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author: kawase time: 2014-12-2 09:37:30 Title: Get stark or stick with komamura

Edited by kawase at 2014-12-2 08:42

So it seems that the Hp buff has ruined things for many, some of the people who recruited barragan actually stopped using him.

I guess the same goes for stark. But seeing like how stark costs just as much as 2 reiatsu levels in terms of silver and the next VG (ichigo) is probably 1 more month away,

should i get stark to replace the wolfie? considering wolfie has tonnes of mods done like danku ( 8% immune ). while stark is just clean and shiny.

I've to clarify that i'm not getting him for PVP purposes since the damage he contributes isn't going to make much difference after the HP buff.

right now, wolfie has around 56k att with 72% dmg modify. he survives 3 (ublocked) hits from lv 53 ryoka

thanks in advance for advice!

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-12-2 09:40:43

f2p... keep ur sajin... n wait till u can get ichigo...

if u r spendin on stones.. n can make stark up... then hell yeah... stark is good...

or as some ppl say... if u got the greens... any partners in ur hands will be damm good...

so far for me i am using stark... n he has about 1m + hp... not tht high... but he sure can survive some hits...

author: kawase time: 2014-12-2 09:58:34

ur advice is too general pao. sorry to say it doesn't help much

since wolfie has 56k atk now, I'm assuming that my stark would have 60+ k atk. so i'll probably receive 40k of heal for each skill use?

But i'm seeing how wolfie is hitting people for 10-20k in the arena.. damage will not be the reason to switch to stark.

author: seremz2 time: 2014-12-2 10:09:47

f2p or p2p, starrk will be needed either way, but of course, more for p2p, especially at pvp combo'ed with vg zan, starrk is the best tavern vanguard, but yeah, if you've got no silver to spend for him now, just do it later

author: Brahmastra time: 2014-12-2 11:23:46

If you're not saving up vitality I suggest you just wait till you get Ichigo, assuming you want the most defensive vanguard you can get.
I replaced Shinji with Starrk last week (due to saving vit and slower leveling), major buff in everything so far and he heals himself. Then of course every higher level partner will be better. It really depends on how much silver you can waste on Reishi.

author: 595459354 time: 2014-12-2 12:02:57

PAOFUI replied at 2014-12-2 15:40
f2p... keep ur sajin... n wait till u can get ichigo...

if u r spendin on stones.. n can make sta ...

Are you using lvl10+sta stones? O_o

author: nieverland time: 2014-12-2 12:07:40

kawase replied at 2014-12-2 08:58
ur advice is too general pao. sorry to say it doesn't help much

since wolfie has 56k atk now ...

If you want an more tank vg maybe Noitra is your choice but only because his mods, hp and aid rate to Assaulters, Koma still better for ryoka, youre right Stark dont gonna make a lot of diference because you dont use a lot of atk stuff into your Koma, so IMO your options are wait with Koma till Hollow Ichigo or recruit Noitra

author: Brahmastra time: 2014-12-2 12:09:17

PAOFUI replied at 2014-12-2 08:40
f2p... keep ur sajin... n wait till u can get ichigo...

if u r spendin on stones.. n can make sta ...

Which server are you on? If I may ask that is.

author: nieverland time: 2014-12-2 12:10:10

seremz2 replied at 2014-12-2 09:09
f2p or p2p, starrk will be needed either way, but of course, more for p2p, especially at pvp combo'e ...

Sorry but IMO and most of the CN players Hollow Ichigo is better vg than Stark, why?? easy the aid rate is a lot better that only heal himself, btw Ichigo skill heal too, so to me Ichigo is like an combination of Noitra and Stark skills with better grow rate

author: seremz2 time: 2014-12-2 14:35:18

nieverland replied at 2014-12-2 11:10
Sorry but IMO and most of the CN players Hollow Ichigo is better vg than Stark, why?? easy the aid ...

well, in some case starrk heal more since he dealt damage to more ppl including supporter, assaulters, which didn't have much block stones, while ichigo deal damage only to the vanguard, but yeah, the aid rate is more helpful in my opinion too, but still, with vg zanpakuto, i think starrk is better, without it, definitely ichigo

author: ajoalex time: 2014-12-2 15:15:20

seremz2 replied at 2014-12-2 23:35
well, in some case starrk heal more since he dealt damage to more ppl including supporter, assault ...

is there any other vg zanpakuto better than zabimaru?

