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author: Chihiro135 time: 2017-1-29 03:30:27 Title: Is Demon Ichi a worthwhile upgrade from red Hollow Ichi?

Edited by Chihiro135 at 2017-1-29 10:31

I already have red hollow Ichigo, so is it worth it to get demon Ichigo as an upgrade?

He's gold and SS and his base stats are higher but now growth rate is lower than red hollow Ichi, and his skill is basically an improvement of red hollow (except for that 200% attack all, that's awesome) but then can't use red hogu on him....

So am I better off with what I've got or is Demon a better bet?

author: hairytoilet time: 2017-1-29 03:45:43

well he's an offensive VG while H. Ichi. is a defensive one, the real question should be whether he's better than Starrk, because he's an offensive VG. but naw, i don't think Demon is worth it

author: KoroSu96 time: 2017-1-29 04:51:36

That's the question i ask myself because if i get d.i i need to top up for hyorimaru but i'm not sure what to do...d.i.'s aid rate sounds awesome but with a zanpakuto that reduces his dmg it's not that good his growth rate is lower then h.i like you said and at the moment i focus on yama so...i want to see more comments

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-29 05:09:15

he is much better than Stark/Ichigo, aid-rate to whole team is OP. but problem is that you should use him with 0% penalty zanpakuto. Horynmaru & Senbon is killing your supporters, while Tensa/Katen/Jakka is way to expensive for most of the players.

But if you are aleredy using a 0% penalty zan - you should definetly grab him.

author: KoroSu96 time: 2017-1-29 05:16:36

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-29 05:09
he is much better than Stark/Ichigo, aid-rate to whole team is OP. but problem is that you should us ...

That's my problem ATM i focus on my team with a defence vg (2-2-1) and my kazeshini has 50 on all effects so i will lose alot if i change my focus on demon ichigo (i will not have vit for next ubp and i would need to top up for hyorimaru)

author: Miken97 time: 2017-1-29 05:31:29

If you're lower than vip5 (or you don't go after noza) then D.Ichigo is best offensive vanguard you can get atm. If you are ready to stack him then he is worth it for sure. Without stacking him ( and using vanguard-friendly zan) he will be at best little improvement. So if you're going to use deffensive vanguard don't bother with him. But if you can afford hyorin then IMO it would be better for you to stack D.ichigo than yamamoto.

author: Rokianas time: 2017-1-29 05:32:17

Well as we already spoke on my post...
D Ichigo is way better for PVP in my Opinion, for PVE it's H Ichigo because he have nice block rate and with higher growth stats his block will be really good.
But then we talk about the skills.... Ohh boy/girl. D Ichigo is wayyy better. His skill is insanely good. Only disadvantage of taking him is actually the part that he's gold and H Ichigo can be (for the ones who use it i'm sure he's already) red so he can wear red hogyoku.
Yet i'm having H Ichigo and playing with good dodge capability (have Nel in team and cap of dodge on vg) still picked D Ichigo because he's just so much better in fights.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-29 05:46:52

Miken97 replied at 2017-1-29 11:31
If you're lower than vip5 (or you don't go after noza) then D.Ichigo is best offensive vanguard you ...

I double this post

Get it right ppl, growth rates don't matter here, demon blows both tavern vang out of water

As far as red hogu goes, how many of you do actually have one or will have a chance of getting your hands on one?

Peace

author: Rokianas time: 2017-1-29 06:05:47

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-29 05:46
I double this post

Get it right ppl, growth rates don't matter here, demon blows both tavern vang ...

Yes D Ichigo is totaly better in my opinion just as you say.
But about red hogu... Man it's easy to get it. I already got one. And with every Visored Revenge event i will take one extra. You need 15,5k starting coupons to get red hogu from event. I already got 35k coupons saved up

Red hogu is easy. What's hard, is red Hogyoku... Yet getting that one soon too (for 2000fragments)

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-29 06:20:38

Rokianas replied at 2017-1-29 12:05
Yes D Ichigo is totaly better in my opinion just as you say.
But about red hogu... Man it's easy t ...

Red hogyoku doesn't require a red partner if that's what you wanted to say, so don't worry about that

As far as red hogu goes, you'd give up on a better partner for 2 red hogus

The difference that he has as a naturally better vanguard is possibly greater even if you equip. 2 red hogus on those other 2. Basically he still blows them out of water and you have 2 red hogus to spare to put them on your support which is still meta if i remember correctly. This game makes it easy sometimes, ppl make it harder

author: Rokianas time: 2017-1-29 06:32:01

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-29 06:20
Red hogyoku doesn't require a red partner if that's what you wanted to say, so don't worry about t ...

