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author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-18 17:57:59 Title: Isshin worth 10k for low vip?

Edited by Asian123 at 2016-11-19 04:10

I wish to know if he's worth the gold(i intend to hire him and pay for his days until i get him permanently).
Is he worth the gold for both pvp and pve? (for low vip, as stated above)
better than yama for pvp if both at evo 11?
Worth or Not?
My PvP formation : Mc, Yamamoto(exclusive level 0, Evo 11 and Pure T1), Hollowed Ichigo, Sosuke Aizen and Kirinji.
My ES formation: Mc(with Hollowed Ichigo's gear), Sexy Yoruichi(exclusive level 35, 5 mods done), Uryuu(fully modded,with mc's gear), Kisuke and Cute Orihime.
Ryoka: Mc,Sexy Yoruichi,Hollowed Ichigo,Kisuke and Cute Orihime(other details are same as for ES formation).

You can check a recently ryoka battle on channel : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1UgRwbwCrRqt7rsrmhy8ag

author: xInfiniteBleach time: 2016-11-18 18:02:25

Well i might be playing a bit over an month but Doesnt that depend on your Current Formation ? Its probally pretty worth for people who have a what less formation than ussual Guys of there VIP Lv.
Also i dont quite understand the Limited Lease?
Is it like if u Lease then and u paided an total of 10k Gold ( Like with Isshin ) U get him Permanent ? something like that?

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-18 18:06:42

xInfiniteBleach replied at 2016-11-19 04:02
Well i might be playing a bit over an month but Doesnt that depend on your Current Formation ? Its p ...

when you hire a partner, you can keep him in your partner list even after he's expired. You just can't use him.
You can get the partner from any other event, and when you get have him in your bag, click on use, and the partner you hired will become permanent.
So, for hiring select minimum amount of gold, i.e, 1 day. Just get the partner elsewhere if you can, since that saves money.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-11-18 18:10:18

you can pay 10kgold to permanent own Isshin or pay it in payments and it takes a xgold off of 10k.. say you lease for a week 420gold you still have 9,480 to go till you permanently own him

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-18 18:12:13

[email protected] replied at 2016-11-19 04:10
you can pay 10kgold to permanent own Isshin or pay it in payments and it takes a xgold off of 10k.. ...

I know how the system works.
I'm asking if he's worth it for my team or not.

author: Miken97 time: 2016-11-18 18:20:44

He is rather outdated character, for 10k you could get something better for both PvE and PvP. Also he tends to cause bugs so this is another disadvantage. And is he better for PvP than yama? That depends. Isshin will be better against players who focused on assaulter line but won't be that usefull against players who focus more on support or vanguards (and from what i have seen majority of players focus on supporters or vaguard, not assaulters). So better don't bother with him.

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-18 18:22:52

Miken97 replied at 2016-11-19 04:20
He is rather outdated character, for 10k you could get something better for both PvE and PvP. Also h ...

Hm.
Something better like?

author: Dotiie time: 2016-11-18 18:23:20

IMO it's not worth, since we already saw chars such as B.Renji in UBP, isshin will prob come by as well, i would recommend to save the gold and get another char, who? i have no clue, you have to check what you reallly need, and im lazy to get more info

isshin isn't worth anymore since he got fixed

keep in mind, this is my opinion and im just trying to give a fast answer, so i didn't pay to much attention to details, just wait a day or 2 and you will get enough answers to decide

Bai Bai

author: Miken97 time: 2016-11-18 18:35:04

Asian123 replied at 2016-11-19 00:22
Hm.
Something better like?

Actually, it depends on you. There are character who are better than isshin and only slightly more expensive(11-12k) like kirio, retsu unohana kenpachi( last times i only se her in ultra hero for 8k top-up), b.renji( appear pretty rare in events exept ultra hero but if you will wait long enough maybe you will find him for about 12k). That was just examples for better PvE characters. You better search yourself and decide who is most suitable for youhttp://bleach-online-user.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Event_Partner.

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-18 18:38:35

Miken97 replied at 2016-11-19 04:35
Actually, it depends on you. There are character who are better than isshin and only slightly more ...

I've done all the freakin 'research' I can, and can't come up with anything good coz I can't top up enough to get a partner.

author: Miken97 time: 2016-11-18 19:00:48

Asian123 replied at 2016-11-19 00:38
I've done all the freakin 'research' I can, and can't come up with anything good coz I can't top u ...

