is 20%, 1lvl10 counter is 30%
U can say that Crit<Counter, and Block<Break def
Of course it has exceptions, on partners with % over cap (For instance, 90% counter is not that usefull against BRenji with 160% , it still makes 70% crit)
Anyway, just put counter stones for pvp, and block stones for pve generally

author: [email protected] time: 2016-9-10 09:07:10

erazor123 replied at 2016-9-10 07:31
Block becomes useless in high bp cuz everyone's at 90% break def so it cancels the 90% from block st ...

Thanks

author: criminal238 time: 2016-9-10 15:38:59

[email protected] replied at 2016-9-10 07:54
I want to put block or counter stones on supp and ass. whats better choice?

I would use block only for your van. I took off all my character bar my van as an example for you

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

For the rest of your team just use counter stones but focus on your van more. Also my noza is average and not that strong compared to others

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-9-10 16:25:19

block for supports is not the best place to put them. counter is the better choice back there if you have extra block stones, i'd put them on assaulters for pve

author: Gensei_chan time: 2016-9-10 16:45:08

what's your level, pvp, pve formation, zanp....???

block (return damages) => for offensive VGs (not essential on defensive ones) AND as much as you can on Assaulters (especially if you play ES and RA with no VG) / supports may come last
counter (avoid-crit) => on all team (VG in priority, to avoid giving ez fury to opponents when the fight lasts more than 2 rounds)

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-9-10 16:55:26

Gensei_chan replied at 2016-9-10 16:45
what's your level, pvp, pve formation, zanp....???

block (return damages) => for offensive VGs (not ...

block is good on defensive vangs too, because blocked hits deal much less damage

author: [email protected] time: 2016-9-10 17:03:08

Gensei_chan replied at 2016-9-10 15:45
what's your level, pvp, pve formation, zanp....???

block (return damages) => for offensive VGs (not ...

lvl 112 (renc 2 times), zan-Zangetsu, formation 1-3-1 H.Ichigo-Yamma,Main,Brenji-Gin

author: Gensei_chan time: 2016-9-10 17:08:55

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-9-10 22:55
block is good on defensive vangs too, because blocked hits deal much less damage

yep, true statement

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