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author: elenixantom time: 2016-12-27 04:25:32 Title: Supporter Dilemma

Hey guys

After I changed my formation, a new problem has been appeared. I need your valuable opinions in that situation.

First, here is my formation :

Zanpakuto : Ryujin Jakka

V : Sexy Kukaku (lvl 40 exclusive, stacked)

A : Main (Physical), B.Renji

S : Hikifune, Senjumaru (Senju is T1, lvl 40 Exclusive and stacked)

My Senjumaru is T1 and attacks first, also makes other Supporter T1 as well. But since my Senju is faster than my Hiki, during PvP I do not benefit the invincibility of Hiki.

Here is my options :

author: chiko88soem time: 2016-12-27 05:21:37

Hey arent u Ren Daisuke? Im asking that because Ren Daisuke doesnt have Brenji, or u planning to buy him?

author: elenixantom time: 2016-12-27 05:23:41

chiko88soem replied at 2016-12-27 05:21
Hey arent u Ren Daisuke? Im asking that because Ren Daisuke doesnt have Brenji, or u planning to buy ...

Yes I am and I am planning to get him soon

I will get Ryujin Jakka in 3 days and B.Renji during either UBP or next Ultra Hero event.

So that question is for my future formation ;)

author: chiko88soem time: 2016-12-27 05:39:19

btw cant u just swap gear and make Hiki T1 if u need it, like vs brenjis? Hiki is naturally slower as some other Supporters and vulnerable to Fury deduction. And Senjus good speed might be wasted if u go full Hiki stacking.

author: Miken97 time: 2016-12-27 05:42:14

Edited by Miken97 at 2016-12-27 11:44

Hiki isn't that strong anymore. There are characters who are faster than her (and it wouldn't be that hard since she has rather low exclusive skill) or have immune invicibility. Better don't bother with her if you not gonna focus on her ( and you shouldn't do it). She may be helpful in some situations though but then you can give her senju's gear just for one fight

But in most of cases her skill won't give you too much profits (at least in PvP). Getting oetsu and keeping hiki in bond would make your senju a lot faster than hiki can hope to be and if oetsu survives he can do a lot of damage and help a lot against stacked vanguards so IMO he seems like better idea than hiki. But maybe you should keep it as it is for now and wait for chair aizen and then stack him. With kukaku+RJ he can be pretty OP (even if formation 1-3-1 could be a lot of struggle for physical main) and at the very end he will be probably the best you can get

author: elenixantom time: 2016-12-27 05:58:40

Miken97 replied at 2016-12-27 05:42
Hiki isn't that strong anymore. There are characters who are faster than her (and it wouldn't be tha ...

Thanks a lot mate. I personally prefer using Oetsu instead of Hiki since he is faster, stronger and has a speed aura. (I made a mistake by buying Hiki :/ Rookie mistakes).

On the other hand, leveling up a hero from level 1 is so painful. I just wanna know what I should do. Because I do not want to do any mistakes anymore

author: elenixantom time: 2016-12-27 06:07:49

chiko88soem replied at 2016-12-27 05:39
btw cant u just swap gear and make Hiki T1 if u need it, like vs brenjis? Hiki is naturally slower a ...

Hiki is not stacked right now. I only gave her 20 lvl exclusive but it can be inherited :/ I want to use my Senju since she is a goddess but I just dont know who should be her partner :p

author: MrBerus time: 2016-12-27 07:02:00

elenixantom replied at 2016-12-27 06:07
Hiki is not stacked right now. I only gave her 20 lvl exclusive but it can be inherited :/ I want ...

i must confess i am interested in seeing how far ryujin will change our csb top 6 placements. do you have any predictions on how any fight will go, or its more of a "damn great zan upgrade, lets see how it goes later" kind of situation?

author: elenixantom time: 2016-12-27 07:31:27

MrBerus replied at 2016-12-27 07:02
i must confess i am interested in seeing how far ryujin will change our csb top 6 placements. do y ...

Dunno if you are in my realm but probably I will move to 2nd or 3th place according to our supporters' speed

author: MrBerus time: 2016-12-27 07:43:42

Edited by MrBerus at 2016-12-27 07:45

elenixantom replied at 2016-12-27 07:31
Dunno if you are in my realm but probably I will move to 2nd or 3th place according to our support ...

i am in your realm. i just think the top 3 is a bit "beastly" and i am honestly curious about how you would do against them with "just" a new ryujin. I also feel like i must emphasize that "just" in quotes
edit: cant wait for next week tot

author: elenixantom time: 2016-12-27 07:52:26

MrBerus replied at 2016-12-27 07:43
i am in your realm. i just think the top 3 is a bit "beastly" and i am honestly curious about how y ...

