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author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-9 11:54:13     Title: 18888

hello guys my team is kirinji-spirit blade main-kyoraku-harribel and kumamura
my zanpakuto is ashisogi
as the poll said i want to what i should do
i already have 12 fury stones and 4 fury from gear and i need atleast 30 more stones for t1 my kirinji or my kyoraku
but i want to take ryumon ikkaku for shinso

author: erazor123    time: 2017-1-9 12:28:29

oh pls ryumon is garbage, and even more since the tavern upgrade
author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-9 12:34:09

erazor123 replied at 2017-1-9 12:28
oh pls ryumon is garbage, and even more since the tavern upgrade

i want him for shinso gin
gin needs 24 stones to make him t1 and right now i have 12
author: Devvoke2    time: 2017-1-9 18:30:57

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author: [email protected]    time: 2017-1-9 19:34:38

First of all, you should definetly get Ryumon for shinso, but you should not spend any coupons on it, just save up your comrade contracts from daily task, that's how I got him for free^^
Takes a little more time, but it is definitely worth it.

2nd of all, top up 200 gold on the 2nd day of the Reio guardian event and spend 500 gold, you will get 8 fury stones as a reward for completing all the tasks once in the event.  (For EU servers that would be now, for US that would be when the server resets later today )

3rd, get fury stones for the coupons


author: JemoWhite    time: 2017-1-9 19:37:35

Depends on what you wanna do you probably don't need shinso gin if you want to get stronger or perhaps you have an specific team in mind inn wich he would fit really well then its a different story. Or you could be like me and just like to collect partners you think look good or cool in a way. Just trying to say depends on what you want. If you'd plan on a pvp team with a fury giver i do suppose he is better then kisuke. So in that aspect i voted on ikkaku.
author: Tinoma    time: 2017-1-10 07:49:32

Does your kyoraku have exclusiveskill?
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-1-10 08:21:02

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0YGR9NHdOY


Guys my ryoka damage please check it out
author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-10 08:32:01

JemoWhite replied at 2017-1-9 19:37
Depends on what you wanna do you probably don't need shinso gin if you want to get stronger or perha ...

the team i got in my mind is kirinji-kyoraku-s.gin-main and h.ichi
kyoraku gives 10% speed to all with his 6th mod and s.gin gives 10% speed to kidos with his mod
that's why i want him

author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-10 08:32:19

Tinoma replied at 2017-1-10 07:49
Does your kyoraku have exclusiveskill?

not yet but ill be there in few months

author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-10 08:33:19

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-9 19:34
First of all, you should definetly get Ryumon for shinso, but you should not spend any coupons on it ...

i am planing to achive t1 to shinso or the others with reio guardian event as you said.
i am unlucky with my daily task
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-1-10 10:54:09

flameporo replied at 2017-1-10 14:33
i am planing to achive t1 to shinso or the others with reio guardian event as you said.
i am unluc ...

Do you have shinigami agent?

Cause with shini agent you can get them 90% of the time :p   (You get 10 free refreshes    )



author: MylarHyrule    time: 2017-1-10 12:26:31

to natural T1 a partner takes WAY more than 40ish stones...  your talking closer to 100+ stones    126ish i think without mods, enchantment, or evolution
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-1-10 12:54:41

Edited by [email protected] at 2017-1-10 19:03
MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-10 18:26
to natural T1 a partner takes WAY more than 40ish stones...  your talking closer to 100+ stones    1 ...

Yea, but i think he's talking about Shinso with 10 fury from evo


Only +10 from evo:
"For chars with 10 fury on their evolution:
u need 80% Initial Fury from stones + evolution (+10 fury) to be T1

4x Advanced fury stones (14%) + 2x Intermediate fury stones (12%) = 80%
50 * 0.80 = 40
50 + 40 (from stones) + 10 (from evolution) = 100 Fury at start of battle

Total Basic fury stones needed: 40 Basic fury stones"

With +4 From Enchant:
"(Green) 6x Intermediate fury stones (12%) = 72%
             50 * 0.72 = 36
             50 + 36 (from stones) + 4 (from psychic enchant) + 10 (from evolution) = 100 Fury at start of battle

Total Basic fury stones needed: 24 Basic fury stones"



Then ofcourse he could also go for a t1 on kyoraku: (5 fury from evo + 4 from weapon)
(Green) 5x Advanced fury stones (14%) + 1x Intermediate fury stones (12%) = 82%
             50 * 0.82 = 41
             50 + 41 (from stones) + 4 (from psychic enchant) + 5 (from evolution) = 100 Fury at start of battle

