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author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-9 13:42:26 Title: Cross Server Battle - Super Challenger(WHAT THE??)

okay whats the deal with this, and why do you get 0/3 attempts and it wanting 200g... seriously give us at least 1 free attempt then charge for the other attempts! I sure ain't going to waste 200g on something I have no clue of what it does, may just be something to eat your gold and give you nothing in return like some other stuff on the game..... if your going to put something like that in at least let people try it before asking them for basically $5 of their hard earned cash.

author: KelisTormoris time: 2014-11-9 16:15:28

It will give you a random person to fight, could be a 1million bp person.
If you win the fight you get a significant reward or some such crap

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-9 16:50:18

lol, funny

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-9 17:50:38

well "tigerx" you have nothing to complain about when you exploit the CSB...choosing only your vanguard, main, and 1 support for your whole formation just so you can get a lower set of challengers...how pathetic

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-9 18:09:18

i did't get challenge i was asking if some one know about it but no one answer me

author: theasom3 time: 2014-11-9 18:20:17

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-9 16:50
well "tigerx" you have nothing to complain about when you exploit the CSB...choosing only your vangu ...

Its not pathetic...its a legit strategy people use...and even if he gets lower challengers it doesnt really do any thing the the people he challenges or the people challenging him...

author: Tarush time: 2014-11-9 18:29:22

theasom3 replied at 2014-11-9 17:20
Its not pathetic...its a legit strategy people use...and even if he gets lower challengers it does ...

Actually it does. If someone with an entire team at 200k bp is facing someone with 200k bp in their 3 partners, who do you think wins? Obviously the person that registered with a full team is going to be lower level in all regards and has no chance. That hurts other players and it is something that needs to be corrected. 2 players have encountered this so far. It's not a legitimate strategy, it's a **** move (you can fill in the blank with whatever you feel fits) that should have been prevented by the developers.

author: Spazmodia time: 2014-11-9 18:32:26

Legit... hmmm.... not exactly how I would describe a strategy that involves gaming the system so that you deliberately fight weaker opponents. This is the video game equivalent of deliberately failing tests to be placed in easier classes, so that you appear smarter than those around you. Keyword there: appear.

author: theasom3 time: 2014-11-9 21:09:06

Spazmodia replied at 2014-11-9 17:32
Legit... hmmm.... not exactly how I would describe a strategy that involves gaming the system so tha ...

I dont think you understand what legit means lol, it is a LEGIT STRATEGY THAT DOES NOT BREAK ANY RULES, lowering your self to fight weaker opponents IS a strategy...the game is already not fair with the whole pay to win thing so i dont see how this is "unfair"

author: theasom3 time: 2014-11-9 21:10:07

Tarush replied at 2014-11-9 17:29
Actually it does. If someone with an entire team at 200k bp is facing someone with 200k bp in thei ...

a **** move is still a strategy and is no way unfair...the people with lower bps can too lower them self if they felt like...

author: Lord_Rhygar time: 2014-11-9 21:31:51

theasom3 replied at 2014-11-9 18:09
I dont think you understand what legit means lol, it is a LEGIT STRATEGY THAT DOES NOT BREAK ANY R ...

I'm not taking any sides here, but your definition doesn't mean anything at all.
Just because something doesn't break any rules at the time of its conception doesn't mean it's completely fair play.
Look up "exploit".

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-9 21:49:48

theasom3 replied at 2014-11-9 20:09
I dont think you understand what legit means lol, it is a LEGIT STRATEGY THAT DOES NOT BREAK ANY R ...

It is officially a legit strat, it's not breaking any rules.

People who do this get less rewards and less points than what they would if they was in their normal bracket.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-9 21:50:55

Lord_Rhygar replied at 2014-11-9 20:31
I'm not taking any sides here, but your definition doesn't mean anything at all.
Just because som ...

It's a very common strat on CN. Nets you far less points but you win.

author: Lord_Rhygar time: 2014-11-9 22:20:38

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-9 18:50
It's a very common strat on CN. Nets you far less points but you win.