Well, i don't know how many top-ups you still gonna do ( and how big they will be) so it's hard to say for me too. Maybe better wait with final decision. We're getting orange partners now so rest may drop in price and maybe some good cycle of events will appear and you will be able to pick 2 characters. If you still want to get some new partner now, I think that the best would be one of those 3:Kirio,b.renji,retsu unohana kenpachi(as I already said). But it's really up to you.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-11-18 20:38:45

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author: [email protected] time: 2016-11-18 23:10:11

No, he is outdated. For 10k you can get somebody from zero-div or koga during zanpakuto power.

author: LadyKyojin time: 2016-11-19 01:22:08

isshin was only great when he first came out with his bug gave you 100% combo. personally i save the cash and wait for kensei in ubp otherwise stick with yama or get shura like i mentioned to you before but that my way of saving cash for somthing better infact csb ken will out damage isshin and yamma.

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-19 02:15:46

LadyKyojin replied at 2016-11-19 11:22
isshin was only great when he first came out with his bug gave you 100% combo. personally i save the ...

I have Sexy Yoruichi at Exclusive Level 35, as I said in the start of this post.
CSB Ken is unable to do more damage than her, so I wish to get someone who could do me good in both Pvp and pve.
And I don't use Yama in events anymore, if you'd read the post. :/

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-11-19 11:29:47

Asian123 replied at 2016-11-18 18:12
I know how the system works.
I'm asking if he's worth it for my team or not.

Isshin used to be a top tier partner, now 10k is a little steep for him, I know with a 12k top up during ultra hero you can get either B Renji or Shini Kensei, both much better than Isshin, you could save up for Shura Kenpachi, who is better in PVE than Isshin, which that would be all you would be using Isshin for anyway as IMO, Yama trumps Isshin usually in pvp. If your trying to replace Yama in pvp and pve for 10k, I don't think Isshin is the one. Maybe instead replace your H Ichi for Soph Rangiku or even Ichebe if you can get that much change together

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-20 01:11:03

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-11-19 21:29
Isshin used to be a top tier partner, now 10k is a little steep for him, I know with a 12k top up ...

Can't get Ichibe.
I intend to get Nozarashi Kenpachi, but I don't know how much red tavern update will change the partners...
Still need about 73 days to get Noza if i get 15 coups everyday.(had 1100 saved pre vip XD)

author: LadyKyojin time: 2016-11-20 02:49:24

Asian123 replied at 2016-11-19 07:15
I have Sexy Yoruichi at Exclusive Level 35, as I said in the start of this post.
CSB Ken is unable ...

yeh i know i sent you a pm about it you need to get csb ken if you go with 3 assulters if not secy yourchi be better with 2 supports and 2 assulter she buff you support damage and give fury also and possible t1 full team if you have enough fury stoned but thats future possibility.

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-20 02:55:38

LadyKyojin replied at 2016-11-20 12:49
yeh i know i sent you a pm about it you need to get csb ken if you go with 3 assulters if not secy ...

I can't use 3 assaulters in ryoka, as they die and don't do much damage.
I use vanguard with 2 assaulters(mc, and sexy yoruichi) and 2 supporters(fury generators).
I was asking who I should get to benefit me in both Evil Spirit(in which I use 3 assaulters) and Pvp(replace Yama).

author: JemoWhite time: 2016-11-20 05:33:34

Well it has already been said, but if are willing to wait till you have 10k you could get 2 much better characters with ultra heroes in combo met bankai power. With ultra heroes you could get unohana and then with bankai power you would have ehnough gold left to get for example Koga or Shuhei. Wich woould be a lot better then only Isshi you could get Isshin sooner with lease but i'd say wait eaven if it takes a while till you can pay the 10k all ad once you'd get more worth for you're money.

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-20 07:56:37

JemoWhite replied at 2016-11-20 15:33
Well it has already been said, but if are willing to wait till you have 10k you could get 2 much bet ...