Total Basic fury stones needed: 44 Basic fury stones



Source= HOW TO T1



author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-10 13:41:51

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-10 12:54
Yea, but i think he's talking about Shinso with 10 fury from evo

s.gin takes 10 fury from his evo and as i wrote i have 4 fury from gear
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-1-10 13:45:16

flameporo replied at 2017-1-10 19:41
s.gin takes 10 fury from his evo and as i wrote i have 4 fury from gear

Yep :p

Thus you only need 24 stones to t1 him^^
author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-10 13:48:19

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-10 13:45
Yep :p

Thus you only need 24 stones to t1 him^^

that's why ill go for him i can take 8 from rio guardian event that's mean ill make him t1 really fast
and ill propably need about 1 or 2 months to go 110 lvl and have gamuza
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-1-10 13:51:12

flameporo replied at 2017-1-10 19:48
that's why ill go for him i can take 8 from rio guardian event  that's mean ill make him t1 real ...

Nice


Still, Do your best not to spend your coupons on getting him :p
author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-10 13:54:46

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-10 13:51
Nice

if i have calculate right ill need 20k to get i ll have stil 4 or 5k coupons left

author: [email protected]    time: 2017-1-10 13:58:49

flameporo replied at 2017-1-10 19:54
if i have calculate right ill need 20k to get i ll have stil 4 or 5k coupons left

Yea, but you could also get him for free ^^
author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-11 05:30:05

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-10 13:58
Yea, but you could also get him for free ^^

Not really free ill need to spent 20 euro per month to take him with free comrades but this is one way but i dont want to be as one my friend who now try to collect 20k coupons to get him
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2017-1-11 16:02:42

flameporo replied at 2017-1-10 13:41
s.gin takes 10 fury from his evo and as i wrote i have 4 fury from gear

oh, I run a T1 Shinso, I get what your talking about, but you don't even have him yet, your still talking a month+ of evo to get that +10
author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-11 18:51:53

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-11 16:02
oh, I run a T1 Shinso, I get what your talking about, but you don't even have him yet, your still  ...

i know but it ll take less time than 7 or 8 months to take him(one friend collects coupons) and always i can start collect the evo fragments from now i have 6.4k vit now and i am not planning to take something from ubp cause i dont think that they ll put support there
i ll need 7 or 8k vit to max his evo if i am lucky enough

author: MylarHyrule    time: 2017-1-11 20:22:08

flameporo replied at 2017-1-11 18:51
i know but it ll take less time than 7 or 8 months to take him(one friend collects coupons) and al ...

I've easily spent over 7k on mine, and have only gotten up to his first piece on red evo, which red should take about as much as all the golds combined, probably more as i need 50 of some of the red materials...   Then again, I may just have rotten luck with evo
and as for UBP not having a support...  I think your wrong...  Zero division partners should be comming up fairly soon, red partners have started hitting the field, and everyone knows this game favors supports

author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-11 22:01:23

Edited by flameporo at 2017-1-11 22:03
MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-11 20:22
I've easily spent over 7k on mine, and have only gotten up to his first piece on red evo, which red ...

i want from his final evo the material that gives 5 fury
i dont know if they give us 0 division cause the make alot money of them(hiki-seju) i think they 300 euro. otherwise i have to w8 atleast one month for the next visored event
and the next ubp
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2017-1-12 01:20:11

flameporo replied at 2017-1-11 22:01
i want from his final evo the material that gives 5 fury
i dont know if they give us 0 division ca ...

while i do see your point on the zero divisions, they have given out B Renji several times, Shuhei, and Shini Kensei lately...  all on par with zero divison partners in $$$ i think
author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-12 04:57:50

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-12 01:20
while i do see your point on the zero divisions, they have given out B Renji several times, Shuhei ...

you right about that b.renji shini kensei shuhei ishidas father. but i think they gave parters that not all of us we ll take cause some ll stick with yamamoto for good second asaulter or if they are atleast vip 4 ll go for uluqiorra for 3 assaulter or even tavern byakuya or ikkaku.

author: MylarHyrule    time: 2017-1-12 19:45:11

flameporo replied at 2017-1-12 04:57
you right about that b.renji shini kensei shuhei ishidas father. but i think they gave parters tha ...

