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Title: B.Renji in? Who to switch out (PvE) [Print this page]

author: Patharoth time: 2016-9-19 04:55:57 Title: B.Renji in? Who to switch out (PvE)

Title asks the question, check my reply below for more info.

author: Patharoth time: 2016-9-19 04:57:01

Edited by Patharoth at 2016-9-19 04:59

If I were to pick up B. Renji, my PvE (mainly ES) formation would change.
Note I use 0-3-2, picture below shows my ES formation:

Normally I'm a 1-2-2 in PvP as seen below:

Cheers, also.. if you feel like it, comment on who would be better in PvP :p
Isshin or B Renji

I know that B. Renji's limit to only attack 2 enemies can be annoying, but if I'm fighting someone w/ a 1-2-2,
it wont really matter I supose.
**Edit: Just switching up a few things, haven't done a poll post before**

author: erazor123 time: 2016-9-19 05:08:43

Edited by erazor123 at 2016-9-19 05:17

Hey Isshin + BRenji is actually the second best assaulter line in pve. Welcome to fury land

author: Djroman time: 2016-9-19 05:12:52

erazor123 replied at 2016-9-19 10:08
Hey Isshin + BRenji is actually the best assaulter line in pve

+1 ( One of the best, Not the best.)

author: erazor123 time: 2016-9-19 05:16:39

Djroman replied at 2016-9-19 05:12
+1 ( One of the best, Not the best.)

yah Koga instead of Isshin if you have 90% dodge stone on every partner is even better

author: Djroman time: 2016-9-19 05:19:17

erazor123 replied at 2016-9-19 10:16
yah Koga instead of Isshin if you have 90% dodge stone on every partner is even better

But dodge is not for PVE, Block is xD

author: Patharoth time: 2016-9-19 05:22:43

erazor123 replied at 2016-9-19 05:08
Hey Isshin + BRenji is actually the second best assaulter line in pve. Welcome to fury land

Confused about the Isshin part

Is it a ex. skill?

Right now he neither reduces enemy fury on hit nor does he gain any Fury when he attacks.

author: Patharoth time: 2016-9-19 05:23:21

Djroman replied at 2016-9-19 05:19
But dodge is not for PVE, Block is xD

Pretty sure I've f'cked up my way of using Block stones :p Soph Rangiku is the only one in my formation using block stones or dodge stones at all ;s

author: Djroman time: 2016-9-19 05:24:39

I use 3 assaulters for PVE, all have 80%+ block and Kenpachi skill +10% for 3 rounds so i cap it, 0 dodge, since if i dodge, block won't proc

author: Patharoth time: 2016-9-19 05:57:55

Djroman replied at 2016-9-19 05:24
I use 3 assaulters for PVE, all have 80%+ block and Kenpachi skill +10% for 3 rounds so i cap it, 0 ...

Hmm, I can see I can do alot more stuff to optimize my setup up, but I fear my block stones are ruined for good.. only got level 9 and level 10 on Rangiku :T Bummer..

That Kenpachi skill.. Is it Shin Shura from SWP?

author: Djroman time: 2016-9-19 05:59:21

Patharoth replied at 2016-9-19 10:57
Hmm, I can see I can do alot more stuff to optimize my setup up, but I fear my block stones are ru ...

No, Kenpachi from the Tavern, His skill gives 10% block to all assaulters for 3 rounds. I almost finished capping my block rates anyway, so once tavern upgrade drops i will use Uryu Cause of his Crit Damage instead and 330% skill

author: Patharoth time: 2016-9-19 06:02:41

Djroman replied at 2016-9-19 05:59
No, Kenpachi from the Tavern, His skill gives 10% block to all assaulters for 3 rounds. I almost f ...

I see, I don't think it'll be worth it for me to get Tavern Kenpachi, struggling w/ space in my formation as is :p But it's definately good to know. Definately need to something about my assualters lack of block.