I am unable to top up that much money at once( can't save that much either).

author: JemoWhite time: 2016-11-20 08:08:39

Asian123 replied at 2016-11-20 07:56
I am unable to top up that much money at once( can't save that much either).

not much more advice i can give then but i would save up instead off leasing isshin till you have him. Also if you still plann(if) on getting sexy yoruichi and insist on getting a vanguard for pve(ryokaattack) wich i don't really get because you would lose damage and ad some point the damage is just more important cause you might survive till round 5 but don't do ehnough damage to kill it, so having more damage is more important in my opinion. Regardless if you do take a vanguard and yoruichi change cuter orihime with kisuke and take shinso gin wich will take a lot off coupons but you can get him. Wich inn turn would make all characters skill every round. You probably knew all this already but i felt like saying it anyway

author: [email protected] time: 2016-11-20 08:11:56

Asian123 replied at 2016-11-20 07:56
I am unable to top up that much money at once( can't save that much either).

dont be lured here with combo rate, s.yorui works better with high dps partners due to her passive combo rate. i have yorui, renji, csb ken and kensei - dps wise it works like this: yorui + renji > csb ken > kensei. combo rate aint that great in pve compared to 300%+ dps dealers, especially if you plan to use 8th skill on main which overwrite combo buff.

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-20 08:13:26

JemoWhite replied at 2016-11-20 18:08
not much more advice i can give then but i would save up instead off leasing isshin till you have ...

Shinso is just a better kisuke. XD
I intend to get Nozarashi soon. So forget getting another vanguard.
Still leasing Yoruichi btw.

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-20 08:18:56

[email protected] replied at 2016-11-20 18:11
dont be lured here with combo rate, s.yorui works better with high dps partners due to her passive ...

i could use 9th skill if I had enough combo rate from other partners, but I intend to use the 8th skill since i don't see that happening.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-11-21 09:09:08

Asian123 replied at 2016-11-20 01:11
Can't get Ichibe.
I intend to get Nozarashi Kenpachi, but I don't know how much red tavern update ...

Noza is a monster, stay with him, get res ulquorria also for bonds

author: tytheboy time: 2016-11-21 10:53:49

well his comborate will definetly make good extra dmg if you have someone like s.youro with relly high growthrate (yes id use s.youro instead of uryu cause of the fury she gives (makes a "tvinskill" easier)

twinskill means doing a skill in 2 consecutive turns due to either comborate increasing fury if furygiving suppoers

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-21 11:15:18

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-11-21 19:09
Noza is a monster, stay with him, get res ulquorria also for bonds

Getting Noza alone is probably gonna take me near 3 months(I used 6-7 months of Hma coins on silver and backpacks).
We'll probably have the partner update by then.
Hope Noza's still better in all aspects than H.ichi.

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-21 11:15:55

tytheboy replied at 2016-11-21 20:53
well his comborate will definetly make good extra dmg if you have someone like s.youro with relly hi ...

I have her at exclusive level 36.
Use uryuu as support.
2 fury gens main 8th skillnear 4k challenge stones.. will probably get a partner next season.

author: tytheboy time: 2016-11-21 11:17:54

Asian123 replied at 2016-11-21 11:15
I have her at exclusive level 36.
Use uryuu as support.
2 fury gens main 8th skill

yeah i tought so ;-)
is kisuke t1 (making c.ori t1)
also speed arangment

kisuke>c.ori> s.youro> main> uryu
also witch zan do you use?

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-21 12:46:01

tytheboy replied at 2016-11-21 21:17
yeah i tought so ;-)
is kisuke t1 (making c.ori t1)
also speed arangment

nope.
Kisuke can't be fastest
yoruichi is faster in any case.
kazeshini

author: tytheboy time: 2016-11-21 12:57:19

Asian123 replied at 2016-11-21 12:46
nope.
Kisuke can't be fastest
yoruichi is faster in any case.

why cant kisuke be fastest? (choice or just overal speeb abillity)

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-22 05:06:29

tytheboy replied at 2016-11-21 22:57
why cant kisuke be fastest? (choice or just overal speeb abillity)

Read the original thread again please.

author: sakata26 time: 2016-11-22 07:36:07

Asian123 replied at 2016-11-22 05:06
Read the original thread again please.

that came off kinda attitude-ish. don't be a dick towards someone thats trying to help you.

in the time you said that you could have just as easily have said "she's exclusive lv 36 .. kisuke is lv 0"

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-22 11:52:20

Edited by Asian123 at 2016-11-22 22:03

sakata26 replied at 2016-11-22 17:36
that came off kinda attitude-ish. don't be a dick towards someone thats trying to help you.

in th ...

