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author: ajoalex    time: 2014-11-5 00:47:52     Title: Yoruichi and Momo combo?

I am lvl 69, will recruit sajin when i hit lvl 70 and replace chad with him. My formation would then be Sajin - Main/Ichigo - Momo/Rukia
I was thinking about the yoruichi/momo combo, stun supporter/assaulter hence making it a 1-1-3 formation.

I will be farming for gold reishi after getting sajin(i will have 500 gold reishi after getting sajin) ie, i wont be getting the second gold player soon. So i have enough time to farm for WIS,AGI for yoruichi if so. If i go with 1-1-3 then i would upgrade momo partner to tier3 else i wouldn't.

Is that a good choice or should i keep ichi and swap momo with yoruichi? Again this will be kept in mind after getting sajin, so till i get the reishi for another gold partner i won't be changing my 1-2-2 formation with Sajin - Main/Ichigo - Momo/Rukia. Just thinking ahead to farm accordingly ie.

thanks

author: seremz2    time: 2014-11-5 08:31:31

At your level, better get yoruichi first better than sajin, why ? Since if you talked about pve dailies,  yoru deals more more damage than momo (not because of skill but of growth rate) and you can't level up your sajin anyway since he won't be at your pve team, i beat espada 4 with yoru inoue main renji chad
Oh and ofcourse, it's better idea to replace ichigo with renji
author: chunyiung    time: 2014-11-5 08:51:05

um..this is the line up im using in PVE events.
rukia,nanase,main,renji and rangiku. i was wondering what to replace if i reach lvl 70 and get yoruichi
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-11-5 12:13:09

seremz2 replied at 2014-11-5 17:31
At your level, better get yoruichi first better than sajin, why ? Since if you talked about pve dail ...

i am still using ichigo as he attacks the assaulters. i was going with a 1-3-1 formation and decided to swap lisa with renji but now i changed it to a 1-2-2 and its working out better for me, hence i keep ichigo .

pve like guild, seretei , ryoka is at my 5am morning time, and i have done it just thrice(yes only 3 times till now). so most of the time i spend is for pvp and evil spirit events. but yes i am now waking up in the morning to try out the guild events lol. so yes yoruichi would fit. just that i dont have enough gold to buy two sajin and yoruichi and was wondering if i would buy just one now and the second one when i get the next 1000 reishi.  my vg is kinda low on HP, stays for 4 rounds minimum, so sajin looks like a better option .

but yes i will go for yoruichi, just that how would it be to have just a MAIN and 3 supporters? i dont see any soul skill that hits the supporters so if i have my supporters all offensive wouldn't that be a good option?

thanks
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-11-5 12:20:56

Honestly, from personal experience, Yoruichi is only good in PvE, in PvP she has little use to me at least, so unless you are can't kill espada 3, yoruichi is not mandatory.
author: seremz2    time: 2014-11-5 12:26:10

ajoalex replied at 2014-11-5 11:13
i am still using ichigo as he attacks the assaulters. i was going with a 1-3-1 formation and decid ...

1st, offensive support is a bad idea, role of support is not damage dealing anyway
2nd, most ppl saying that getting sajin first is a must because he is needed for lvl 75 trial, instances, palace, espada, etc, but i should disagree with them since i got yoruichi, and finished espada already (level 72 bp 159k)
3rd, assuming you could finish all above with just yoruichi, you won't need sajin anyway UNLESS you want to get stronger at pvp
4th, evil spirit is one of the greatest event to offer EXP and SILVER too, okay i won't argue if there are ppl saying that yoruichi is useless in daily event, but in terms of lvl 70, even yoruichi is far better than momo, and the upside is, your yoruichi will get the exp you need from the pve event, unlike sajin which will be exchanged by your assaulter at every pve event

but of course, if you say that now vanguard is your priority because you got a low hp on your vg, it is wise to get sajin first since it will greatly benefit your pvp
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-11-5 13:32:04

seremz2 replied at 2014-11-5 21:26
1st, offensive support is a bad idea, role of support is not damage dealing anyway
2nd, most ppl s ...

i used to have nemu, after that i havent had a healer as i didn't feel like getting one.
i am lvl 69, 223k bp, in arena the guys above me are of lvl 80+ . and i am doing quite good for a damage dealing support(momo/rukia)
if i get the lvl 70 gear (which i am farming for) i will be a lot stronger.

i was thinking of a gold vg as i have a gold lvl 80 hogu which ichi is wearing, and i thought since chad cant become gold, i would rather give it to sajin considering sajin is a significantly much much better tank than chad.