No reason to give Support any Block right? As I understood it, Block damage is scaled by Strength?
Does Phys Def help scaling Block damage as well?.. man sooo many question.

author: erazor123 time: 2016-9-19 06:16:27

Edited by erazor123 at 2016-9-19 06:18

Oh wait it's right you guys have the bad Isshin on your servers lol. Brenji still better, but mb keep sexy and Brenji for pve with the 8th skill on main, but you'll need 2 fury supports .. Just put Cute Ori instead of Hikifune..
So you get 100 fury back on main and on yoruichi, and you get the combo round for Brenji at every round. Cuz on my servers Isshin hits at 250% and gets 100 fury back each round xd
Cute    B.Renji
         Main
Shinso  Sexy Yoru

author: Patharoth time: 2016-9-19 06:27:20

erazor123 replied at 2016-9-19 06:16
Oh wait it's right you guys have the bad Isshin on your servers lol. Brenji still better, but mb kee ...

So the damage buff from Hiki wont matter?

Hmm.. my main sucks though, I got 8th skill n all but.. Urgh.. main char so bad >.< Well atleast mine is :p

author: Djroman time: 2016-9-19 07:17:29

Patharoth replied at 2016-9-19 11:02
I see, I don't think it'll be worth it for me to get Tavern Kenpachi, struggling w/ space in my for ...

You don't need Block on supporters because your assaulters are only ones always getting hit, supporters never get hit , until the whole team just gets 1 shot by the PVE skill

author: Patharoth time: 2016-9-19 07:21:10

Djroman replied at 2016-9-19 07:17
You don't need Block on supporters because your assaulters are only ones always getting hit, suppo ...

Hmm, true, true.. Al'ight, I'll need to see what I can do about my team, Thanks for the help

author: Djroman time: 2016-9-19 08:33:18

Patharoth replied at 2016-9-19 12:21
Hmm, true, true.. Al'ight, I'll need to see what I can do about my team, Thanks for the help

No probs xD

author: tytheboy time: 2016-9-19 09:12:35

erazor123 replied at 2016-9-19 05:08
Hey Isshin + BRenji is actually the second best assaulter line in pve. Welcome to fury land

you are a smart person my man

you will guaranteed make 280%dmg with a stackes b.reji each turn cuz he regen for new skill perfect for combo skils

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2016-9-19 10:41:45

Shinigami Kensei

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-9-19 14:40:10

Patharoth replied at 2016-9-19 05:57
Hmm, I can see I can do alot more stuff to optimize my setup up, but I fear my block stones are ru ...

IMO, Shura Kenpachi from CSB is the replacement for Isshin you need, He's a PVE god... and you should have no more than 90% block from stones (or many other stats for that mater) all the rest of it is wasted... having 6x level 5 stones gives more boost than 3x level 6 stones... just a tip

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-9-19 18:59:03

tytheboy replied at 2016-9-19 09:12
you are a smart person my man
you will guaranteed make 280%dmg with a stackes b.reji ea ...

I had Shura, Isshin, and Main in middle row...
replced Isshin with Sexy Yourichi
Sexy was close to 10 levels lower, 8 levels lower SC, 2 stars lower modded, 7 levels lower evo
damage almost doubled... Isshin is old news

author: tytheboy time: 2016-9-19 22:56:54

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-9-19 18:59
I had Shura, Isshin, and Main in middle row...
replced Isshin with Sexy Yourichi
Sexy was close to ...

so the growth of sexy youro out does the combo that isshin does that much?

author: Patharoth time: 2016-9-20 01:46:10

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-9-19 18:59
I had Shura, Isshin, and Main in middle row...
replced Isshin with Sexy Yourichi
Sexy was close to ...

We talking new or old Isshin?

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-9-20 09:29:20

Patharoth replied at 2016-9-20 01:46
We talking new or old Isshin?

in US and EU there is only one isshin... the nerfed Isshin, and that's the one i'm talking about... but still, with Shinso and Cute Orihime in the back row, it shouldn't matter as Sexy furys every turn @ 305% damage rate, and the 35% combo can be migated with the main using the 8th skill as cute buffs attack almost as much on assaulters, and sexy buffs it on supports, and both of them stack with Sogyo's buff...

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-9-20 09:31:00

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2016-9-20 09:32

tytheboy replied at 2016-9-19 22:56
so the growth of sexy youro out does the combo that isshin does that much?

if you use the 8th skill on main, he makes both his combo 100% and another of your assaulters (or at least it makes my Shura combo every turn, and I've seen as much elsewhere on the forums) but yes, for me at least, Sexy destroys Isshin in PVE
my best advice... test both, see who does better for you

author: Djroman time: 2016-9-20 10:21:45

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-9-20 14:29
in US and EU there is only one isshin... the nerfed Isshin, and that's the one i'm talking about. ...

