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author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-28 13:26:58 Title: Cross Server Battle - top 19 rankings - battle point doubt

So if you are in the top 19, then you will face the same set of opponents(their position might change in the lanes).

Say you are 11th in position, so ranking from 1-19 will be shown in CSB.

Now placesments are (rough examples)
SSS: 1-2
SS: 3-6
S:    7-15 , 44 hollow soul points
A:    16-36, 32 hollow soul points

So if i can finish the bottom lane, i can get atleast 124 shinigami points per day. so those in rank 1-13 are safe that they will atleast get 124 shinigami points per day now.

Now regarding hollow soul points. I used to fight the strongest bp person in the lane, if i get defeated by a very high margin, then i don't try at all and neither do i fight the other lower bp ones. But now that i am in the top 1-20, and am in placement S, hence was thinking if i attempt all my fight chances in csb so that i gain points and maybe i can reach further to SS even without defeating those in SS.  I am in 11th position, there is a 9th position guy in the second last lane whom i cant defeat as he is way stronger than me. we are 500 odd battle points away from each other. and the 6th guy(last SS person) is around 2000 battle points away from me. So incase someone from SS,SSS doesn't play , then i might get a chance later to go up the ranking not by defeating them but by getting more points. If so then i would get more hollow soul points and still have to fight the rank 13-19 ppl in the bottom lane without the top ppl coming in that lane.

So wouldn't it be good for me to finish all chances to get more battle points in my current scenario?

thanks

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-28 14:54:32

more point the better

author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-28 15:40:16

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-28 23:54
more point the better

oh ok,

noticed one thing
if i lose i get 2 pts
but if i win, i am not sure how the pts are based on, i got say 20,200,500 pts from diff wins in the same lane from similar bp ppl.

any idea how the points are calculated?

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-11-28 20:26:53

somehow this point system is bugged. sometimes u get more sometimes u get less regardless u clear all the lanes...

n some got bugged n their points went doubled up...

sigh....

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-29 04:52:23

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-11-29 03:54

ajoalex replied at 2014-11-28 14:40
oh ok,

noticed one thing

I don't see you getting no 500 points per win.

I know in SSS it's 20 points per win, figure it's the same in all ranks. Also, you get the same amount of souls daily for 1st and 2nd place I know. Maybe 3rd to, which is 60 hollow souls.

Also SSS has nothing to do with being 1st or 2nd, for the first few days I was the only SSS in my group, #2/3 was SS, when he got to a certain BP or PvP BP, Masaki become SSS. I was winning in first for a week or so till he started spamming the 200gold extra battles to pass me.

author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-29 06:42:02

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-29 13:52
I don't see you getting no 500 points per win.

I know in SSS it's 20 points per win, figure it's t ...

i will give you an example.
before yesterday's csb, i was placed in 11th rank.
the 10th rank guy was from my server only.
considering we don't take the points that me and him had yesterday, check the points now below
i am in 8th position, he is in 11th
i have 8617 pts, he has 7845pts ie a 772point lead.

i do remember one thing, when i was defeating ppl, i would get a 20pt increase, and when i would lose i would get a 2 point increase (i didnt check for all the fights though). there was this one last fight i attempted, i lost while having zabimaru ie got 2 pts, then i equipped kazeshini and won and that is the game which i am 100% sure that i got a 500 pt for.

Also SSS has nothing to do with being 1st or 2nd, for the first few days I was the only SSS in my group, #2/3 was SS, when he got to a certain BP or PvP BP, Masaki become SSS. I was winning in first for a week or so till he started spamming the 200gold extra battles to pass me.

if so then what is the use of the battle points? anyways the ordering is based on the bp, and if hollow souls are given based on arena rankings, then what exactly are the battle points used for?
what is the point of telling that player A is first rank and player B is second rank when player B is only the highest in points and not in the csb fight, player B could be 4th or 5th then.

thanks

author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-29 13:44:43

ok so this happened again.

csb starts, ranking is 8617
defeated bottom lane, 6 ppl in first chance, ranking becomes 8737. confirmed by 8617+ (6x20)=8737chances used = 6

second last lane, defeated 3 ppl in first chance, ranking becomes 8797, confirmed by 8737+ (3x20) = 8797
chances used = 3

now the fourth guy is the person whom i received some 500 pts from yesterday. yesterday i fought with him using zabi and lost, then used kazeshini. today tried with zabi itself and won in first chance, now ranking becomes 9215 . so i got 418pts ie 9215-8797=418 from attacking him. So yes, we get points more than 20 in csb too.
chances used = 1

now fought the fifth guy(whom i still cant beat), and lost, played 8 times with him, so 8x2=16. and yes my current points are 9215+16=9231
chances used = 8

total chances used =6+3+1+8=18

author: Evild4nte time: 2014-11-29 14:47:02

I think it 1 sss at the start. Later at some BP or Points there is a 2nd one ranking up to SSS.
I think its not possible to have 3 SSS in one CSB Zone.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-29 16:20:10

ajoalex replied at 2014-11-29 05:42
i will give you an example.
before yesterday's csb, i was placed in 11th rank.
the 10th rank guy ...