I am stacking Soul of Conquest for a time. So my Ryujin will not be a newbie

author: ohmyvenus time: 2016-12-27 08:07:18

chiko88soem replied at 2016-12-27 05:39
btw cant u just swap gear and make Hiki T1 if u need it, like vs brenjis? Hiki is naturally slower a ...

hiki speed can reach 1.8m

but she already out of date with senju, new partner mostly immune fury reduce, ignore invi .. all about zanp now RJ > partner

author: [email protected] time: 2016-12-27 08:25:41

Hey, who do you recomend from zero-div supporter? Currently i use Shinso + Kirinji + B.renji and vg.

right now my Kirinj is t1 and i stacked him to lv 25 exclusive and have 9k exclusive frags left.

author: Miken97 time: 2016-12-27 09:01:51

elenixantom replied at 2016-12-27 11:58
Thanks a lot mate. I personally prefer using Oetsu instead of Hiki since he is faster, stronger an ...

I wouldn't call it a mistake. She is a lot better than oetsu in PvE and depending on formation may be better in PvP as well (although in your case oetsu should be better). If you don't want to make mistake you should just wait. Oetsu gonna profit you but with that kind of money it's better to wait for something better to buy or just go for aizen

author: elenixantom time: 2016-12-27 09:07:30

Miken97 replied at 2016-12-27 09:01
I wouldn't call it a mistake. She is a lot better than oetsu in PvE and depending on formation may ...

I dont think it will cost me so too much. If I top up 12k gold during Ultra Hero event for B.renji, I will have more than enough to spend during Anniversary event for Oetsu. So I can have both 4x lvl 10 str/wis stones and Oetsu for 12-13k :p

But yeah, for now I will focus on my RJ, Kukaku and Senju since they will stay with me for a looooong time ;)

author: elenixantom time: 2016-12-27 09:09:19

[email protected] replied at 2016-12-27 08:25
Hey, who do you recomend from zero-div supporter? Currently i use Shinso + Kirinji + B.renji and vg. ...

If you do not want to spend more money, you can keep your formation. Kirinji is a decent supporter (a lot better with exclusive skill unlocked) and Shinso is also good even tough he is outdated. If you stack Sinso up enough, he can beat many red supporters ;)

Whats your zanpakuto btw?

author: Asian123 time: 2016-12-27 09:49:39

Miken97 replied at 2016-12-27 19:01
I wouldn't call it a mistake. She is a lot better than oetsu in PvE and depending on formation may ...

You know my formation, don't you? [Yama(T1), Kirinji, Aizen(Tavern), H.Ichigo(Tavern)] Zan:Kazeshini
Should I get Oetsu or Hikifune?

author: Miken97 time: 2016-12-27 09:54:05

Edited by Miken97 at 2016-12-27 15:56

elenixantom replied at 2016-12-27 15:07
I dont think it will cost me so too much. If I top up 12k gold during Ultra Hero event for B.renji ...

Well, maybe 12k isn't that much for you but still I wouldn't buy partner who won't be my endgame partner. I think that it would better to stack that gold to buy something a lot better than oetsu (haschwalth or some new partner). Unless you have such a lot of money that this kind of expense doesn't matter to you of course

author: Miken97 time: 2016-12-27 10:04:47

Asian123 replied at 2016-12-27 15:49
You know my formation, don't you? [Yama(T1), Kirinji, Aizen(Tavern), H.Ichigo(Tavern)] Zan:Kazeshi ...

Guess hiki will be better for you, for me oestu is more like partner you buy when you have senju/hiki and he won't be that great alone, plus better have character who is good for both PvP and PvE than partner who is only for PvP

author: [email protected] time: 2016-12-27 10:08:14

elenixantom replied at 2016-12-27 09:09
If you do not want to spend more money, you can keep your formation. Kirinji is a decent supporter ...

Kazekishi pve, Jizo pvp. I think i get either zangetsu or muramasa in future.

I plan to keep kirinji fastest char for speed buff while stacking other char for damage/defence so he can 1 shot enemy team. I have aleredy 15k pts, so i have to pick somebody and it is not easy cuz supporter trio are good in own ways.

I like Senju most, but for her bond i need all other zero-div characters.

author: elenixantom time: 2016-12-27 10:13:22

Asian123 replied at 2016-12-27 09:49
You know my formation, don't you? [Yama(T1), Kirinji, Aizen(Tavern), H.Ichigo(Tavern)] Zan:Kazeshi ...

Change Aizen with Hikifune. In your case, Hiki is more useful. Or for a cheaper option,go for red kyoraku with exclusive skill..

author: Asian123 time: 2016-12-27 11:25:33

Miken97 replied at 2016-12-27 20:04
Guess hiki will be better for you, for me oestu is more like partner you buy when you have senju/h ...

I normally have trouble with stacked nozas in arena, hikis in hma and well, bp differences in csb.

author: elenixantom time: 2016-12-27 11:29:23

Edited by elenixantom at 2016-12-27 11:31

Asian123 replied at 2016-12-27 11:25
I normally have trouble with stacked nozas in arena, hikis in hma and well, bp differences in csb.

Well, only solution for a stacked Noza is another stacked high-end VG, Ryujin Jakka, or Bankai Rukia. Oetsu is also a solution but his skill is random.

