Bleach Online Forum

Title: Inherit Harribel Frags Efficiency [Print this page]

author: jimmycricketwin5298 time: 2017-4-7 20:10:21 Title: Inherit Harribel Frags Efficiency

Just wondering at what point I should inherit the Modify Frags for Harribel and Kisuke. Do I get her to level 3 Modify, then inherit, rinse and repeat? Or do I get get her last Mod and Inherit her then? Just wondering which point in time gives me the most return in a similar amount of time.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-4-7 22:56:54

you build up faster if you do it at 3rd, you spend less gold if you wait till full mod... I only mod tavern partners and tenjiro... you get better reward than the bullshit you get if you try to directly mod the partner you want

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-8 06:30:30

7th mod takes way to much time, i usually do 50-inherit at 5th mod on Tia. As for Kisuke - he seem quite useful with 7th mod so i keep him - even if you dont use him he can be great help vs certain set-up, imo he's much better than Shinso now.

author: SanekN time: 2017-4-8 06:56:29

I usually do inherit during Reio Guardian (The one that is over 50 gold)
Day 2
top up 200 gold = 1x Lvl 4 Agi Stone.
spend 500 gold = 1x Lvl 4 Agi Stone, 10x Golden Reishi, 10x Epic EXP Book
Treausre of the day = 8x Basic Fury Stone, 10x Epic EXP Book

author: jimmycricketwin5298 time: 2017-4-8 08:12:26

Thanks for the input guys! I'll make sure to keep your advice in mind. I'll definitely try to inherit during Reio in the coming event cycle

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-4-8 08:13:34

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-8 06:30
7th mod takes way to much time, i usually do 50-inherit at 5th mod on Tia. As for Kisuke - he seem q ...

you have never used Shinso have you?

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-8 12:19:58

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-4-8 07:13
you have never used Shinso have you?

He clearly hasn't. Spouting non-sense. I remember when Shinso was hands down the best partner available. One of the first T1 spam partners if not the first. Way better than Kisuke ever.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-8 20:41:21

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-4-8 08:13
you have never used Shinso have you?

shinso is crap - slow and no damage. I have used both, now i dont use any of em anymore cuz i have 3x t1 and Senju to make 4th t1. 7th mod kisuke is much more useful, especially vs hikifune teams.

oh, forgot to mention - noza suck aswell

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-4-8 22:00:00

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-8 20:41
shinso is crap - slow and no damage. I have used both, now i dont use any of em anymore cuz i have ...

lol you can't take me without a LOT of cash in your team... just sayin' I'd put my Noza up against 85% of the game and come out on top, although I will admit he should be much better when I get his exclusive skill

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-9 14:01:35

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-4-8 22:00
lol you can't take me without a LOT of cash in your team... just sayin' I'd put my Noza up again ...

C'mon, dont start to complain about cash in a pure p2w game. Also im not a big spender, but most likely i will take you down simply cuz of my level, set-up and dps.

Anyway is not what im arguing about, i just said that Shinso is obsolete character. Sure, you can stack him so he survives first 600-700k attack nuke from stronger players, but he does not have the damage to strike back (120% with 0% talent and 7% attack mod is a waste to stack him). This leaved him and Kisuke more or less on even ground, but unlike Shinso - Kisuke atleast can give 100 fury on death. Even if you have all T1 that 100 extra fury will still boost your damage a loot.

author: jimmycricketwin5298 time: 2017-4-9 14:09:04

I just want Shinso cuz he look gud and wanted him since he came out. Kisuke's Death Mod has saved me and helped me beat people with Hiki's, Oetsu's, and Kirin comps due to giving my Kirin another round to skill. Haven't used Shinso before so I can't compare the 2 tho

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-4-9 15:55:15

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-8 20:41
shinso is crap - slow and no damage. I have used both, now i dont use any of em anymore cuz i have ...

You are a NOOB. Shinso speed and damage seem weak now that there are way stronger partners, but for a F2P player he can be a beasted.

You clearly don't know the value of his last mod or the fact that his immunity rate can be built to one of the highest, if not the highest, for his quality. On top of that he combos and makes others combo better then any other partner I've seen while still having the chance to stun,that can also be built more.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-9 19:17:13

Edited by [email protected] at 2017-4-9 19:20

Jinzo67 replied at 2017-4-9 15:55
You are a NOOB. Shinso speed and damage seem weak now that there are way stronger partners, but fo ...

