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author: ajoalex time: 2014-11-29 11:12:27 Title: healer Unohana for PvE, and some other related queries

I am planning to get unohana at lvl 90 and i havent used any other healer before apart from nemu that too for a very short while. I like the 100% extra reiatsu hp buff hence thinking of getting unohana for pvp.

reg pve, how would she fare? just thinking by the facts that she can heal, would she do wonders in ryoka, guild wars and esp seretei? I know ES is out of the question as you anyways have 5 tries before you are wiped off.

A)So if i replace my tavern yoruichi with unohana at lvl 90 would i get the same damage as compared to yoruichi and will i last more and maybe get more damage thanks to being healed? i am interested in this esp for ryoka, gw, and seretei
-ryoka , i deal abt 7.5m damage, would i get to deal more thanks to unohana healing?
-gw, i just go with my 10th skill and normal pvp formation here, do i get a better hp cos of unohana here?
-seretei, this is interesting, cos if i skip my first defend battle, my hp reduces to half eventhough it reduces by only 10% if i don't skip the match, will unohana be helpful here to not reduce the hp by the 50% ?

B)unohana vs barragan, who is better in terms of hp regen and attack , and suitable for pvp and pve(am not asking for the best but the better that can suit both nicely as i dont have gold reishi to get more than one at lvl 90).

C)also my current setup , 1-2-2 sajin/main-ikkaku/yoruichi-rukia my default pvp formation, could you tell if they are fine?
-ES, 0-3-2, swap sajin with renji, thanks to the block sajin has , renji does a damage and then blocks back a better damage each time ES hits.
zanpakuto - zabimaru hogyoku kai
skill - 9th soul skill
damage - 4.4m

-GW, 1-2-2 default pvp formation
zanpakuto - zabimaru hogyoku kai
skill - 10th soul skill

-ryoka, 0-3-2, swap sajin with renji, thanks to the block sajin has , renji does a damage and then blocks back a better damage each time ES hits.
zanpakuto - zabimaru hogyoku kai
skill - 9th soul skill
max damage 10m
can one shot till wave 15

- seretei, 1-2-2 default pvp formation
zanpakuto - zabimaru hogyoku kai
skill - 10th soul skill

thanks

author: KHONHAX time: 2014-11-29 16:02:16

Edited by KHONHAX at 2014-11-29 23:20

I got her yesterday and it made a nice improvement in pvp. She dies the 2nd time my opponents use 10th skill but by then she healed 2-3 times so my VG and AS would be close to if not full hp. Depending on your opponents, she could last a few battles in GW and PS but when she does, your VG and AS should barely be scratched ^^
If you use a 1-2-2 formation like me, theeeeeeeeen.... I'm using yoruichi and unohana as SP.

I haven't used her in ES or Ryoka but I say use 2-3 formation with rukia and urahara as SP like always for max dps.

She did wonders in espada #2 and made me last that round longer that I needed to win xD apparently she is needed for lv100 trial tower? Also I flew right by to floor 30 in lv95 soul palace without loosing once while before I got stuck at floor 27 or something when I did lv85 10 levels back (so im assuming she helped me a bit - I just skip battles unless I loose, then I replay so see why I lost and how to improve)

author: vio2k5 time: 2014-11-29 16:23:20

using a healer or status debuffer is a no no for ryoka, you'd only be cutting your own throat using them and nerfing your damage. you get 15 rounds to smack the crap out of the npc and if you go over that you get 1 hit. she wont help with you losing hp during protect unless during an actual fight. at the end of the fight if you win, you get some nice invisible fireballs thrown at you that give you some after damage which is why you'll probably notice the extra damage after each round where as she wont be able to heal that until the next match.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-29 16:39:50

[ U might need her in HolloW Souls since Bararagan can do tons of poison dmage ]

author: 595459354 time: 2014-11-29 16:50:57

vio2k5 replied at 2014-11-29 22:23
using a healer or status debuffer is a no no for ryoka, you'd only be cutting your own throat using ...

The battles in ryoka last 5 rounds.. after that the mob drops an atomic bomb.
She can be usefull if you want your VG alive after lvl52 because most ppl wil start dying by then.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-29 16:54:45

595459354 replied at 2014-11-29 15:50
The battles in ryoka last 5 rounds.. after that the mob drops an atomic bomb.
She can be usefull i ...

