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author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-15 22:01:14 Title: DONT KNOW WHO TO GET

im a lv79, still dont know who to get.

I will get kisuke, I just don't know which assualter to get, I like both pve and pvp, for pve I just want to hit ryoka to get the gift after the event, since ik that I can't even touch them till like lv115 or so. Pvp I like to dmg all, or focus on vanguard and then strike the others down.
I don't know who to get, byakuya or Ikkaku.

And should I get kisuke 1st?

author: Dengas time: 2014-12-15 22:12:56

well it depends on your pve formation if you should get urahara first or not, but if you want a great damage dealer then ikkaku is definitely your best choice, im currently level 86 and i already got ikkaku and im working on getting urahara to pair him with rukia for pve, so yeah i'd say that ikkaku is your best choice.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-15 22:23:03

ikkaku for silver hunting

Then recruit urahara for hax fury

author: Y3ll0w8utterfly time: 2014-12-15 23:53:07

[email protected] replied at 2014-12-15 21:23
ikkaku for silver hunting
Then recruit urahara for hax fury

Seems legit

author: DeEmEn time: 2014-12-16 18:47:57

[email protected] replied at 2014-12-15 21:23
ikkaku for silver hunting
Then recruit urahara for hax fury

I second that!

author: lmavenl time: 2014-12-19 19:54:16

If you feel you're doing a great deal of damage in both PVP & PVE get Urahara Kisuke first
for boost fury and then get ikkaku he is the best assaulter so far you can equip based on your level.

author: SACk25 time: 2014-12-27 09:52:25

Disgard Byakuya, he is quite useless.

Think twice about Urahara, if you already have Rukia, I'd rather keep with here.

Must go, Ikkaku. He is a nice damage dealer, and one of the best as.saulters available. You will probably use him until lvl 110, so don't waste your time and start to use it from now.

author: vio2k5 time: 2014-12-27 11:40:42

Edited by vio2k5 at 2014-12-27 16:55

SACk25 replied at 2014-12-27 14:52
Disgard Byakuya, he is quite useless.

Think twice about Urahara, if you already have Rukia, I'd rat ...

both rukia and uruhara are needed for decent damage early on in ryoka / evil spirits then you can only hope later on that you can get decent replacements from UBP, or if you're a gold spender enjoy spending 10k+ gold on them.

to the op, hopefully the rest of this info helps you.
teams for pve

if you're not good at csb and always cannon fodder for others, you should try to aim for this team.

Ikkaku, Ishida, Main, Uruhara, Rukia

if you seem to be doing ok in csb then replace either ishida or ikkaku with shura kenpachi.

a lot of players have different views on who to replace which is why i named both of them and left the choice in your hands and the same can be said for ikkaku and normal kenpachi when you hit lvl90+. also dont forget about the new characters you are able to get from hueco mondo attack they might be good too. I use a similar team to that already listed however at one point i was using normal kenpachi instead of ishida and was pretty much almost always 1st or 2nd on my server for ryoka / evil spirits. I switched him out for isshin and got a little boost in dps however still 1st or 2nd on the server for ryoka and on my best days easily hitting 1 billion points while for evil spirits, usually 1st now when i attend.

author: SACk25 time: 2014-12-27 14:35:20

vio2k5 replied at 2014-12-27 10:40
both rukia and uruhara are needed for decent damage early on in ryoka / evil spirits then you can o ...

Actually, that is just a "waste of fury" by using them both Urahara and Rukia you will lose some damage.

Let me explain myself with orange and apples.

Let me say your event formation is the next one:

Urahara - Rukia - Main - Ikkaku - Renji or Ken.

First of all you need to set up the correct speed for partners of it will be more wasting of fury.

Urahara gives 25 to all partners, meanwhile Rukia gives 30 to assaulters. Total = 55 extra fury. As long as they don't do a crit attack, if they do they will give 45 + 37 = 82 extra fury. Remember that, it is the key of the waste of fury.

Now, by doing normal attack, your assaulters will still need to do 1 more attack to fill the fury up, so it emans they will do 1 normal attack and 1 skill attack.

Now by doing crit attack, your assaulters except Ikkaku will have to do the same 1 normal attack then 1 skill attack, Ikkaku has the increase 25 fury after skill attack, he is the only one who can do skill attack continuosly as long as supports do crit attack and give him the max amount of fury.