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-12-2 15:19:36

Brahmastra replied at 2014-12-2 11:09
Which server are you on? If I may ask that is.

sorry m8... but i would luv to keep it anonymous...

i am just a small fly...

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-12-2 15:21:25

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-2 14:15
is there any other vg zanpakuto better than zabimaru?

there is.. n i am usin it...

its hyorin... wit it... stark is much better...

thats y stark better than ichi for now... maybe later if i hav the spare rei...i might try him out...

n do some comparison...

author: Brahmastra time: 2014-12-2 15:49:15

PAOFUI replied at 2014-12-2 14:19
sorry m8... but i would luv to keep it anonymous...

i am just a small fly...

hahaha had a feeling
all good.

author: seremz2 time: 2014-12-2 21:10:37

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-2 14:15
is there any other vg zanpakuto better than zabimaru?

hyourinmaru, senbonzakura

author: Leitzur time: 2014-12-2 23:28:42

what's the minimum atk (before and after reiatsu) for stark to be decent?

so he can't be good with lv5/6 stones?

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-3 00:22:40

Are you a f2p player? or a low VIP?
Then..stick to Sajin until 110..
It is worthwhile to wait for ichigo within 1 month

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-3 09:53:59

i'd wait for ichigo

author: kawase time: 2014-12-5 09:55:45

Edited by kawase at 2014-12-5 09:08

Brahmastra replied at 2014-12-2 10:23
If you're not saving up vitality I suggest you just wait till you get Ichigo, assuming you want the ...

;p the cost of recruiting stark is just two rei levels away. probably two-three days of farming if i'm lucky. so i'm not really put off by the cost. but rather the Exp scrolls and the fragments. but then again. he's a nice one to collect.

my wolfie. but i've got some nice stuff saved up for stark when i get him at in 5 more lvs.

author: kawase time: 2014-12-5 10:02:17

nieverland replied at 2014-12-2 11:07
If you want an more tank vg maybe Noitra is your choice but only because his mods, hp and aid rate ...

thanks for the suggestion. noitra is huge and ugly i don't want him ^^ i know wolfie is ugly to some. but he's cute. much better than noi.

besides, it's silly if u reach lv 100 and recruit a lv 90 VG instead of a lv 100 one right?

author: kawase time: 2014-12-5 10:10:59

[email protected] replied at 2014-12-2 23:22
Are you a f2p player? or a low VIP?
Then..stick to Sajin until 110..
It is worthwhile to wait for ic ...

i'm a f2p

author: darknes2 time: 2014-12-5 10:44:36

kawase replied at 2014-12-5 13:10
i'm a f2p

Haha kawase come ooon

author: ajoalex time: 2014-12-5 10:45:30

a full mod sajin would be available at say minimum lvl 100, he would be better than a tier 1 stark right? i am just thinking about investing in sajin till lvl 110 so curious about the other higher tavern vanguards

author: nieverland time: 2014-12-5 10:52:12

kawase replied at 2014-12-5 09:02
thanks for the suggestion. noitra is huge and ugly i don't want him ^^ i know wolfie is ugly to so ...

not much if you need him in your team, im lv106 and maybe gonna recruit Byakuya, and agree i dont like Noitra thats why gonna keep Saijin till lv110 and get Hollow Ichigo

author: vio2k5 time: 2014-12-5 10:54:29

lvl 100 - stark - 2k gold reishi
available mod: +8% hp,, +8% strategy defense, +12% break defense rate, +10% immune rate*, +10% strength
Skill: Attack all enemy, amp 120%, increase self block rate by 15%, recover self hp by 50%.

