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author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-27 20:11:04     Title: Zabimaru or Kazshini?

Have both, but Zabi seems better for the tank and I can live without the speed?

author: Sanket98    time: 2014-10-27 20:48:05

lol i got Hyorinmaru
author: TicklemyTit    time: 2014-10-27 20:55:42

Kazeshini for pvp and general use, zabimaru  for events
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-27 21:01:27

Sanket98 replied at 2014-10-27 19:48
lol i got Hyorinmaru

Which is useless in PvE and useless if you don't have a offensive VG with really high stones.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-27 21:02:51

TicklemyTit replied at 2014-10-27 19:55
Kazeshini for pvp and general use, zabimaru  for events

What he said.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-10-27 21:56:57

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-27 20:01
Which is useless in PvE and useless if you don't have a offensive VG with really high stones.



i was thinkin of usin stark as van in pve ryoka n spirit n see if he werks...

along wit hyorin ? but i guess i ll get lower dmg ...

stones arent tht high... just decent i guess...
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-10-27 22:25:36

PAOFUI replied at 2014-10-27 20:56
i was thinkin of usin stark as van in pve ryoka n spirit n see if he werks...

along wit hyorin ...

Using a Van in events is a bad idea, period.

You can surely use Hyorinmaru to reduce his damage debuff to zero, but you'll be sacrificing damage from all over the place instead.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-27 22:29:09

PAOFUI replied at 2014-10-27 20:56
i was thinkin of usin stark as van in pve ryoka n spirit n see if he werks...

along wit hyorin ...

Gonna kill your overall dmg if you do that.
author: YagamiLi    time: 2014-10-27 22:32:08

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-27 21:29
Gonna kill your overall dmg if you do that.

hyonimaru isn't useless with D rukia and white ichigo
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-27 22:37:40

does skill 9 and kaze stack?
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-27 22:41:11

YagamiLi replied at 2014-10-27 21:32
hyonimaru isn't useless with D rukia and white ichigo

Yes he is if you use a VG as your main point of dmg, with low stones. You don't use Hyonimaru on PvE events ever, period.

It will never beat Urahara/Rukia , Ikkaku/Main/Kenpachi(Ishida) with Zabi/Zangetsu/Sogyo

Also, very few have Dark Rukia, and nobody has white ichigo, nor will they anytime soon.
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-10-27 22:49:33

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-27 21:37
does skill 9 and kaze stack?

well namo and 9th skill stack because they are the same
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-10-27 23:15:16

YagamiLi replied at 2014-10-27 21:32
hyonimaru isn't useless with D rukia and white ichigo



how is tht so ? can u explain pls...

so u were sayin if i hav dark rukia n white ichigo... plus stark...

i ll do higher damage wit 1 3 1 ?
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-10-27 23:15:36

Edited by PAOFUI at 2014-10-27 22:18

well rite now...

i am using Main . Kenp . Ikka . Rukia . Kisuke . sk9 plus Zabi zank...

damage to ryoka i see ytd was at 9.3m per hit.
using Triple Crown title.


just wondering if... using Ice Title would gif me more dmg... but then i ll minus 20% crit tho...

which is better ?

author: YagamiLi    time: 2014-10-27 23:32:01

PAOFUI replied at 2014-10-27 22:15
well rite now...

i am using Main . Kenp . Ikka . Rukia . Kisuke . sk9 plus Zabi zank...


not saying you'll do higher dmg, just saying if you use a hyoninmaru its not worthless.

D rukia increases as.saulter attack rate by 12% and white ichigo increases assaul.ter attack rate by 25% + regens 35 fury, your vanguard won't have any dmg nerfs either.

best of the best of the best though..

sogyo for zan / D.rukia/shinso gin/se.xy yoruichi/ishhin kurosaki/main 8th skill
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-10-28 00:14:36


hics... i like ur idea... but thts a long way from home...

sexy yorui n isshin is not out yet n god knows how much they ll cost... n if its realli worth it vs the price tag...

but for now.. hyorin is for pvp mainly... n trials ...towers... palace n etc...

ryoka n spirit... zabi for now... till i find a better one...

i am more focus on PVE spirit n ryoka bcoz thts good way of earnin silver fast...

i am alwiz silver broke... hics... left 17k silver ytd... today i ll be around the same i guess...
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-28 00:31:19

YagamiLi replied at 2014-10-27 22:32
not saying you'll do higher dmg, just saying if you use a hyoninmaru its not worthless.