Actually You are wrong , There are 2 Isshins in the game right now and it hasn't been fixed. New Isshin ( Nerfed, In all events ) and Old Isshin ( Still In Dominators Event ) They are both in the game, and you can have them on the same team. If you don't believe me , Go to Modify Partner and Event Partners, Both Isshins are in the game still.

author: erazor123 time: 2016-9-20 13:14:17

Sexy yoru would be better than Isshin here cuz u can go for 8th skill on the main, cute and shinso + yoru will allow the main and yoru to skill each round, so with 8th skill you can give 1 combo round to BRenji every round..

author: tytheboy time: 2016-9-20 14:13:02

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-9-20 09:31
if you use the 8th skill on main, he makes both his combo 100% and another of your assaulters (or a ...

the info for the #8 skill is increse own combo by 100% that means you have a 100% chance to make another assaulter attack again the same turn (where ad isshin gives that buff to all assaulters just significantly lower)
that is why the main/hakuteiken combo is such an op pvp if you are faster than your oponents (you will make up to 4/5 attacks in one turn bu your 2 assaulters (if you are lucky and gets of with hakuteikens normal comborate (and then you will have the abillity to skill again several times in one turn possibly as well)

author: erazor123 time: 2016-9-20 14:22:28

tytheboy replied at 2016-9-20 14:13
the info for the #8 skill is increse own combo by 100% that means you have a 100% chance to make a ...

yay give the combo round from your main to Brenji. also yoruichi has max 41% combo rate so still good isnt it

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-9-20 14:41:53

Djroman replied at 2016-9-20 10:21
Actually You are wrong , There are 2 Isshins in the game right now and it hasn't been fixed. New I ...

fair enough

author: Djroman time: 2016-9-20 14:46:44

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-9-20 19:41
fair enough

Saw it yourself xD? It's funny af

author: tytheboy time: 2016-9-20 15:40:29

erazor123 replied at 2016-9-20 14:22
yay give the combo round from your main to Brenji. also yoruichi has max 41% combo rate so still g ...

yeah that is relly good ^_^ but did you include the combo that ishin give now?

author: erazor123 time: 2016-9-20 16:42:11

tytheboy replied at 2016-9-20 15:40
yeah that is relly good ^_^ but did you include the combo that ishin give now?

no it's her natural combo from evo and stuff like that

author: tytheboy time: 2016-9-20 22:29:33

erazor123 replied at 2016-9-20 16:42
no it's her natural combo from evo and stuff like that

in that case it is a massive combo for one partner alone (i dont thenk even w.ichigo has tha high and ha is known for his comborate in his talent too)

author: erazor123 time: 2016-9-21 06:02:12

tytheboy replied at 2016-9-20 22:29
in that case it is a massive combo for one partner alone (i dont thenk even w.ichigo has tha high ...

yes she has the highest natural combo in the game
10% talent
25% evo
1.5% base
5% 110 set
=41.5%

White Ichigo has : 17+18+5=40%
almost same xD

But she's better in pve than him anyway

author: tytheboy time: 2016-9-21 13:38:42

erazor123 replied at 2016-9-21 06:02
yes she has the highest natural combo in the game
10% talent
25% evo

with exception of hollow soulmap where he can wreck anything in a few rounds (attacl all and then give himself a dmg boost (following up with skill again either the folowing round (if you uce 2 fury gainers and one of them combo once ) with his incresed attack
otherwhise he will do the skill after normal amount of turns

author: HadaRiki time: 2016-9-21 23:24:42

Edited by HadaRiki at 2016-9-21 23:26

yama has the highest combo in the game

1% base
11% evo
25% last mod (it says its break but its combo)
equaling 37% or 42% if you have a 110 ultimate set

author: [email protected] time: 2016-9-22 11:35:40

Djroman replied at 2016-9-20 14:46
Saw it yourself xD? It's funny af

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Isnt it the same as this?? i mean the same ichigo repeated twice???

author: Djroman time: 2016-9-22 12:41:22

[email protected] replied at 2016-9-22 16:35
Isnt it the same as this?? i mean the same ichigo repeated twice???

Because there are also double ichigos in the game from before, In Current Void Region i had, i didnt get damage bonus where it was required character because i didnt have old golden ichigo kurosaki, took my a while to figure out why it wasnt working lol. then saw it in modify ..

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