HOllow soul reward has nothing to do with arena rank. It's CSB rank. PVP BP is what is used to see what opponents you are faced with, and I'm pretty sure it gives you a SSS rank at a certain #. Hollow soul reward amount is based on where you end the day in CSB rank, #1/2/3 ect.

As for points, I still say it is impossible to get 500 points for one single fight. At SSS rank for clearing all battles you only get 360 points max for winning all fights. That's how it has been for us since it started.

If you are getting way more than 20 then it's probably a bug, and needs reported because you shouldn't be getting more than that. I got 13,498 points. Ever since it started, I get 20 points per win. 2 points for a loss. First place in my rank is at 13,574, he gets the same points, but he spammed extra battles to pass me with gold, as he started out first several days at rank SS. Nobody in my group has ever got more than 20 for a win, especially not 500.

author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-29 16:43:16

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-30 01:20
HOllow soul reward has nothing to do with arena rank. It's CSB rank. PVP BP is what is used to see ...

i didnt mean the arena rank, i meant the csb ranking.
so yes i just need points to reach a higher level to get better hollow souls and not actually defeat those above me. so that is cleared.

well its possible in my last two chances only, maybe its a bug, i will check tomorrow too .

author: gr8nesh18 time: 2014-11-29 17:03:29

1st-2nd SSS = 60
3rd -> SS = 50
S = 44

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-29 20:31:35

I had a similar exp today, got an extra 100 points form nowhere, didn't give too much though but when i recall i have beaten a dude with more than 70k bp than me, i lost to him 5 times and i won, my guess, ofc when you lose you get 2 points,

Is it possible since i lost 5 times, the one win i got after is made like that : 20 * (5 times i lost) = the 100 points i got;

It has a certain logic somewhat,

author: fcalife time: 2014-11-29 21:07:20

The one time I beat obama, the guy in firts row (he had pve formations on) I got a hefty point boost; roughly 100-150 extra points that day.

author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-29 21:59:30

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-30 05:31
I had a similar exp today, got an extra 100 points form nowhere, didn't give too much though but whe ...

yes it does have, cos when i tried to defeat a guy, i lost, then i changed zanpakuto and i won. thats when i got 500 pts. guess we are lucky.

also i dt think this is a bug as i dt see the point system being mentioned anywhere, so its something we just dunno the calculation of

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-11-29 23:56:59

hmmmm... yeah from all this info u all shared... i think...

i face the same thing about points in CSB...

so lower BP n can win higher lvl players u ll get more... dang... than those ppl sittin on top will not get the benefit i guess...
coz they ll earn much lesser... i use to regis nekkid n then hit to clear all n gotten more points... now i regis higher...
n when i clear all rows... i get lesser points...

nowonder the guy behind me hav closen the gap...

this CSB is realli screwed... at least they should hav come up wit a better point system...

author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-30 03:14:09

PAOFUI replied at 2014-11-30 08:56
hmmmm... yeah from all this info u all shared... i think...

i face the same thing about points in ...

we are talking about csb points and not shinigami points. you too are on the same track right?

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-11-30 03:20:45

ajoalex replied at 2014-11-30 02:14
we are talking about csb points and not shinigami points. you too are on the same track right?

yeah csb points...

well i guess till now oso i dun realli know how it calculate the points...

but i know lower ranks n lower lvl get more points clearin to the top

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-30 05:35:29

ajoalex replied at 2014-11-30 09:14
we are talking about csb points and not shinigami points. you too are on the same track right?