D rukia i ...

I think you mean Arrancar Gin, and he won't be available for a long long time, neither will Ishin, though I don't find him that strong so not sure why you put him on that list. Bikini Yoruichi (is what it's called) is also an Ultimate BP char, and also won't be seen for a very very long time. I play CN to, I know who's good and who's not. Sogyo is a decent Zan, but far from the best for PvE/PvP.
author: navalmar    time: 2014-10-28 00:54:03

Yup Sogyo is a decent zan but not the best ..

In general use .. Kaze is the best with 10th skill coz it give me power and a good speed specially in pvp

In PVE (ryoka&evil spirit) zabi is the best with 9th skill


Sogyo is good but if you zabi & kaze .. Its a waste ..

I will wait for zangetsu ... Hope it will come soon
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-10-28 02:49:06

Edited by Glasglow at 2014-10-28 01:55
YagamiLi replied at 2014-10-27 21:32
hyonimaru isn't useless with D rukia and white ichigo

For PvE he is and they are.

Dark Rukia was good when the Mods didn't exist, now she is more expenssive than normal rukia and harder to upkeep, because she does not get the +20 fury mod, so she needs a lot more fury stones.

And white Ichigo is a PvP partner, he is mediocre in PvE and white Ichigo will probably cost a fortune, something along the lines of 500$ again.

Also yes Kazeshini stacks with 9th skill, but Renji's buff doesn't.


author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-28 03:08:42

Glasglow replied at 2014-10-28 01:49
For PvE he is and they are.

Dark Rukia was good when the Mods didn't exist, now she is more expens ...

Better up that price on White Ichigo, he was on par with Demon Ichigo on CN, little less I think, around 150k gold....I don't remember exact figure.

I know Arrancar gin is also around 50k gold on CN atm.
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-10-28 05:42:15

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-28 02:08
Better up that price on White Ichigo, he was on par with Demon Ichigo on CN, little less I think,  ...

Ha, if white ichigo is as much as demon one, i wonder how much is his father, the new partner.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-10-28 06:00:17


well better start savin then on vits n watever it need to get it if u realli wan it...

xixixixi...


author: YagamiLi    time: 2014-10-28 16:37:07

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-27 23:31
I think you mean Arrancar Gin, and he won't be available for a long long time, neither will Ishin, ...


ishhin kurosaki 250% growth rate attack 100+ self fury regen +35% combo bonus

paried with the 8th skill, he can attack multiple times in one round, easily the best partner up to date

shinso gin and sexy yoruichi are the American translations
author: YagamiLi    time: 2014-10-28 16:39:06

Edited by YagamiLi at 2014-10-28 15:45
Glasglow replied at 2014-10-28 01:49
For PvE he is and they are.

Dark Rukia was good when the Mods didn't exist, now she is more expens ...


when you're able to 1shot ryokas it really doesn't matter who you use, Wiz hatake from eu 26 still uses a vg and demons curse for ryoka, probably unohana too, not sure :s
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-28 17:10:57

YagamiLi replied at 2014-10-28 15:37
ishhin kurosaki 250% growth rate attack 100+ self fury regen +35% combo bonus

paried with the 8th ...

Shinso isn't even an american word.

And he can't attack more than twice in one round, same as everyone else.
author: YagamiLi    time: 2014-10-28 18:38:33

Edited by YagamiLi at 2014-10-28 17:40
[email protected] replied at 2014-10-28 16:10
Shinso isn't even an american word.

And he can't attack more than twice in one round, same as eve ...


yes he can, that's what combo rate does, I don't think you watched the cn video of him.. he used his attack 3x in 1 round.

never encountered an opponent in trial that had "extra round"? it's the same thing

look at modification and see "shinso gin" In events tab
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-28 19:09:22

YagamiLi replied at 2014-10-28 17:38
yes he can, that's what combo rate does, I don't think you watched the cn video of him.. he used h ...

It's a misstranslation on his name.

Anyways' I've only seen 2 attacks from someone with an extra round, it happens with anyone with a combo chance, as well as the mains 8th skill.

Never seen a partner attack 3 times in one round. Didn't say it's not possible, said I haven't seen it.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-10-28 21:54:53


now tht might be another good strat of winnin a t1 fury...

if u get to hit 2 to 3x more than ur opponent...

need a lot of combo ? hrmmm how do u get more combos ?




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