Wasn't sure if red hogyoku needs red partner yet thought it doesn't. Thanks for confirmation.
Yet i htink even if you got 4red hogu it's not worth to keep red tavern vg instead of D Ichigo. Hogu sure gives power, but later in the game you will get those red champs so you'll be able to use red hogu on them.
I'm totally for D Ichigo. Yet my only red champ without H Ichigo is my main that i don't upgrade at all. So my red hogu will be useless for the time being.

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-1-29 11:49:04

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-29 06:20
Red hogyoku doesn't require a red partner if that's what you wanted to say, so don't worry about t ...

Tavren Starkk and Ichigo are way better then Demon what are you talking about...

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-29 11:55:32

i have senbon with vip 4 i grabbed demon ichigo my current van is shin shura kenny ehat do u guys think? ?

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-1-29 11:59:52

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-29 11:55
i have senbon with vip 4 i grabbed demon ichigo my current van is shin shura kenny ehat do u guys ...

Get a tavren starkk or ichigo

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-29 12:00:51

Edited by [email protected] at 2017-1-29 18:49

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-29 17:55
i have senbon with vip 4 i grabbed demon ichigo my current van is shin shura kenny ehat do u guys ...

Noza>Demon

Demon>Shin shura ken

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-29 12:01:36

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-1-29 17:49
Tavren Starkk and Ichigo are way better then Demon what are you talking about...

If you say so sensei

I apologize

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-1-29 12:08:57

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-29 12:01
If you say so sensei

I apologize

Fuck vanguards, they are for weak players

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-29 12:27:55

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-1-29 18:08
Fuck vanguards, they are for weak players

Mayuri and yachiru for the win. Just ask mayuri hahahaha

author: Shiki_fujin time: 2017-1-29 12:58:52

vip players buahhh u have fear and say vg are for players weak

why do u buy a team lev sss and everything ?

because u are a weak.
demon or stark is indifferent . red part than tavern aren't top. in you better idea look to one player with demon and stark red. maybe he can to help you vision on them. stat of dem second me are good

author: chiko88soem time: 2017-1-29 13:00:16

Shiki_fujin replied at 2017-1-29 18:58
vip players buahhh u have fear and say vg are for players weak why do u buy a team lev sss and ...

what?

author: ~TensaZangetsu~ time: 2017-1-29 13:03:32

Shiki_fujin replied at 2017-1-29 20:58
vip players buahhh u have fear and say vg are for players weak why do u buy a team lev sss and ...

Vg ain't for weak players, enough said, stupid pleb

author: Chihiro135 time: 2017-1-29 13:09:01

Edited by Chihiro135 at 2017-1-29 20:10

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-29 12:46
I double this post

Get it right ppl, growth rates don't matter here, demon blows both tavern vang ...

is he really that much better? wish I could see a lvl 110 demon ichigo stripped down to compare...

I do have a red hogu from events lol, and it's a stamina one so pretty much perfect for a red vang

I haven't overly worked on my current Ichigo, he's first reinc and red but pretty much nil evo.

If demon ichigo is worth the work then I'm happy to do it. Just want to choose one vang and make it endgame. I'm low vip so no moza for me, this is it. Unless Ichibe comes in UBP lol

author: Miken97 time: 2017-1-29 13:14:05

Edited by Miken97 at 2017-1-29 19:22

chiko88soem replied at 2017-1-29 19:00
what?

Don't worry, I hired group of experts who are trying to decode Shiki_fujin's message. Soon we will know what he is trying to say

. They will also determine if it has some possible connection to Illuminati

author: chiko88soem time: 2017-1-29 13:38:21

Miken97 replied at 2017-1-29 19:14
Don't worry, I hired group of experts who are trying to decode Shiki_fujin's message. Soon we will ...

Nice send me the translation when they are finished

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-1-29 13:46:00

Shiki_fujin replied at 2017-1-29 12:58
vip players buahhh u have fear and say vg are for players weak why do u buy a team lev sss and ...

Ofc we have fear after all we are just a humans...

author: chiko88soem time: 2017-1-29 13:49:58

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-1-29 19:46
Ofc we have fear after all we are just a humans...

well not everyone might be a human

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-1-29 13:58:58

chiko88soem replied at 2017-1-29 13:49
well not everyone might be a human

Well yeah some of us are half human half hollow like Shik Fujini, he went in bersek hollow form so nobody cant understand what he wrote there

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-1-29 13:59:31

Shiki_fujin replied at 2017-1-29 12:58
vip players buahhh u have fear and say vg are for players weak why do u buy a team lev sss and ...