btw i will consider yoruichi once i get my next set of 1000 reishis after sajin as i need a better tank very badly(i am fighting against all sajins only )

thanks for the tips
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-11-5 13:33:57

Glasglow replied at 2014-11-5 21:20
Honestly, from personal experience, Yoruichi is only good in PvE, in PvP she has little use to me at ...

who else were your supporters when you killed espada 3?
thanks
author: seremz2    time: 2014-11-5 15:00:48

Glasglow replied at 2014-11-5 11:20
Honestly, from personal experience, Yoruichi is only good in PvE, in PvP she has little use to me at ...

lol actually you can't kill espada 3 if there is no yoru in your formation except only if you got ukitake which is useless in another thing except espada 3, oh maybe you can kill espada 3 without yoruichi if you are level 100++ already
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-11-5 15:02:19

seremz2 replied at 2014-11-6 00:00
lol actually you can't kill espada 3 if there is no yoru in your formation except only if you got  ...

in that case then my second gold partner will be yoruichi .

btw what is this espada 3, is it a level in trial?
author: KHONHAX    time: 2014-11-5 15:04:57

ajoalex replied at 2014-11-5 22:02
in that case then my second gold partner will be yoruichi .

btw what is this espada 3, is it a l ...

After you get to lv70 Hollow Soul Map opens up.   Espada 3 is the 2nd series of challenges.   1v1 minion fight then 5v5 team battle.   3 times per espada.   After you beat the set, you can claim 10 free hollow souls daily for that espada.   You trade those in to boost your stats.   
author: seremz2    time: 2014-11-5 15:08:32

ajoalex replied at 2014-11-5 14:02
in that case then my second gold partner will be yoruichi .

btw what is this espada 3, is it a l ...

You'll see it soon enough when you reach 70, and it is one of the most important interfacw that will give you plenty of status, but if you have that much bp, get sajin and espada #4 will be down in no time, but better to have a healer there, you'll need it, trust me

author: ajoalex    time: 2014-11-5 15:09:51

KHONHAX replied at 2014-11-6 00:04
After you get to lv70 Hollow Soul Map opens up.   Espada 3 is the 2nd series of challenges.   1v1  ...

Aha, interesting. I need to get to 70 now

thanks man
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-11-5 18:49:34

seremz2 replied at 2014-11-5 14:00
lol actually you can't kill espada 3 if there is no yoru in your formation except only if you got  ...

I've heard from several people that they passed it without yoruichi, just needs high bp.
author: KelisTormoris    time: 2014-11-5 19:28:23

seremz2 replied at 2014-11-5 14:00
lol actually you can't kill espada 3 if there is no yoru in your formation except only if you got  ...

dont lie.

Lvl81, BP 270-280k
Team: Sajin/main/ikkaku/Rukia/Orihime

Passed no bother when i made sure everyone attacked in right order and had right skill. Infact passed before people on higher BP, higher lvl, that had Yoruichi.


author: seremz2    time: 2014-11-5 20:03:43

KelisTormoris replied at 2014-11-5 18:28
dont lie.

Lvl81, BP 270-280k

yeah but better drop that supporter as well since they won't get any turn
author: KelisTormoris    time: 2014-11-5 20:37:39

why wont supporters get a turn? 100% starting fury and they done their job.  (this assumes you win the 1vs1!)
Ikkaku fastest, means he will always have stun protection
Main second - putting protection up
Rukia/Sajin speed not matter too much
Orihime is key to sort her speed correctly. Make Sure she is SLOWER than the enemy but not so slow Sajin dies if yours is weaker.

This means Orihime heals the 1st round damage on Sajin (well as much as she can), and rukia gives the extra fury to main and ikkaku. keeps your vg up longer. If your main/Ikkaku combo does not have enough damage then yes, drop rukia for another assaulter for the stun immunity they will gain, but make sure they FASTER than your main else it possible their immunity will drop before it refreshed and they get stunned.

It would likely be better to have that other assaulter as it makes it easier, but i didnt have the gear for one and had a way worked out to win anyways

author: ajoalex    time: 2014-11-5 21:46:57

well i can try without yoruichi first and see how it goes. i am 50k less of what you have, i have 220k bp, lvl 69. i will give it a try when i reach lvl 70 and see how it goes.

thanks
author: seremz2    time: 2014-11-5 22:01:41

KelisTormoris replied at 2014-11-5 19:37
why wont supporters get a turn? 100% starting fury and they done their job.  (this assumes you win t ...

Well, didn't know you are 80 already, i'm at 75 and having 220k bp only when fighting harribel, using 3-1-1 yoru-inoue-momo-main ghost blade-sajin
Momo and yoru stun all the way in the fight and that's it, just have to rng it and eventually harribel will be down




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