It won't happen all the time so you will see that some time your final dmg is high other is lower than normal.

How to fix that? Good question:

I'd rather to use the next event formation:

Rukia - Ukitake - Main - Ikkaku - Ken (in my case)

Ukitake is a good support dmg dealer, so it will help you to do more final dmg, of course the higher dmg stones should be on him not on Rukia.

I've done to many tests and that are my finds. It is just as advice you are free to take it if you want.

Best Regards.

author: vio2k5 time: 2014-12-27 16:08:51

Edited by vio2k5 at 2014-12-27 21:17

sack dont take this the wrong way ok, im not attacking you with this post.

You said that you did a lot of experimenting to come to the conclusion that using both Rukia and Uruhara is a waste of dps. Did you ever use the two together combined to see how they work together in Ryoka or Evil Spirits?

The reason i ask this is due to you saying the following

"Now by doing crit attack, your assaulters except Ikkaku will have to do the same 1 normal attack then 1 skill attack, Ikkaku has the increase 25 fury after skill attack, he is the only one who can do skill attack continuosly as long as supports do crit attack and give him the max amount of fury."

Having both rukia and uruhara together there skills stack after the whole team does a normal attack on the first round. After that everyone in the team does continuous special attacks regardless, since having rukia and uruhara in the team keeps topping up the fury of the other members.

With regards to the setting up the speed this is the one thing i hated most when i did it cos it nerfed the crap out of my speed just to continue to do well in the pve events and dropped my ability in pvp. also with regards to fury, after it reaches a certain level that extra fury becomes extra dps.

author: SACk25 time: 2014-12-27 16:42:05

vio2k5 replied at 2014-12-27 15:08
sack dont take this the wrong way ok, im not attacking you with this post.

You said that you did a ...

Why should I take this in the wrong way? This is just a discussion about fury. xD

But I am not agree at all with you, cuz you will need always that your assaulters do one normal attack.

Let's try to count it:

First scenario: Rukia and Urahara attack first or last.

1st Round:

All partners in the party have to do 1 attack to fill it up. +100 fury.

2nd Round:

* Assaulters faster than support

Assaulters use special attack (skill) fury got 0.

Supporters use special attack (skill) they recovery 100 Fury and gives in normal 55 fury to assaulters.

* Support faster than assaulters

Supporters use special attack (skill) they recovery 100 Fury and gives in normal 55 fury to assaulters. Assaulters got 155 fury.

Assaulters use special attack (155 fury). They got 0 fury.

3er Round.

* Assaulters faster than support

Assaulters use normal attack. They will get 50 fury.

Supporters use special attack (skill) they recovery 100 Fury and gives in normal 55 fury to assaulters. At this point Assaulters are ready to use Special attack for next round.

* Support faster than assaulters

Supporters use special attack (skill) they recovery 100 Fury and gives in normal 55 fury to assaulters. Assaulters got 55 fury.

Assaulters use normal attack . They got 105 fury. Ready for next round.

4th Round.

* Assaulters faster than support

Assaulters use special attack (skill) fury got 0.

Supporters use special attack (skill) they recovery 100 Fury and gives in normal 55 fury to assaulters.

* Support faster than assaulters

Supporters use special attack (skill) they recovery 100 Fury and gives in normal 55 fury to assaulters. Assaulters got 155 fury.

Assaulters use special attack (155 fury). They got 0 fury.

And keep going.

2nd Scenario, considering Ikkaku recovery and crit fury from supporters on him. The only difference will be that he won't need to do one attack as long as I said that the support team give him max fury.

So as I said, they will need atleast to do 1 normal attack to their next special attack. Meanwhile Ukitake does 190% growth rate.

author: vio2k5 time: 2014-12-27 17:07:36

SACk25 replied at 2014-12-27 21:42
Why should I take this in the wrong way? This is just a discussion about fury. xD

But I am not ag ...

i never really had that problem when i used them.