Sure, im a noob that came to this game 7 months before you. Your not just a noob but a retard aswell, if TC is asking about inherit he is not a f2p. Ps: oh also good luck with getting shinso as f2p, only a truly retarded person would waste 40-50k coupons for getting shinso as f2p without shinigami agent.

author: jimmycricketwin5298 time: 2017-4-9 19:23:50

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-9 18:17
Sure, im a noob that came to this game 7 months before you. Your not just a noob but a retard aswel ...

Bejita is Konishi gettin Shinso? He has like 200 C.Contracts doesn't he? lmao

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-9 19:45:28

idc what any1 says my shinso owns.

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-4-10 17:55:08

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-9 19:17
Sure, im a noob that came to this game 7 months before you. Your not just a noob but a retard aswel ...

First off i'd love to compare BP against someone who has 7 months on me. I'm down. (ranks too)

2nd: a real player would get ryumon and yama then get him from legion gallery.

3rd, my comment was directed straight at you cause your giving shit advice.

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-4-10 18:40:36

Tavren unohana is better then shinso and urahara, she skills everytime too

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-11 02:01:21

Edited by [email protected] at 2017-4-11 08:21

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-4-11 00:40
Tavren unohana is better then shinso and urahara, she skills everytime too

U can't compare tavern uno to 2 furygivers that do dmg within the lines of the discussion theyre having right now...

Anyways, yea they're all useful, though i would argue that kisuke & shinso serve different purposes, as does unohana.
Unohana is purely there to make your team survive, she can be useful. Sure.
Never personally seen a team where this strat works 100% of the time though. ( Usually the people these guys go against could win w/o her just as well as with her.)
Then there is Shinso, one of the strongest characters you can get as f2p, you might only get him after a long time playing, but it is possible and even as a low vip, shinso is def worth using as he can wreck whole teams.
And then there is kisuke, he used to be considered a "vanguard destroyer" due to the fact that if u set him up properly with enough break-def he could wreck an early game / mid-game vg.
Now he does near to 0 dmg to a properly set up team and is only there to die in most teams to give the rest of the team fury.
And yea this is a legit strat, but not one used by low vip players to win against stronger players, especially against a hiki cause u have no ignore invincibility on any free partners...
An entirely diff partner id bring into the low vip discussion is shunsui with excl skill, but that doesn't change the fact that shinso is, no matter if newer high vip players can't use him still very relevant in the low vip end of the spectrum.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-11 11:45:50

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-11 02:01
U can't compare tavern uno to 2 furygivers that do dmg within the lines of the discussion theyre ha ...

The main point with Kisuke at higher bp is that when he die misseraby from the first nuke - he restore 100 fury to WHOLE team. As for shinso is being best f2p partner - no, you could always grab B.Renji, Kensei, Shunsui or fat-ass VG from ubp. I think will also add zero-div trio to ubp soon and they are in completly different league compared to Shinso.

author: jimmycricketwin5298 time: 2017-4-11 14:36:53

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-11 01:01
U can't compare tavern uno to 2 furygivers that do dmg within the lines of the discussion theyre ha ...

Lmao I know you know that the Unohana was a troll, but it still makes me laugh you replied to it with a legit response. But yea, I agree the fury death mod is useless f2p on hiki, but I have Kirinji so it works.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-11 15:52:39

Edited by [email protected] at 2017-4-11 21:54

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-11 17:45
The main point with Kisuke at higher bp is that when he die misseraby from the first nuke - he res ...

Yea, but no guarantees that they will ever come back...
This is why Shinso would be the best one ^^ (After excl Shunsui :p )
I'm talking about guaranteed partners, ofc u can hope that they will release some partner in ubp soon, but no guarantees it wont be x-mas ichigo for the next 5 years, who knows when it's gogames xD

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-11 20:29:43

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-11 15:52
Yea, but no guarantees that they will ever come back...
This is why Shinso would be the best one ^^ ...

Well, there's Kyoka Suigetsu Aizen and Ogichi from CSB, not to mention toilet chair-sama. I would probably pick lv 120 set/accessories as a f2p, but still they'r superior in case somebody wants a good character.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-12 02:22:55

Edited by [email protected] at 2017-4-12 08:28

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-12 02:29
Well, there's Kyoka Suigetsu Aizen and Ogichi from CSB, not to mention toilet chair-sama. I would p ...