Well there you go, guess it's legit then. Sucks for the lower players though... again.

author: seraf2 time: 2014-11-9 22:28:50

thats just pathetic, who cares about winning XD, i wanna fight the strongest and lose so i can find a way to beat them. currently have not lost in my cbs bracket

author: inSec time: 2014-11-9 22:40:01

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-9 21:50
It's a very common strat on CN. Nets you far less points but you win.

its less tokens per lane yes but if they can't clear 3 lanes in their own bp range then its better to reg naked and farm will get way more tokens. And those that do reg naked to get into the lower brackets should reg naked everyday going forward till they reach their own BP range as to not mess up lower players day.

author: Tarush time: 2014-11-9 23:53:32

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-9 20:50
It's a very common strat on CN. Nets you far less points but you win.

So please explain the significance of these "points". Getting 175 challenge stones and being a slimeball or get zero because you believe people should play fairly. Hmmm...I'd rather have my honor in tact. I can not take advantage of a system to beat up on players that are weaker than me. I also know the only reason the one person did it was because he knows he'd get CLOBBERED if he actually had to face anyone with the same bp as him. So it is a chicken shit thing to do.

That's like saying, "Everyone else is cheating, so it's the only way I can compete." Yeah, that worked out well for Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire, eh?

author: xCrAz3dAnIm3fAnX time: 2014-11-10 00:41:42

lol i got 0 system isnt fair at all couldent beat the last 2 on bottom row such bull it is

author: Leitzur time: 2014-11-10 01:27:19

when we were challanged and beaten by others, will our points decrease?

and also, do we and opponents got to fight with each other?

for example: at our 3rd lane map we have player named A. Do A have us at the 3rd lane too?

author: theasom3 time: 2014-11-10 19:07:53

Leitzur replied at 2014-11-10 00:27
when we were challanged and beaten by others, will our points decrease?

no and no

author: theasom3 time: 2014-11-10 19:08:40

Lord_Rhygar replied at 2014-11-9 20:31
I'm not taking any sides here, but your definition doesn't mean anything at all.
Just because som ...

a legit strategy is one that doesn't break any rules which WAS in my definition

author: Lord_Rhygar time: 2014-11-10 20:10:20

theasom3 replied at 2014-11-10 16:08
a legit strategy is one that doesn't break any rules which WAS in my definition

Taken from the definition of "exploit" straight from wikipedia:

"Taking advantage of the systems that make up the gameplay. A game mechanics exploit is not a bug—it is working as designed, but at the same time is not working as intended. An example is the "wavedash" in Super Smash Bros. Melee, where the momentum gained from using a directional aerial dodge could be retained on landing; with proper timing this allows characters to use a stationary attack while sliding across the ground.
Each game has potential for exploits unique to that game's rules. For example, in World of Warcraft, wall-walking allowed a player to climb steep mountains that are supposed to be impassable to get into unfinished areas or make one's character not attackable by mobs or other players. EverQuest had an exploit in player versus player analogous to weight cutting in sports whereby a player would intentionally lose levels by dying in order to compete against lower-level players while wielding higher-level items and skills (game mechanics exploit). In the game City of Heroes people were using teleport powers to place others inside the PvP zones' watchtowers which, originally designed as props for atmosphere, had no way in or out if you could not teleport (the towers have since gained a doorway)."

Notice the Everquest exploit is pretty much the exact same thing players are doing here in this game. But, because developers ALLOW it here, it's a legitimate strategy. If they didn't, it would be an exploit.

author: theasom3 time: 2014-11-10 20:39:31

Lord_Rhygar replied at 2014-11-10 19:10
Taken from the definition of "exploit" straight from wikipedia:

"Taking advantage of the systems ...

exactly what ive beed saying basicly lol, it IS allowed here as there are NO rules against it making it legit

author: Lord_Rhygar time: 2014-11-10 21:56:12

theasom3 replied at 2014-11-10 17:39
exactly what ive beed saying basicly lol, it IS allowed here as there are NO rules against it maki ...