lvl 110 - ichigo - 3.5k gold reishi
Available mod: +8% hp, +8% strategy defense, +12% block rate*, +12% dodge rate*, +12% immune rate
Skill: Attack enemy vanguard, amp 220%, increase allies assaulter aid rate by 60%, recover self hp by 45%

as you can see from that stark is more focused on the pvp side of the game where as ichigo is more focused on the pve side. This is just some information to review to help with the discussion so that others who dunno about this info can see it without searching.

author: kawase time: 2014-12-5 11:00:13

darknes2 replied at 2014-12-5 09:44
Haha kawase come ooon

hahaha din, sorry i'll have to sit in the 85 palace for awhile longer. got some new toys for ruk, ikakku and wolf

author: ajoalex time: 2014-12-5 11:03:28

vio2k5 replied at 2014-12-5 19:54
lvl 100 - stark - 2k gold reishi
available mod: +8% hp,, +8% strategy defense, +12% break defense ra ...

stark looks like an upgraded version of shinji.

ichigo has dodge, is he like an upgraded version of yachi? does block work nicely on him? say lvl 8 dodge stones ?

recover self hp by x%, does that mean x% of the damage received?

thanks

author: darknes2 time: 2014-12-5 11:03:35

kawase replied at 2014-12-5 14:00
hahaha din, sorry i'll have to sit in the 85 palace for awhile longer. got some new toys for ruk, ...

Btw how much gold for 90 set

author: kawase time: 2014-12-5 11:06:19

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-5 09:45
a full mod sajin would be available at say minimum lvl 100, he would be better than a tier 1 stark r ...

yup i'm waiting for someone who actually has both to comment.

since there's a hp buff now, stark should be able to stay alive longer for heal despite not having the defense that wolf has. besides, everyone's ikakku just prevent's wolf from using his defensive skill buff in Turn two. We're just talking about passive defense between the two.

author: kawase time: 2014-12-5 11:08:10

darknes2 replied at 2014-12-5 10:03
Btw how much gold for 90 set

2600

650G 20-40 fragments per try

but the game always gives u the worst u can get. which is 20-25. or maybe it's just me.

author: kawase time: 2014-12-5 11:10:18

Edited by kawase at 2014-12-5 10:13

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-5 10:03
stark looks like an upgraded version of shinji.

ichigo has dodge, is he like an upgraded version ...

stark recovers 50% of his Att as Hp. the formula is the same as the other healers. being a VG with nerfed Att.. it's not really substantial. but i suppose it will work with sampakto with bonus healing.

author: vio2k5 time: 2014-12-5 11:29:24

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-5 10:03
stark looks like an upgraded version of shinji.

ichigo has dodge, is he like an upgraded version ...

im not at a level to use either of them atm ajoalex, currently on my way to 94 but my plan is to go for ichigo when im at the right level. His hp regen is based on the damage he does to his opponent and considering that he has a 12% basis for dodge / block he should be good with both but that depends on if you use 6 stones and at what level they are. There was a image linked the other day that showed him with 1.5mil hp outside of battle which i thought was rather impressive. He does indeed look like a upgraded version of yachiru and hopefully a lot better than her too.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-5 23:27:27

kawase replied at 2014-12-5 23:10
i'm a f2p

damn! you're cute!

author: kawase time: 2014-12-7 09:38:57

Edited by kawase at 2014-12-7 08:50

[email protected] replied at 2014-12-5 22:27
damn! you're cute!

Being a f2p makes someone cute?

ok here's my incredibly cute f2p uno for u

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-7 14:37:16

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-12-8 03:40

kawase replied at 2014-12-7 22:38
Being a f2p makes someone cute?

LMAO

that's not what i mean...

author: inSec time: 2014-12-7 14:52:37

kawase replied at 2014-12-7 09:38
Being a f2p makes someone cute?

He means your photo pic

author: kawase time: 2014-12-19 11:07:08

Edited by kawase at 2014-12-19 10:08

Finally!! Some starrk sweetness which i'll never get sick of watching over and over.

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