Are you a Hollow maybe?

author: hairytoilet time: 2017-1-29 14:32:31

Shiki_fujin replied at 2017-1-29 12:58
vip players buahhh u have fear and say vg are for players weak why do u buy a team lev sss and ...

I'm sorry to say this, but it appears you're missing a couple chromosomes there buddy

author: djomla27 time: 2017-1-29 17:47:50

wait for zanpakuto,and keep stacking....or wait if mugetsu or something like that that's my opinion

author: chiko88soem time: 2017-1-29 19:25:42

hairytoilet replied at 2017-1-29 20:32
I'm sorry to say this, but it appears you're missing a couple chromosomes there buddy

LMAO

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-1-29 20:24:42

stopped reading after the first few posts... look people...  red upgraded tavern partners are not twice as good as they were when they started... not even close!!

Demon Ichigo DESTROYS Hollow Ichigo,  Demon Ichigo DESTROYS Starrk

Demon Ichigo is still a 40,000 gold partner...  He cost more than TSI does, because...  he...is...better...

Demon Ichigo vs Hollow Ichigo...    Demon's got better stats, better skill, more swag, a better looking skill animation, and more intimidation factor vs foes...  granted 3 of these have no real bearing in the game, they are icing on the cake...

The ONLY place that Red Hollow Ichi wins in is that he can wear warrior hogus...  but even with that, Demon wins, hands down so far, i'm a quadriplegic damnit....

and to every single person here even trying to suggest that Red Hollow Ichi is better than Demon Ichi... shame on you, your obviously not bright enough to be giving advice you fool

no offense, lol

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-1-29 20:26:41

KoroSu96 replied at 2017-1-29 05:16
That's my problem ATM i focus on my team with a defence vg (2-2-1) and my kazeshini has 50 on all ...

block damage comes off without that 40% reduction... his skill gives more block, and with features, you can get his block over 160% easily... even without a Vang-friendly zan, D Ichi wins

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-1-29 20:28:23

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-29 05:46
I double this post

Get it right ppl, growth rates don't matter here, demon blows both tavern vang ...

right? If you have a high enough level tier 12 hogu, then you probably have a top tier Zan, lol

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-1-29 20:32:36

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-29 12:00
Noza>Demon

Demon>Shin shura ken

I don't know... it depends on your build IMO... I can see D Ichi winning vs Noza here... sure, Noza is the block master... but with the mods being as fluid as they are now, you can get plenty of block out of Ichi, plus his skill gives 15% more... plus he has more regeneration... Depending on build, ichi can take him out

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-1-29 20:34:47

Chihiro135 replied at 2017-1-29 13:09
is he really that much better? wish I could see a lvl 110 demon ichigo stripped down to compare...
...

since your low VIP, and won't be topping up for a vang in the future... if you have the vit for D Ichi, you'd be a fool to pass him up... just my opinion

author: MasterOfBonkai time: 2017-1-29 23:13:22

IDK...RANDOM COMMENT HERE

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-1-29 23:48:38

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author: MasterOfBonkai time: 2017-1-30 00:11:20

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-1-29 23:48
i agree with this guy

HAHAHA TRUE

author: Chihiro135 time: 2017-1-30 02:36:27

Edited by Chihiro135 at 2017-1-30 09:37

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-30 03:24
stopped reading after the first few posts... look people... red upgraded tavern partners are not ...

Lol so just a hunch, but i'm guessing you're lobbying for Demon Ichigo then

I have enough vit for him so vit isn't the problem, is he tanky enough? His skill is def better but someone posted earlier that he's a great offensive vang and tavern Ichigo is better defensive

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-1-30 04:21:09

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author: dhkiss time: 2017-1-30 05:01:33

I still go with my Starrky boy fuu D.Ichi or H.Ichi

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author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-30 05:02:13

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-30 02:32
I don't know... it depends on your build IMO... I can see D Ichi winning vs Noza here... sur ...

Ofc he can, but question. How many of these plebz will be able to build him to take your noza or my starrk out?
Answer truthfully

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-30 05:03:06

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-30 02:28
right? If you have a high enough level tier 12 hogu, then you probably have a top tier Zan, lol

Yap

1+1=2

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-30 05:03:58

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-30 02:24
stopped reading after the first few posts... look people... red upgraded tavern partners are not ...

I double this

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-30 05:04:28

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-30 02:34
since your low VIP, and won't be topping up for a vang in the future... if you have the vit for D ...