Yes, the moderator confirmed it's allowed here, I never said it wasn't, hence why my first post said "I'm not taking any sides".
I was just saying your definition doesn't always mean these kinds of tactics are innocent in video games, that's all

author: theasom3 time: 2014-11-10 23:00:30

Lord_Rhygar replied at 2014-11-10 20:56
Yes, the moderator confirmed it's allowed here, I never said it wasn't, hence why my first post sa ...

haha alright i just wanted to let him/other people know this isnt "cheating" or what ever he called it and its fair use >.<

author: Leitzur time: 2014-11-10 23:42:19

Edited by Leitzur at 2014-11-10 22:50

theasom3 replied at 2014-11-10 18:07
no and no

theasom3, thank you for answering. i relieved hearing that.

about the unfairness and unbalanced in cross server battle, it seems the theory is like this:

for example: if you have pure bp of 350k you will challange ppl with bp around 300k-400k. (the opponent's bp shown at the CSB is bp after reiatsu, which can be seen when you do alliance blood battle)

if you're lucky you get weaker opponents. the reiatsu is like that too. my rei is lv35 and sometimes i got to challange ppl with 30 rei, sometimes around 35 and 36.
and the lineup for cross server battle is likely to be random too. like, at top and 2nd line they have weaker opponent than bottom or 3rd line. of course, if you can't clear bottom ones, getting weaker opponents at top line means nothing.

and, we get to fight someone with higher ranks. my rank is C but I got rank B at top line before (his BP is little higher than me, he is quite strong to be one of B ranks).

about the 2nd day onwards, i wonder if we are arranged to fight the opponents with similar points.

i have question myself, after cross-server battle's season ended, can we keep both of the tokens and challange points or just either one of them?

author: theasom3 time: 2014-11-11 15:31:33

Leitzur replied at 2014-11-10 22:42
theasom3, thank you for answering. i relieved hearing that.

about the unfairness and unbalanced in ...

Tokens are kept, they are an item in ur inventory, points reset after each season so after the first season, your points will be re-evaluated and you will once again be put in ranks (sss,ss,s,a,b,c,d)

author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-13 13:24:16

what exactly is this super challenge? i clicked on it, 200g and i get 4 opponents, i defeated them. now what? i thought it was some option to replace an opponent in a lane whom i cant defeat, so what exactly is this super challenge?

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-11-13 13:27:39

how much points u get from 1 challenge ? or 1 opponent ?

i super gets u 4 opponents...

just wonderin if u can share how many points u get each n per super...

thanx

author: Glasglow time: 2014-11-13 13:59:11

You guys, obviously did not read the CSB guide.

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-11-13 14:03:05

ermmm i guess i din realli read it...

wakakakakakakakakaka....

so can u tell me about super challenge... coz i am gettin peanut points from doin 1...

which i dun think its worth it...

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-13 17:33:28

PAOFUI replied at 2014-11-13 13:03
ermmm i guess i din realli read it...

wakakakakakakakakaka....

super challenge is a waste of time and gold... tried it no significant reward (no stones and little to no shinigami tokens)

Kenpachi_chua thanks for the QQ your tears sustain me (and FYI an exploit is knowedgably exploiting a loophole which I had no idea of and am still using only 3 partners as it helped me drop arena rank and get away from the 100% fury rate people and now I am able to slave others and level easier) I suggest you grow up and stop stalking me and QQing about everything or move on or play the game and have fun like everyone else, have a good day.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-13 18:16:29

difficult to have fun when you have some wannabe "pgm" spouting off at the mouth daily... you're telling ME to grow up? how about you take your own advice there

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-13 20:04:28

k well im fed up with you trolling all of my posts, read your ToS your clearly violating it. Mmmkay buhbye

author: Tarush time: 2014-11-13 20:15:11

Hello? Pot? This is kettle...

But what are they going to do to fix CSB since some servers were still able to do it, but many other will not be able to. Even if they get it running with the next hour, that only gives people 1 hr 45 mins to complete it. Most people have lives and can't keep checking back here to see when GoGames plans on bringing this wonderfully delightful experience to an end.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-13 20:29:40

theasom3 replied at 2014-11-9 21:10
a **** move is still a strategy and is no way unfair...the people with lower bps can too lower the ...

Start the event later than everyone to start at the lowest group and work your way up. When you remove your team before register, that is being a jerk and you are ruining ppl chances that are lower than you in level. That's all that is, it isn't strategy. That shouldn't be possible in CSB or Arena.
Strategy would be based on: statistics, formation, partners, accessories, gear, hogu, hogyoku, reiatsu and zanpakuto, as well as plans to obtain those mentioned..which battles you should do daily in order to gain exp, silver, and souls. Choosing which skill and combination of previous other factors to obtain victory..THAT is STRATEGY.