as for tavern assaulters, endgame PVP...  I'd say Tosen may well be the best, no matter how much i dislike him...   as for VIP4 getting Ulq may not be the best choice...  at VIP4 I'd say Yama is better...  however if your VIP5 and going to get Noza, Res is the better choice (the block bond and all)   Tavern Byauka IMO is only viable if you stack on him good and get his exclusive so you can use him in PVE as well...  Ikkaku is nice, but will fall short in PVP later game...  a good replacement for Ikkaku would be Pan Grim for VIP players as Grim is much better in PVP, and IMO noticeably better in PVE...

also, for a "second assaulter" for PVP...  you will do better with one hard stacked partner rather than 2 mildly stacked ones (especially if you have T1)  if you are going for a 1 2 combo, might i suggest having a mildly beefy vang (maybe Sajin would be a good choice as he's tanky AF with little to no work) then have a stacked up support and a stacked up assaulter, that way you have power comming from different stones for each of your stars....   Str on your Assaulter, and Wis on your support, it's the smart way to do it if you can't just buy level 12 stones for everyone, lol\
author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-12 21:30:06

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-12 19:45
as for tavern assaulters, endgame PVP...  I'd say Tosen may well be the best, no matter how much i ...

thx for the time you spend with my dilemma right now i run 1-1-3 formation. and i like the result i got kirinji and kyoraku are the main supports right now cause i want to get kyoraku's 6th mod fast. as for vip i am vip 3 i dont know i change the formation cause i am planning to get s.gin as you know cause i want the utility he gives to the team. he can be a massive upgrade to my even at stock i think. Right now i am running sajin and as i saw he doesnt worth to upgrade him even if you compare him with noitra. but i dont know if i stick with 1-1-3 formation
author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-13 10:30:16

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-11 16:02
oh, I run a T1 Shinso, I get what your talking about, but you don't even have him yet, your still  ...

mate if i hire s.gin for 1 day can i have him then from legend gallery cause i am planing to hire yamamoto for the legend gallery
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2017-1-13 15:15:17

flameporo replied at 2017-1-13 10:30
mate if i hire s.gin for 1 day can i have him then from legend gallery cause i am planing to hire  ...

I believe so, yes...  I know you  can't with white Ichi from CSB, but you can for other partners...  I think Shinso is a yes on that tactic
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2017-1-13 15:19:18

flameporo replied at 2017-1-12 21:30
thx for the time you spend with my dilemma right now i run 1-1-3 formation. and i like the result  ...

1-1-3 is better than 1-3-1 IMO, you can easily pull your vang for an extra assaulter for events, which is a nice feature...   Kirinji is a good partner, even if i hate him...  Shun is decent, got a person in my server that rocks him and loves him...  for Nnorilta vs Sajin...  Sajin wins IMO, especially if you work on his block rate...  with all his HP and damage immune, a super block rate would make him wonderful...   If you can get Soph Rangiku she would be better for you as she adds a nice bit of regen for herself and your supports, make her a block goddess on top of that and she should make you very very happy
author: kinghollow1    time: 2017-1-13 19:04:57

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-10 13:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0YGR9NHdOY

Make a thread...
author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-13 20:02:55

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-13 15:19
1-1-3 is better than 1-3-1 IMO, you can easily pull your vang for an extra assaulter for events, w ...

then your opinion is to build sajin and make him red?????
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2017-1-14 10:00:53

flameporo replied at 2017-1-13 20:02
then your opinion is to build sajin and make him red?????

it depends...   if your looking to give little work to your vang, then yes, Sajin is a good choice (before the upgrade he was a good choice, and the red upgrade isn't nearly a big in game as it looks on paper)  plus if you add a few block mods, he becomes notably better, running a 1-1-3 (assuming you have either a ghost blade or spirit blade main) will make it easier to make Sajin even tankier...  so yes, if your not able to get an event vang, Sajin can and should be the tankiest vang in the game...  once you get high enough in levels, H Ichi would probably be a good upgrade, but Sajin holds his own for sure, and you can start building him up from a low level...  then again I'm a sucker for a stout vang
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know what I mean?  lol

author: flameporo    time: 2017-1-14 16:22:03

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-14 10:00
it depends...   if your looking to give little work to your vang, then yes, Sajin is a good choice ...

i like sajin but i dont know cause many said that the 70 lvl vanguards doesnt worth to spent time on them but i saw the hirako of one my friend with 125% block rate(no ichigo) who make him red and stack him and reck everything but i dont know if my sajin can do something like this or be massive vanguard like h.ichi . the only partner i dont what to do with him is the vanguard..




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