And this one

Now i'm abandoning this thread fureeeeeevaaaaa

author: dhkiss time: 2017-1-30 05:07:45

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-30 12:04
And this one

Now i'm abandoning this thread fureeeeeevaaaaa

they underestimate Sarrky boy power

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-30 05:57:50

dhkiss replied at 2017-1-30 11:07
they underestimate Sarrky boy power

Prepare yourself Hara Kiri says he's bringing heat

#VanguardWars

#StarrkVsDemon

author: SLNPWNZ time: 2017-1-30 06:23:46

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-30 13:02
Ofc he can, but question. How many of these plebz will be able to build him to take your noza or m ...

Can you show your Starrk please? Want to fap <3

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-30 06:33:14

SLNPWNZ replied at 2017-1-30 12:23
Can you show your Starrk please? Want to fap

I stoped stacking him and he's a low lvl scum, i don't feel like showing him anymore

author: dhkiss time: 2017-1-30 06:41:39

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-30 12:57
Prepare yourself Hara Kiri says he's bringing heat

#VanguardWars

huuh it's gonna be bloody #StarrkVsDemon

author: dhkiss time: 2017-1-30 06:52:29

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-30 13:33
I stoped stacking him and he's a low lvl scum, i don't feel like showing him anymore

ur starrk was my idol back few months ago , don't give up on him

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-30 07:40:17

dhkiss replied at 2017-1-30 12:52
ur starrk was my idol back few months ago , don't give up on him

I ain't giving up on him ever, I'm just balancing my team atm. Focusing a lot on pve and stuff, especially on b.renji. I won't get to make my starrk strong at the end if i don't up my silver game etc. bcs i kind of reached max potential with him as far as pvp goes, now i need to support my niggz with other partners hahahahaha

author: Shiki_fujin time: 2017-1-30 10:44:50

MylarHyrule is right, i agree with he. i update my hollow i. from tavern in red it is a mule.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-1-30 13:15:51

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-30 06:33
I stoped stacking him and he's a low lvl scum, i don't feel like showing him anymore

um... are you just replying to everything? your going for that status hua? lol

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-1-30 13:16:17

[email protected] replied at 2017-1-30 05:02
Ofc he can, but question. How many of these plebz will be able to build him to take your noza or m ...

3 only 3... maybe one more

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-1-30 13:16:59

Chihiro135 replied at 2017-1-30 02:36
Lol so just a hunch, but i'm guessing you're lobbying for Demon Ichigo then

I have enough vit ...

that person has no idea what they are talking about... yes D Ichi is offensive, but is still more defensive than H Ichi

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-30 13:35:05

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-30 19:15
um... are you just replying to everything? your going for that status hua? lol

Hahahahaha. Wasn't planing on it. But i won't mind it. Don't put me down, you already have it. Let me spread my wingz too <3

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-30 13:37:12

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-1-30 19:16
that person has no idea what they are talking about... yes D Ichi is offensive, but is still mor ...

I bet i could make my shini Kensei have more hp then every Hollow ichi ingame

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-30 22:29:42

its only good if u can afford top up and make it good really.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-1-30 23:51:21

hmmmmm interesting

author: Chihiro135 time: 2017-1-31 03:22:31

Shiki_fujin replied at 2017-1-30 17:44
MylarHyrule is right, i agree with he. i update my hollow i. from tavern in red it is a mule.

is mule good or bad lol

author: djameldjdj time: 2017-1-31 03:54:24

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

author: kinghollow1 time: 2017-2-1 10:15:34

talking about demon ichis did this guy think he can get 2 of them

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author: kinghollow1 time: 2017-2-1 10:16:46

Xallog replied at 2017-2-1 15:16
I'm not sure what's worse, the fact he wasted all his vit after getting d.ichi, or people who only ...

Damn that was fast af

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author: Chihiro135 time: 2017-2-1 13:13:30

kinghollow1 replied at 2017-2-1 17:15
talking about demon ichis did this guy think he can get 2 of them

he's obv going for the title lol such a waste...

Would be priceless if Hiki or Koga comes one month from now for 50K crystals

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2017-2-1 13:15:35

no he's not get Starrk

author: kinghollow1 time: 2017-2-2 09:01:04

Chihiro135 replied at 2017-2-1 18:13
he's obv going for the title lol such a waste...

Would be priceless if Hiki or Koga comes one mon ...

Yeah actually tensa would be much better

author: Chihiro135 time: 2017-2-2 09:42:50

kinghollow1 replied at 2017-2-2 16:01
Yeah actually tensa would be much better

Tensa UBP! it'll happen, one day...

They may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one..

author: kinghollow1 time: 2017-2-3 08:54:21

Chihiro135 replied at 2017-2-2 14:42
Tensa UBP! it'll happen, one day...

They may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one..:loveli ...

Its probably every players dream that tensa would be in ubp the time they have enough vit

author: Xallog time: 2017-2-3 08:56:17

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