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-11-13 21:02:31

ermmm i dun understan realli how this system in CSB works...

ok lets say i register wit a 3 man team n then i put my full team back after i register ... so when ppl battle me in CSB... r they facing my 3 man team... or do they face my full team instead ?

so wat do u actually fight ? the opponent team when he register... or the current team he is usin ?

so for example again... lets say i register full team for CSB ... n then i change my formation to PVE bcoz of event... n of coz my PVE team is weaker....
so if someone were to hit me during i am doin my PVE... will they face my PVE team instead ? or face the team tht i register for CSB ?

this is somethin still confusing me...

anyone who is kind enuf to upate me on this ?

author: KelisTormoris time: 2014-11-13 23:50:08

it the team when you register. was testing it today to be sure.

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-11-14 00:39:01

KelisTormoris replied at 2014-11-13 22:50
it the team when you register. was testing it today to be sure.

so i can regis weaker team .... so tht others can beat me easily.. ?

so if everyday u register nekkid ? then oppent hits u nekkid even u put back ur gears after u regis

author: KelisTormoris time: 2014-11-14 07:43:09

yep, not many do so though ;(

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-14 13:47:28

if you register with 3 players your stuck with that, if you register naked partners/player same thing, it does not change what you had on/zanpakuto/BP ect after registration... if you register weaker you get hit as that (you register 2 players someone attacks only hits 2 players regardless if you change formation therefore they get easy win) I do it to stay out of top 10 in arena where the 100% fury rate people are so I dont get permaslaved and can still pick up slaves so I can level easier, Granted when I accept experience from slaves ect, burn vital, or do PVE stuff (Ryoka/Evil Spirit) I equip all partners so they all level up but as soon as that is over and I am doing nil I automatically drop back to a minimal 3 player formation just enough to keep people from passing me easily but dropping out of veiw of those who have spent $1000 or more so I can still have fun in the game build win streaks ect.

author: theasom3 time: 2014-11-14 15:38:47

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-13 19:29
Start the event later than everyone to start at the lowest group and work your way up. When you re ...

WRONG
strategy - a plan of action or policy designed to achieve a major or overall aim
registering at a lower bp IS a plan or action to ACHIEVE A OVERALL AIM of winning and getting challenge stones..please use ur incompetent brain before stating something while being ignorant of what youre tring to say...changing formation partners and ect is METHOD not STRATEGY

author: theasom3 time: 2014-11-14 15:39:43

PAOFUI replied at 2014-11-13 23:39
so i can regis weaker team .... so tht others can beat me easily.. ?

so if everyday u register ...

yes but opponents beating you doesn't do anything to effect you

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-14 15:52:03

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-14 12:47
if you register with 3 players your stuck with that, if you register naked partners/player same thin ...

If you mean registering for CSB, only your current PvP BP is recorded. You can change equipment, skills, partners all you want. It goes by whatever you are using when they battle you. I've tested this a few times. I was able to change zans ect ect to battle, change partners, or what not.

Now not sure on if when they battle you if things change, as our top person has changed skills in the middle of CSB and all that. Maybe it's not suppose to do that but it does. *shrugs*

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-11-14 20:13:52

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-14 14:52
If you mean registering for CSB, only your current PvP BP is recorded. You can change equipment, s ...

so meaning if he register wit A... n then in the mid he change his skill or zank or formation to B...

n u so happen fight him then... so u r hittin his current B set at tht moment of time rite ?

author: nieverland time: 2014-11-14 20:19:51

PAOFUI replied at 2014-11-14 19:13
so meaning if he register wit A... n then in the mid he change his skill or zank or formation to ...

Dont think so because one of our top players ask to our best player, to low his bp, he do that and at the battle nothing changed

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-11-14 20:26:29

its not about the BP we r talkin about...

its the formations n skills...

bp does not matter...

