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Title: Top-up is KILLING this game. [Print this page]
author: snow4life88    time: 2014-10-29 21:32:26     Title: Top-up is KILLING this game.

This is an epic game for bleach fans.  It is very enjoyable and doesn't seem to get old/repetitive (yet).  However, since joining Us30 the number of players has gone downhill rapidly.  Now there is talk of server merging to combat this.  This might only be a temporary solution.  People are leaving this game and will continue to do so because of the extremely unfair advantage you get from spending real money.  There is virtually no limit to the amount of money you can pour into this game.  There needs to be some kind of cap if it doesn't already exist or the current cap should be dramatically cut down.  I donated a little because I believe this game was designed well and I like to show appreciation but I am mostly a ''free to play'' player.  I believe there can be a much better balance that allows for a more competitive gameplay.  Or have you thought about this....how about a 'free to play' server only?  A server where you cannot top up.  Thoughts???
author: ahhhsome    time: 2014-10-29 22:35:11

who r u from s30
author: sohi00    time: 2014-10-29 22:35:55

not going to happen ^^
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-10-30 00:38:40

they should create a f2p server, so then all the free guys can play there and no complaints.
author: jordae    time: 2014-10-30 00:50:44

I'm not sure but i think servers cost them money, so they wont make a f2p server since it brings in nothing.
author: nieverland    time: 2014-10-30 01:00:07

Edited by nieverland at 2014-10-30 00:02

At all this kind of games forums allways the same question and the same answer, not gonna happen you think they do this game because they are Bleach fans "NO" ok, they work for free "NO" ok, so maybe the free players or low Vips like me dont get an f2p w/o top up serv is impossible, this is a bussines and w/o money profit they can close and open an new one, so the f2p serv is a dream for the players that want to be the best in this kind of games w/o spend some money to do that they can make the gold cheaper ofc and thats a great idea sadly i dont think that gonna happen and the only way IMO to play "fair" is an pay to play serv, maybe $5 or $10 per month isnt a lot of money and maybe they can get more players, anyway all the servs are f2p but p2w
author: nurul23495    time: 2014-10-30 01:43:38

ajoalex replied at 2014-10-29 23:38
they should create a f2p server, so then all the free guys can play there and no complaints.

yeah, f2p server for only f2p people and VIP server for VIP player.
Isn't that fair. Of course the VIP server should have a lot advantages since they paid for this.
Like in otome games, free version only hv 5 tickets to read 5 chapters and people who bought the games can read as long as they want including the spin-offs that they bought.
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-10-30 01:52:16

so you want them to make a sever( witch takes money) for f2p people for free? and think it would be fair, so getting coupons everyday and 36, or 18 or 12 or 3 isnt fair, or if there was a mod for your sever that would get 500 a month? witch would be fair to everyone else at that time how? when people make a game it might be free at first yes, but its still a P2w in the end no matter what, thats how they make the game better( some anyways), but you cant really just keep saying its not fair its a F2P, but they need to make it better so any really f2p is p2w game so either way its fair
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-10-30 01:55:46

like there is someone on my sever that is a F2P player and he is in the 10 ten and and keep up with me and someone else who is a P2W player so i really dont see the issue, yes they should cap the gold use for the events, but other then that its a game, and they need money to make stuff
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-30 02:00:35

No F2P server.

And no it's not. It's what keeps this game going, people topping up. Plenty are doing it obviously.
author: mazukazaru    time: 2014-10-30 05:35:57

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-30 09:00
No F2P server.

And no it's not. It's what keeps this game going, people topping up. Plenty are doin ...

Honestly i won't be topping up anymore, i'm from Eu S35, after i found out about the prices in CN i realised that Eu and Us servers are just being screwed over.
until they reduce the prices to be equal on both sides they shouldn't expect anything from me, but back to the topic of this post, if they make a free to play server it will only mean that other servers will have like no players because then they can all play on 1 server with the same battle power and be more of a game of who farms better. instead of being a P2W game
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-30 05:38:08

mazukazaru replied at 2014-10-30 04:35
Honestly i won't be topping up anymore, i'm from Eu S35, after i found out about the prices in CN  ...