Both RJ and Bankai Rukia is expensive. B.Rukia is also slow compared to red partners. So cheapest counter for a stacked Noza is another stacked Noza

For Hiki's in Arena, you need a faster partner to attack first and kill opponent's Hiki before she attacks. Or you can always use a stacked Noza against her

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-12-27 11:36:39

elenixantom replied at 2016-12-27 05:58
Thanks a lot mate. I personally prefer using Oetsu instead of Hiki since he is faster, stronger an ...

I'd suggest dropping Hiki for Rajin Yourichi, she's blistering fast, boost speed, has mutulate, chaos, ect

author: Asian123 time: 2016-12-27 12:05:28

elenixantom replied at 2016-12-27 21:29
Well, only solution for a stacked Noza is another stacked high-end VG, Ryujin Jakka, or Bankai Ruki ...

I don't have noza.. got more than a month to get him if i continue getting 15 coupons everyday.
I don't think my noza would be too stacked anyways like the one in my arena who has 9.6m hp.
I only have two Hikis in arena so that doesn't matter tbh(not many in csb either not in hma either)
Speed problem isn't much coz people have shinsos kirinjis or ultimas.
Noza problem is more. So should I get Senju Hiki or Oetsu?
(can't spend for another ever in the future)

author: elenixantom time: 2016-12-27 12:39:21

Asian123 replied at 2016-12-27 12:05
I don't have noza.. got more than a month to get him if i continue getting 15 coupons everyday.
I ...

In that case, go for Oetsu for more speed and damage

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-12-27 12:42:21

Asian123 replied at 2016-12-27 12:05
I don't have noza.. got more than a month to get him if i continue getting 15 coupons everyday.
I ...

Oetsu, but have someone else go first that hits hard AOE to clear off the weaker foes, that way you have a better chance of his mutilate hitting the vang

author: Asian123 time: 2016-12-27 13:20:54

elenixantom replied at 2016-12-27 22:39
In that case, go for Oetsu for more speed and damage

Thanks.
I'm sure he's the one I should get now.

author: Asian123 time: 2016-12-27 13:21:27

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-12-27 22:42
Oetsu, but have someone else go first that hits hard AOE to clear off the weaker foes, that way yo ...

I could mess with stones for special nozas.
Otherwise I'll keep him fastest.

Thanks

author: Jinzo67 time: 2016-12-28 10:47:55

[email protected] replied at 2016-12-27 08:25
Hey, who do you recomend from zero-div supporter? Currently i use Shinso + Kirinji + B.renji and vg. ...

I would go for senju with that setup. Her combo rate skill mixed with your shinso should get you extra turns from the rip. I use tessia for support combo and get 2 turns a round every round once put into effect. plus it let's my shinso go twice keeping all special every round due to the 50 points he gets on his skill as well.

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

These are how you should come out, an idea of how.

author: Jinzo67 time: 2016-12-28 10:53:34

elenixantom replied at 2016-12-27 05:58
Thanks a lot mate. I personally prefer using Oetsu instead of Hiki since he is faster, stronger an ...

Personally, if I were you and you can make that kind of move, I would wait for an event where you can get ryujin for spending the gold and use it to buy orange Yorichi. Can't go wrong there. but you will only replace in the far future buying another red partner.

Yorichi has the speed halo and is sick in growth herself. This to me would be the wisest choice. Just my opinion.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-12-28 12:42:14

Jinzo67 replied at 2016-12-28 10:47
I would go for senju with that setup. Her combo rate skill mixed with your shinso should get you e ...

Dat looks cool, but has Senju to be fastest in dat case or can i make somenthing like this: Kirinji>Senju>Gin speed wise?

author: Jinzo67 time: 2016-12-28 17:48:59

Edited by Jinzo67 at 2016-12-28 17:53

[email protected] replied at 2016-12-28 12:42
Dat looks cool, but has Senju to be fastest in dat case or can i make somenthing like this: Kirinji ...

That can work just the same. As long as you can get senju off so her combo goes into effect before your last support hits. her hitting last will have to wait till next round.

Then you just need to figure out the formation placing to make them combo right. Where they are in formation effects the combo and if they will. I moved mine around till I got that.
But a setup like that can let you get 5-6 hit's in before they even get there 1st.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-12-28 18:35:47

Jinzo67 replied at 2016-12-28 17:48
That can work just the same. As long as you can get senju off so her combo goes into effect before ...

Yeah i saw your second post on my thread after i answered. That Tessai combo looked great. I just hope they fix void BS quick and i wont regreats over Oetsu.

Hiki is also worthy at the moment cuz every second player got B.Renji from ubp, but she's just to lame..

author: Jinzo67 time: 2016-12-28 18:41:50

[email protected] replied at 2016-12-28 18:35
Yeah i saw your second post on my thread after i answered. That Tessai combo looked great. I just ...

Didn't even notice that was you too, lol. I don't look at names too much. More at the avatars.

author: absolboy101 time: 2016-12-31 13:48:54

if hasn't been decided yet i would just get hiki t0 lvl 40 exc and see what from there

author: elenixantom time: 2017-1-2 05:09:12

I will probably keep my supporter line as it is right now, and wait for a discount for orange supporters...

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