I tried my best to not come off that way...I had other words to say, but I guess people like you still find normal sentences offensive..anyway.... as I've said time and time again in my threads to pay attention to what the thread actually says and not respond only according to the title(directing you to my shura and sexy or haku and sexy poll,shura or hakuteiken poll/thread).

author: JemoWhite time: 2016-11-22 12:46:56

sakata26 replied at 2016-11-22 07:36
that came off kinda attitude-ish. don't be a dick towards someone thats trying to help you.

in th ...

well he did say please wich seems polite to me;)

author: tytheboy time: 2016-11-22 15:15:48

sakata26 replied at 2016-11-22 07:36
that came off kinda attitude-ish. don't be a dick towards someone thats trying to help you.

in th ...

thank you for standing up for me

but no harm done tho ;-) i have thik skind and ive handled some of the real troll legends of this forum

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-23 06:31:12

JemoWhite replied at 2016-11-22 22:46
well he did say please wich seems polite to me;)

Thank you.
I tried.

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-23 06:32:06

tytheboy replied at 2016-11-23 01:15
thank you for standing up for me but no harm done tho ;-) i have thik skind and ive hand ...

Wasn't rude.
Just told you to answer after reading.

author: tytheboy time: 2016-11-23 10:26:42

Asian123 replied at 2016-11-23 06:32
Wasn't rude.
Just told you to answer after reading.

i have read it, but the detail of excl lvl passed me by since it was a few days since i read it

anyways whater under the bridge

well that excl lvl is a relly strong argument for tha speed indeed but if you stack the best speed gear otherwis on kisuke (best hogu, hogyoku highest lvl speed stones etc it could make up for 20-30k speed )
tho it is a huge hassle for events only so not recomended

and i know how it is to have a superfast assaulter in my team (outspeeding my fastest sup with allmost 70k)

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-23 11:41:00

tytheboy replied at 2016-11-23 20:26
i have read it, but the detail of excl lvl passed me by since it was a few days since i read it ...

I see.
I apologise if I offended you.
And yes, she surpasses all others with way too big a margin..and even if I could make Kisuke faster by shuffling stuff, it'd be a real bother since I only do ES.

I am now to face the decision of who to get, Haku or Shura? Coz I only ever do ES and I wouldn't use Shura in Ryoka anyways coz I'd use best gear on Sexy Yoruichi and Shura would just be the support.
In ES, however, Haku would serve a purpose, for combo, and also help in HMA if Sexy dies.

author: tytheboy time: 2016-11-23 12:03:48

Asian123 replied at 2016-11-23 11:41
I see.
I apologise if I offended you.
And yes, she surpasses all others with way too big a margin. ...

no you didnt ;-) my awnser to the guy standing up for me was a thank you for kindness not because i needed it so dont worry

well i wanted hakuteiken for a long time (pvp for the most part)
but since my main damagedealer both pvp and pve is yamamoto i need shuraken XD
so yeah hakuteiken is relly good when it comes to the comborate of his skill (and the growthrate isnt way to bad either) just make shure to make him combo s.youro that means he would have to be the slowest assaulter in your team and i am guessing you have a higher growthrate on your main's skill then hakuteiken, so what dmg boos you dont give to s.your must be prioratised at your main for pve purpose (a little tip to make the extra growthrate worh it ;-) )

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-23 12:24:22

tytheboy replied at 2016-11-23 22:03
no you didnt ;-) my awnser to the guy standing up for me was a thank you for kindness not because i ...

i have 8th skill lvl 10 i think so... not higher

author: tytheboy time: 2016-11-23 12:36:04

Asian123 replied at 2016-11-23 12:24
i have 8th skill lvl 10 i think so... not higher

then you relly should work it up to atleast lvl 20 (that is in fact relly easy to do)
the bug numbers of skillscrolls come after lvl 20

making myself an example ive maxed out 9th and 10th skill with 8th at lvl 27 and all skills on top row lvl 20
the 3 first on the bottom row is still lvl 10 cause i focus more on reinforcing my gear atm

author: Asian123 time: 2016-11-23 12:46:54

tytheboy replied at 2016-11-23 22:36
then you relly should work it up to atleast lvl 20 (that is in fact relly easy to do)
the bug numb ...

i need the silver for my team... no matter how small

author: tytheboy time: 2016-11-23 12:49:49

Asian123 replied at 2016-11-23 12:46
i need the silver for my team... no matter how small

i know the feel ;-) i lack silver for modify (gikogan) reiatsu reinfoce equippment and hogyoku for the most

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