Well, I understand that but they don't run CN servers, so they don't set it's prices. They are both licensed off whoever created the engine/game itself. I don't know what CN company.
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-10-30 05:45:18

Edited by Glasglow at 2014-10-30 05:03

Doubt they will change the prices, we have higher living standarts than in China and higher average wagers (x4 times higher in US and some of Europe) , thus the reason our prices are steeped up and we do not have as many players as China does, so they want to get more profit out of less population, maximize the profit.

Its business really, yeah it sucks that some prices are just too crazy , like 400$ for an Event partner, but there is little you can do about it.
And i do totally agree, that if prices were accessible, this game would have had much more success, the company would have had much better standings with its community and more people would top up and play it if we had prices - like 20-30$ for an Event Partner, instead of 400$, then they would see like almost everyone running around with those partners, and not just 1-2 people on a server (if any on some servers, for example on EU1 we have not one single Hyorinmaru but if Hyorinmaru was like 30$, i would have gotten him myself for sure, and a dozen of other players too, but instead there is not even 1 and they made zero profit off him on our server).

How could have they managed to do it? Well one eays solution would have been, to make the 500 gold packs give 5000 crystal fragments intead of 500, then 3-4 packs would get your the zanpakutou, and they would have had so many people spending gold on it.

The basic math and success to business is - 500 happy costumers = good business and not 10 not very happy costumers and 490 angry ones.

And you also have to take the demographics into account, US and EU are very different. Us has a high average wager across most of the US states, but in Europe, very few select contries have the same living standarts as US does, so in fact, 70-80% of the EU population cannot aford these prices.

EDIT: Sorry, this turned out into more of a rant than a simple "Well prices are higher, what can you do about it" lol
author: onkas07    time: 2014-10-30 06:57:36

They say "Bleach Online - Play Free RPG Game at GoGames.me". It explains everything.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-30 08:20:02

nurul23495 replied at 2014-10-30 00:43
yeah, f2p server for only f2p people and VIP server for VIP player.
Isn't that fair. Of course the ...

not gonna happen :p nurul vip player?
author: teamjeru    time: 2014-10-30 11:57:40

sounds like you have sand in your V op
author: liftan    time: 2014-10-30 12:50:23

It's a game about a popular shonen anime, of course its pay to win. I really don't know what you were expecting since all these guys want it money and they are getting it.
author: Brahmastra    time: 2014-10-30 13:08:24

As long as people are willing to pay $200+ for 1 single character why lower?
Eventually these prices will backfire on them so they must lower them, don't expect that any time soon though.
By then they have already cashed in so they can do whatever with the prices.
author: Shiba_Isshin    time: 2014-10-30 14:01:00

just be happy if you pay through paypal..

if you know about paypal's policies on intangible items.. you wont care about how much you pay.. you can get every red cent back..
author: chamsdar    time: 2014-10-30 15:00:32

ajoalex replied at 2014-10-29 23:38
they should create a f2p server, so then all the free guys can play there and no complaints.

are you joking. do you even have a job? what you are saying is that you should go to work for free!
the developers need to make a living like all of us, and as everythingswrong says lots of people topping up that's why its still running and supported!
author: nurul23495    time: 2014-10-31 00:41:56

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-30 07:20
not gonna happen :p nurul vip player?

nope. didn't hv that money to spend lah.
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-10-31 01:30:56

chamsdar replied at 2014-10-31 00:00
are you joking. do you even have a job? what you are saying is that you should go to work for free ...

yes i am joking, yes i have a job, BUT yes you need to know what sarcasm is. do you have a job btw?
author: chamsdar    time: 2014-10-31 17:16:20

ajoalex replied at 2014-10-31 00:30
yes i am joking, yes i have a job, BUT yes you need to know what sarcasm is. do you have a job btw ...

come to US 13 and find out
author: Robenator    time: 2014-10-31 17:41:52

Top up is the only reason this game exists.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-11-1 16:14:47

mazukazaru replied at 2014-10-30 04:35
Honestly i won't be topping up anymore, i'm from Eu S35, after i found out about the prices in CN  ...

high 5 dude :p
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-11-1 16:20:18

nurul23495 replied at 2014-10-30 23:41
nope. didn't hv that money to spend lah.

ahhhhh :p
author: Xcution12    time: 2014-11-1 16:22:37

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-1 16:14
high 5 dude :p

topping up is the only way ppl r gunna b able to get alot of stones......................................
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-11-1 16:28:38

Xcution12 replied at 2014-11-1 15:22
topping up is the only way ppl r gunna b able to get alot of stones............................... ...