1st round : full team does first attack
2nd round : full team specials
3rd round : full team specials
4th round full team specials and so on till death.

that was with uruhara, rukia, ken, ikkaku and main as my ryoka / spirits team.

only reason it was working like that was due to the order of attack that i followed, uruhara, rukia, main then rest. even though i followed that i noticed that there are some issues as previously mentioned lack of speed = loss in pvp ranking.

you also hit a brick wall with rukia which is a pain in the rear considering you cant upgrade her to be a gold character so that she wont be stuck using purple treasures while the rest of the team is using gold, unless you get dark rukia but upgrading her modifications will be a pain too.

author: SACk25 time: 2014-12-27 17:47:50

vio2k5 replied at 2014-12-27 16:07
i never really had that problem when i used them.

1st round : full team does first attack

Are you really watching the whole fight? cuz it is technically impossible to do that as long as your assaulters have a high level crit stones + Triple Crown Tittle.

Honestly, I did test that with a friend account and it not happened as you say.

You can't bypass the fury fill with normal attacks. Because the max fury you can get from supports is 82, still you will need 18 fury.

At next Ryokas watch out it carefully, and maybe you will notice that they don't always do special one.

author: vio2k5 time: 2014-12-27 18:00:39

SACk25 replied at 2014-12-27 22:47
Are you really watching the whole fight? cuz it is technically impossible to do that as long as you ...

that was a while ago and it was most likely cos of the triple crown title. I dont really get much chance to watch the matches as they play out anymore due to skip battle and if i dont then i miss 1-2 waves until wave 52. I can enjoy watching the matches more in evil spirits due to the long respawn times. Also im using a different team now than the one i used previously with a strong focus on uruhara / isshin and rukia being the slowest till i can be bothered to replace her.

author: SACk25 time: 2014-12-27 18:47:28

vio2k5 replied at 2014-12-27 17:00
that was a while ago and it was most likely cos of the triple crown title. I dont really get much ...

That was what I mean about my tests or experiments, I tracked the battle.

Also I can ensure you that at event you should use your fury partner at last.

Anyhow, good luck.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-28 15:58:48

ok, ty, i just got kisuke today, i need 1000 reishi more for ikkaku, can someone tell me how much that will cost me?

author: iz4n4minok4mi time: 2014-12-28 18:50:13

Agree, that adjusting speed is a pain. I usually spend almost 10 minutes before the event to adjust everything perfectly and then I have to put everything back to be ready for some pvp which is also a pain because i am using different assaulters and supports for pve and pvp for the most part. We need some equipment manager like in wow or something because this is seriously tiring me out...
Well it will cost you quite a bit, depends on luck. You will probably need around 50-60mil to get reishi for the partner himself and then additional few hundred reishi for exp scrolls to lvl him up.
So i would say be ready to save up over 70 mil..

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-5 09:47:55

[email protected] replied at 2014-12-28 21:58
ok, ty, i just got kisuke today, i need 1000 reishi more for ikkaku, can someone tell me how much th ...

3 mill silver = 35 gold reishi average

1000/35 = 28

28* 3mill = 85 mill silver average

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-5 10:19:49

60-70m for me in 1000 gold reishi in manual janken
i dunno why u pick kisuke first
it'll be hard for you to get silvers..

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-5 11:09:48

i didint want ppl to use their skills on my assulters, since im running 1-3-1, so i got kisuke to make it 1-2-2 so I dont die that fast

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-5 11:20:20

[email protected] replied at 2015-1-5 17:09
i didint want ppl to use their skills on my assulters, since im running 1-3-1, so i got kisuke to ma ...

Good call, in the long term you'll need him sooner or later, better have him fast; and yeah a 1 3 1 team is tough to manage against 10th skills, but it can be good when kisuke is final mod and t1 fury, also gin is very usefull with the 1 3 1 team, specially against 1 3 1 team

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-6 18:46:29

mhm, so now im tryin for ikkaku, pain getting all these money, souls, items.....

author: jeewoo_reyna14 time: 2015-1-6 20:07:58

[email protected] replied at 2015-1-6 17:46
mhm, so now im tryin for ikkaku, pain getting all these money, souls, items.....

HOW TO PLAY ?

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-7 19:43:58

jeewoo_reyna14 replied at 2015-1-6 19:07
HOW TO PLAY ?

what do u mean by how to play?

author: lmavenl time: 2015-1-17 06:25:46

Edited by lmavenl at 2015-1-17 03:35

jeewoo_reyna14 replied at 2015-1-6 17:07
HOW TO PLAY ?

You basically need to pay attention to every details that this game shows as you go on.
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