Gonna see what happens today and confirm this assumption

author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-30 06:20:04

gr8nesh18 replied at 2014-11-30 02:03
1st-2nd SSS = 60
3rd -> SS = 50
S = 44

awesome, so i just need to increase in points to get to SS or SSS so as to get more hollow spirit souls .

now the csb points make sense . i dont even need to defeat the one ahead of me in ranking, i just need to get more points than him and try to get to a better placement.

that solves it, thanks

author: KHONHAX time: 2014-11-30 07:31:59

I'm lv95, lost 2 times to a lv100 and then beat him. The opponent in question was quite a bit stronger but when I beat him, I cleared row 2 in S rank (he was the last opponent) and went from 7599 points to 8.1k. I'll leave it up to you guys to work on the algorithms for CSB point allocations ^^

author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-30 08:01:47

KHONHAX replied at 2014-11-30 16:31
I'm lv95, lost 2 times to a lv100 and then beat him. The opponent in question was quite a bit strong ...

when i got my 500 pts i didnt clear the lane. it was the second last guy on the lane. and yes i didnt beat the last guy in that lane.

author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-30 15:30:59

again the same, got 359 pts. nice

author: sivernz time: 2014-12-4 20:15:03

i cant find the reg for CSB today? is the season end or it is a bug?

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-4 20:35:01

today got 430 beating 9 people and losing to the rest;

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-4 20:35:33

sivernz replied at 2014-12-5 02:15
i cant find the reg for CSB today? is the season end or it is a bug?

the season has finished man don't ask me why but it has, i received a final reward 1 hour ago

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-4 23:01:05

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-29 15:20
HOllow soul reward has nothing to do with arena rank. It's CSB rank. PVP BP is what is used to see ...

the hollow souls are based on class rank such as SSS, SS, S, A and so on.. those are ranks are determined by your point ranking at the end of the day... however there will be more of those in SSS and so on as more player join CSB. thus increasing the spread. A rank used to start when it first opened at rank 7 or 8.. atm its starting at rank 20 meaning alot more joined the CSB season.

SSS gets 60 hollow souls a day on that class.

S gets 44 a day
A got like around 32 if i remember a day..

So Advantage is to those who hold a higher class rank in getting the hollowed souls at the cost of sometime not being able to beat the first row of the days fights.

author: ajoalex time: 2014-12-5 02:35:57

[email protected] replied at 2014-12-5 05:35
the season has finished man don't ask me why but it has, i received a final reward 1 hour ago

it said it was supposed to finish on the 8th, but it finished 3 days before. weird

author: ajoalex time: 2014-12-5 02:45:33

the next season, will it be with the same ppl or another different servers?

author: adventurethis time: 2014-12-5 02:50:16

I finished ranked 7th SS, got 50 hollow per day
60 stones for the end of season reward + 22 hollow for being rank 7 and 80 hollow for being SS

author: ajoalex time: 2014-12-5 03:28:10

adventurethis replied at 2014-12-5 11:50
I finished ranked 7th SS, got 50 hollow per day
60 stones for the end of season reward + 22 hollo ...

6th rank S, 44 hollow
60 stones, 22 hollow and 72 for being S

author: adventurethis time: 2014-12-5 03:48:20

how many challenge stones did people end up with..i finished on 660 which is pretty disappointing considering they cost 4k to 8k

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-12-5 04:45:44

well i would say this CSB is rather disappointing... at the same time... i had my lil fun too bcoz of 1 oppoent... who made me think quite a lil
in order to win him...

almost everyday or 2... he upgrades a lil n i got to upgrade too... so tht our points wont go far apart...

disappointin part is... there was bug points... n the no.1 got it twice... n got a huge start up... well its possible to chase wit super challenge...
but then again its not worth it... usin $ vs bugs... NO NO ...

it was reported by a few ppl... or even more... but no action was taken... thanx support... for basically doing nothin n denying the true winner of
the CSB...

in all i got like 40k points ++ n i got like 2400+ stones... i din bother to count the hollow souls tho...

anyway i considered myself finishin last...

also the fact tht... most of us din know... tht 5th was the closing date... instead of the 8th which is shown on the CSB page itself...

at least if i know its 5th... i might wanna spam a lil gold n get the title i wanted to get b4 i quit tho...

also support hav promise me compensation but till today i ve yet to see it... once again thanx ... u din care about ur players...

i ve got more n more frenz leavin the game... sigh...

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-5 06:45:23

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-5 08:45
the next season, will it be with the same ppl or another different servers?

I hope for different people in eu servers,we had the crazyest people this time with an average of 600K BP so hope next time a little easier since i only made 400 stones with this; if it stays like that i'll have to wait 10 seasons to recruit one of them

author: ajoalex time: 2014-12-5 10:55:37

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looks like the next season starts on 20th of this month. not sure but hope so its the 20th of this month.

author: ajoalex time: 2014-12-5 10:59:22

rule no 6, players will get points according to battle results and the current enemy's points.

in no place does it say that one has to get only 20 pts for winning and 2 pts for losing. So there is some algorithm here i guess.

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