not necessarily. i could get 10-20 lvl 3 stones in ryoka event per day. but its random, currently i got 1k epic chest and thousands of unused materials..
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-11-1 16:33:07

Xcution12 replied at 2014-11-1 15:22
topping up is the only way ppl r gunna b able to get alot of stones............................... ...

ryoka drops a lot of stones x.x i made 3 lvl 5 block stones from that
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-11-1 16:35:42

Xcution12 replied at 2014-11-1 15:35
i meant for ppl who cant get the kills cuz of higher lvls

hmm you people who still have purple names? because they get kills too
author: Xcution12    time: 2014-11-1 16:35:52

ShawnTheWolf replied at 2014-11-1 16:33
ryoka drops a lot of stones x.x i made 3 lvl 5 block stones from that

i meant for ppl who cant get the kills cuz of higher lvls
author: Xcution12    time: 2014-11-1 16:38:00

ShawnTheWolf replied at 2014-11-1 16:35
hmm you people who still have purple names? because they get kills too

in US S23 theres a lvl 106 or 107 who takes all the kills and the others r barely able to get a kills since this guy almost oneshots the ryoka
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-11-1 16:41:03

Xcution12 replied at 2014-11-1 15:38
in US S23 theres a lvl 106 or 107 who takes all the kills and the others r barely able to get a ki ...

dang that sucks x/x
author: Xcution12    time: 2014-11-1 16:42:39

ShawnTheWolf replied at 2014-11-1 16:41
dang that sucks x/x

yea ikr                        
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-11-1 16:43:08

Xcution12 replied at 2014-11-1 15:42
yea ikr

im sorry for that x.x
author: Xcution12    time: 2014-11-1 16:44:50

ShawnTheWolf replied at 2014-11-1 16:43
im sorry for that x.x

tnx tho sometimes we lower lvls (tho ima lvl 86) get lucky nt all the time tho and it doesnt help the matter tht he is a red quality
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-11-1 16:49:05

Xcution12 replied at 2014-11-1 15:44
tnx tho sometimes we lower lvls (tho ima lvl 86) get lucky nt all the time tho and it doesnt help  ...

its ok i am 85 i have to fight with 89, 88, 86 people who are all high damage dealers
author: Xcution12    time: 2014-11-1 16:50:51

ShawnTheWolf replied at 2014-11-1 16:49
its ok i am 85 i have to fight with 89, 88, 86 people who are all high damage dealers

after vit collect and gw illl b a lvl 87
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-11-1 16:52:42

Xcution12 replied at 2014-11-1 15:50
after vit collect and gw illl b a lvl 87

i might be 87 in two days v.v, maybe 6
author: Xcution12    time: 2014-11-1 16:55:45

ShawnTheWolf replied at 2014-11-1 16:52
i might be 87 in two days v.v, maybe 6

i lvl up fast i have alrdy passed players who have played longer thn me in lvl in S23
author: Xcution12    time: 2014-11-1 16:58:10

ShawnTheWolf replied at 2014-11-1 16:58
:p how do you lvl fast lol

buying vit etc plus i play all the time when im nt at school
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-11-1 16:58:49

Xcution12 replied at 2014-11-1 15:55
i lvl up fast i have alrdy passed players who have played longer thn me in lvl in S23

:p how do you lvl fast lol
author: Vegerunks    time: 2014-11-1 17:00:31

There is no cap because they request that you spend over $500 US Dollars every event for the Real reward. Captain Shinji for example cost 22250 Gold after doing as much as possible for free that's about $400. Hyorinmaru cost about $25000 after doing as much as possible for free.

To buy the Deed for the Manor cost $75 US Dollars(3000 gold) This game is not F2P if you want anything considered good.
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-11-1 17:03:04

Xcution12 replied at 2014-11-1 15:58
buying vit etc plus i play all the time when im nt at school

oh i see ><
author: Xcution12    time: 2014-11-1 17:09:51

ShawnTheWolf replied at 2014-11-1 17:03
oh i see >

wut vegerunks said is true cuz in an old server i used to play in i had stacked ovr 5k vit from bg and buying vit and daily gf partying
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-11-1 17:11:50

Xcution12 replied at 2014-11-1 16:09
wut vegerunks said is true cuz in an old server i used to play in i had stacked ovr 5k vit from bg ...