Keeping VG alive past 52 isn't hard, the ryoka doesnt do much dmg to the VG, I usually switch at wave 53 as I can still one shot wave 52. When I put Ichigo in as VG he takes barely any dmg and I've been up to wave 61 with him. Replacing a Urahara or Rukia with Unohana will kill anyone dmg by several million.

author: 595459354 time: 2014-11-29 17:07:25

Edited by 595459354 at 2014-11-29 23:16

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-29 22:54
Keeping VG alive past 52 isn't hard, the ryoka doesnt do much dmg to the VG, I usually switch at w ...

If you have alot of stones stacked on your vg it might not be hard but for those who experience difficulties, it may be a solution to prolong a fight and get more hits in than 1-2rounds.

Ps: Was more talking about the perspective of low vip/f2p, since it isn't that easy to keep your VG alive.
They would have to spend alot of coins in fortify, need lvl6/7+stones and a high reiatsu(50+)

author: vio2k5 time: 2014-11-29 18:06:01

595459354 replied at 2014-11-29 15:50
The battles in ryoka last 5 rounds.. after that the mob drops an atomic bomb.
She can be usefull i ...

was a typo, meant to write 5 rounds but didnt proof read after writing. the amount of rounds aside still doesnt change that what i said about using her is pretty much true, even for f2p / low vips. if they've reached that far in their server then its pretty much they'll be struggling anyway and even if they stack attack the same mob it'll take them a few deaths before they'll even kill it and besides while they are trying to kill them, the guys who were one hitting all the way upto 50+ will be laughing at them when they ninja in at the right time to take the final blow.

ajoalex dont get me wrong if you really want to be sure about it yourself it would be a good idea to test it but for me personally i'd rather keep the extra dps.

everythingswrong how far can you one hit upto in ryoka now? i saw you guys in ryoka the other day when i logged on a alt to check on the monster on your server and couldnt stop laughing at him going pure overkill with more and more fury stones.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-29 18:22:51

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-11-29 17:25

vio2k5 replied at 2014-11-29 17:06
was a typo, meant to write 5 rounds but didnt proof read after writing. the amount of rounds aside ...

My biggest hit was 37m or 38m. I usually do 31m-35m. I haven't maximized my damage yet either, like putting a full fury Urahara and Rukia to atk before everyone else in round 1, so I might can break the 40m mark when I do. I just get to lazy to set it all up as I got to do a lot of stone and gear rearranging to do that and it's annoying.

With full PvE team if they could live after wave 53 I dunno what they could do...that was with Ichigo as VG when I hit those top numbers, and my dmg area with him. That's also using 9th skill, though apparently you can do more with VG with 8th skill, but I dont use it as it's been unimpressive imo.

author: vio2k5 time: 2014-11-29 19:39:45

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-29 17:22
My biggest hit was 37m or 38m. I usually do 31m-35m. I haven't maximized my damage yet either, like ...

just to be sure is that one hitting upto 53rd wave? im floating around the 46th / 47th wave marker atm as im still tweaking my team, it's shown me a clear image of what you mean though by a lot of rearranging. I have to do a fair bit of that before going in to either ryoka or spirits.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-29 20:16:33

vio2k5 replied at 2014-11-29 18:39
just to be sure is that one hitting upto 53rd wave? im floating around the 46th / 47th wave marker ...

Whichever wave is 30m hp I can one shot...it's like 52 i think or 53. The 40m hp wave I fall short of one hitting.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-11-29 20:18:22

What Khonhax said sums it up, for pve = ryoka and ES no need, i'd say she can be usefull after you see your vg dies in 2 or 3 shots in ryoka, then put her with a 3 1 1 formation rukia and urahara combined,

If she can heal your main enough time to aim for the fifth round, rukia and urahara will boost some fury in him and make a fair amount of dmg in theory ofc. Also if you don't have zaraki yet go for it, your pve in es and ryoka will shoot up, meaning more silver to recruit unohana after him.

She'll make the diff in hollow map since all the people i know could kill baragan team thks to her.

Pvp which is not the subject, and with the extra hp boost will determine the winner between the one who has her and the one who doesn't, careful with those who have yoruichi, you'll need your yoru to be faster and ofc unohana slower.

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