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-17 02:13:11

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-14 14:52
If you mean registering for CSB, only your current PvP BP is recorded. You can change equipment, s ...

yeah but your (Defense setup) is what im talking about what you register is what they face... I ran into quite a few who were trying to drop rank in CSB but all I see that doing is costing them rank

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-11-17 02:16:31

yeah... its good to register a lil lower... n just enuf to keep the ranks... n points...

but regis nekkid is good for others... at least lower lvls can get to clear the row...

tht if u r kind enuf to let others gettin the points...

otherwise ppl will register higher n blockin opponents from goin up... n gettin the points...

author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-17 03:22:34

i saw a player from my server(340k odd bp) in csb, but in csb it showed him having 400k odd bp. And he never got to that much bp even till now or before. so what exactly is the bp that is shown in csb?

author: adventurethis time: 2014-11-17 05:19:44

If you register with no items you will be placed in something like D rank and you will get crap rewards. It is best for yourself in the long run to stay in the highest rank you can while at the same time still defeating everyone in your row.

author: Leitzur time: 2014-11-18 00:17:15

ajoalex replied at 2014-11-17 02:22
i saw a player from my server(340k odd bp) in csb, but in csb it showed him having 400k odd bp. And ...

i think it's a reiatsu bp, the bp that you can see during alliance blood battle.

what is the best way for registering csb (at the following days, not at first few days) so that we can clear more lines?

register with mainly used partner?
register with other strong partner?
changing skills/zanpakuto?
register with only main?
register with <4 partners?
changing into lower equipment?
etc..

author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-18 00:18:58

Leitzur replied at 2014-11-18 09:17
i think it's a reiatsu bp, the bp that you can see during alliance blood battle.

what is the best ...

i think if u register with less number of partners, then the same will be available in csb. i have seen many MAIN only teams in csb.

author: Leitzur time: 2014-11-18 00:25:13

ajoalex replied at 2014-11-17 23:18
i think if u register with less number of partners, then the same will be available in csb. i have ...

yeah, I see that sometimes, and some team have no vanguard (like pve team but they have harribel and yoru there). are you always registering with only main these days?

author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-18 01:28:54

Leitzur replied at 2014-11-18 09:25
yeah, I see that sometimes, and some team have no vanguard (like pve team but they have harribel a ...

i have been registering legit till now, 1-2-2 ie. but i am hating to see ppl with double bp on my lane these days.

author: lmavenl time: 2014-11-18 03:02:16

I definitely agree with you.

author: lmavenl time: 2014-11-18 03:30:38

Leitzur replied at 2014-11-9 22:27
when we were challanged and beaten by others, will our points decrease?

No,our points don't decrease when we are beaten by other players.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-19 07:07:27

i won super but no reward???

author: Vegerunks time: 2014-11-19 07:21:44

theasom3 replied at 2014-11-9 17:20
Its not pathetic...its a legit strategy people use...and even if he gets lower challengers it does ...

Actually it is a big deal seeing as People that have 50k BP lower than me do 5-10 damage to my main and Vanguard.

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-11-19 08:30:30

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-19 06:07
i won super but no reward???

super challenge doesnt gif u rewards... it gifs u points...

author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-19 13:41:42

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this bugger is there in the bottom lane since 2-3 days. i am lvl 76. i dt mind fighting ppl in their 80s, but this is BS. neither will i get shinigami points nor will i get battle points . sigh

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-19 14:10:27

fk the points lol

author: theasom3 time: 2014-11-19 23:01:30

Vegerunks replied at 2014-11-19 06:21
Actually it is a big deal seeing as People that have 50k BP lower than me do 5-10 damage to my mai ...

big deal or not, thats not my argument.... please read, my argument only is against the nitwits who dont know what a strategy is and are bitching about it and saying its not when it is.PLUS even if u were to register at your normal bp, you still get those few outliers that mess up every thing, i register at my normal 370k bp lvl 86 and get lvl 91s with 600k bp. These lvl 91s arnt lowering their bp but im still getting them, this is the game bieng at fault.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-19 23:32:57

i do fine with player that are 200-300k above me

author: karcharinas time: 2014-12-26 13:03:17

how many points do you get from super challenge

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-15 15:39:50

not enough for the 200g your spending per attempt

author: ajoalex time: 2015-1-15 15:49:12

karcharinas replied at 2014-12-26 22:03
how many points do you get from super challenge

you get only if you win those, same 20pts per win. so if you win all 3, you get 60pts for 200g

author: heartunderblade time: 2015-2-9 13:19:50

to get back on topic. did someone try this superchallenge? and how many points can u get for a win there?

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-2-9 13:24:35

heartunderblade replied at 2015-2-9 12:19
to get back on topic. did someone try this superchallenge? and how many points can u get for a win t ...

its just 4 extra battles with 80 points each (tried it once)

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