o.o 5k really
author: Xcution12    time: 2014-11-1 17:13:40

ShawnTheWolf replied at 2014-11-1 17:11
o.o 5k really

yea rlly b cuz i had saved ovr 2400 gold and bought vit evryday and etc but finally quit since my account was hacked
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-11-1 17:19:22

Xcution12 replied at 2014-11-1 16:13
yea rlly b cuz i had saved ovr 2400 gold and bought vit evryday and etc but finally quit since my  ...

aw that sucks
author: Xcution12    time: 2014-11-1 17:21:52

ShawnTheWolf replied at 2014-11-1 17:19
aw that sucks

yea ikr and iu think it is ovr the maintence is i mean (idk i think)
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-11-1 17:23:10

Xcution12 replied at 2014-11-1 16:21
yea ikr and iu think it is ovr the maintence is i mean (idk i think)

maybe, but i guess we will find out
author: ShawnTheWolf    time: 2014-11-1 17:23:40

Xcution12 replied at 2014-11-1 16:24
yep i am playing in US23 right now

oh nice, :p
author: Xcution12    time: 2014-11-1 17:24:40

ShawnTheWolf replied at 2014-11-1 17:23
maybe, but i guess we will find out

yep i am playing in US23 right now
author: spatacus12345    time: 2014-11-2 20:21:08

How the hell is this game not repetitive when all you do is refresh a page and do dallies?
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-11-3 02:41:09

and some people still think money grows on trees f2p, LOL

get your head from your butt, to host any games, you need money DUH, or have u yet to know wtf a BILL is, quit living off your parent pocket and get a job then understand wtf money is
it's the cashier who puts there foot in the bills for other leecher to play duh

so get out your fantasy free world and come back to reailty
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-11-3 11:16:35

in any game is not gonna happen lol
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-11-3 13:17:18

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-11-3 12:18

I dont know what the big deal is to be honest, other than people who don't donate regularly get mad about those who do.... I even got some wanting me banned for being VIP and being a PGm.... it's not like they can't top-up themselves, or buy a couple vip levels it's not that hard they probably spend more cash complaining than enjoying the game.

thank god the mergers and xserver fights are close to being here... can only hope that it balances servers where people wont be crying about the VIP members so much
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-11-3 13:38:19

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-3 12:17
I dont know what the big deal is to be honest, other than people who don't donate regularly get mad  ...


lol.... trust me... there will still be all this cryin n complainin rite after server merge... about vips n so on...

its nothin new...
author: BasuraDesechable    time: 2014-11-4 12:07:43

They could use the F2P server as a testbed.

Test all game changes with F2P players, kind of a beta, and apply those changes to the paying customers when they work properly.

They get free testers, F2P players get to play for free, Cashers get a more polished game and less failures. Everybody wins.

But then Cashers would cry because they don't have F2P players to crush with their wallets.
author: wxhxly    time: 2014-11-4 14:30:55

chamsdar replied at 2014-10-30 14:00
are you joking. do you even have a job? what you are saying is that you should go to work for free ...

that is cool
author: ShadowCharmer    time: 2014-11-4 20:11:35

This is still a fun game anyways
author: boringstuff    time: 2014-11-5 01:47:48

topup is the only thing keeping the game alive , literally
author: Lord_Rhygar    time: 2014-11-6 16:00:11

It's not top up that's killing the game, it's the prices.
If I remember correctly, CN servers get THREE TIMES (3x)!!! the gold we do for buying. On top of that, their event partners/zanpakutos are much cheaper. Remember Shinji? 20,000 gold (more if unlucky, less if very lucky). Barely anyone at all bought that whatsoever. However, if gold was priced the same as CN, and partners were priced the same as well (6k gold-10k gold), a lot more people would have bought Shinji. If they were even cheaper than that, you'd have EVEN MORE buyers! It's time to stop price gouging, gogames. I am prepared to spend a lot more if the prices for gold and partners/zans matched those above or better, but I don't think I will if they remain the same, as I don't feel that I am getting good value for my dollar. I didn't spend any of my gold for any of the halloween events except a hundred or so on the tree. The partner was RIDICULOUSLY overpriced, and the title was competitive spending against other players: no thanks. Come to think of it maybe even the tree was overpriced too for what you got out of it

I really can't say this enough, but I will keep trying, because this game would do so much better with reasonable pricing.



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