Bcs of him attacking every round, I would still say that Shinso is better than any Aizen except chair Aizen, the giving fury part is quite a nice bonus as well. I would still say that Shunsui with excl is still better than any of these, but tbh, all these characters are pretty close in terms of usefullness ^^
Damage wise, White Ichigo is def better than Shinso, though running them both is a very good team indeed, and seeing as hey don't conflict with each other in terms of getting them both, you can work your way towards them both at the same time :p
All partners have their own use, you completely dismissed a partners use and thats why several people went through this whole discussion with you.You can't just say a partner is irrellevant because you personally have no use for him, it doesn't mean other people using other formations don't :p

Oh yea, Noza doesn't suck either, just fyi...
Have you seen some of the noza's out there? They're insanely strong and heal every round bcs of hyorinmaru's buff to him. It's too much for even teams like yours sometimes.
A noza with hyorinmaru thats stacked can solo alot of teams completely...

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-12 06:23:26

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-12 02:22
Bcs of him attacking every round, I would still say that Shinso is better than any Aizen except cha ...

Nope, i said that he is enferior to to Kisuke after tavern partners got their 7th star. Shinso is not the best fury giver anymore and neither was the best character. Noza is useless in against many teams, lv70 exclusive is to much of a waste. Yes there is probably 1 of 100 Nozas that is properly stacked and is hard to kill, but that can apply to almost any character. I have been 1-shoted by tavern Byakua and also meet a psycho in HMA that stacked Yachiru (lv50 tavern VG) to the levels that i did 7-10 damage to her

But they could've done the same with any other character.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-4-12 11:30:41

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-11 11:45
The main point with Kisuke at higher bp is that when he die misseraby from the first nuke - he res ...

you can't add UBP into a F2P discussion... of course that event will drop partners stronger than Shinso, however, Shinso is more consistent and you can go get him anytime

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-12 22:33:22

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-4-12 11:30
you can't add UBP into a F2P discussion... of course that event will drop partners stronger than ...

You can get Chair, Kyoka Aizen and W.Ichigo aswell in theory. Im just saying it is not worth to waste all these resources on them. Two extra t11 and t12 hogus in Gins case and 4x lv 120 sets in Aizens case will do much greater help to a f2p player.

If Gin were red and had some wis-bonus in talent i would maybe agree with him being great for f2p, but he do almost no damage. Lollilover1446 is great example of why you should NOT stack Gin, this guy has all the potential to kill me and many other players, but DPS his Gin is doing is just not enough and that is with 50% Hiki damage buff. F2P Shinso will deal no damage at all after a certain point. Shinso is just a fury giver and kisuke can do just the same with a better death mod.

Sure you can grab him while having Shini-agent for collection sake, but waste tons of coupons as F2P is not worth it.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-4-13 08:31:59

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-12 22:33
You can get Chair, Kyoka Aizen and W.Ichigo aswell in theory. Im just saying it is not worth to was ...

I'll just have to disagree... I am VIP, and have had shini welfare since it came out, so my experience as F2P is non-existent... however, I know my Shinso is very nice... true he cannot stand up to the real supports (Hikifune, Oetsu, ect...) compared to F2P supports he seems very very nice... you can spend the coupons for him durring visored revenge, so your whole thing of he will cost you 2x tier 11 and 2x tier 12 hogus is bogus... he is a lot of work, and isn't a top tier support anymore, but he is for sure very nice... and for his crappy stun rate... mine is close to 75% atm, so that's not terrible for sure

author: faracorn time: 2017-4-17 19:03:19

my opinion is like some1 said you play as you want ofc if you use hirako as your vanguard you ll probably not be able to stand a chance against high lvl players but if you want to play with him in your team and you know what the consequences are so play with him as it goes for s.gin for me if you dont want to spend 200 bugs to take hiki take kyoraku . if you cant affort to take noza as vip5 i know alot of people who they dont want to spend money on the game take the h.ichigo or even the fucking Noitra(hate me

) . S.gin is for me one of the createst partners in the game a guy from my server. has took ryumon ikkaku and have s.gin hired to evo him and mod him (he can make him t1) i dont think is waste to spend on him if would like i could take him too but i prefer to focus on one support who is good (kyoraku) not 2.
team= kyoraku-urahara(kyoka aizen at some point)-yama-main-starrk zan hyorin

author: flameporo time: 2017-4-17 19:19:51

i am the guy with the ikkaku

author: X-Zero13 time: 2017-4-20 14:15:13

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-8 20:41
shinso is crap - slow and no damage. I have used both, now i dont use any of em anymore cuz i have ...

Oh, you used them both? I'm using kisuke now and I'm thinking about getting shinso to replace him. I'm hoping that Shinso would be faster, that'S pretty much the only thing that's important to me, because kisuke is hard to keep fast, even with the tavern upgrade (which I have, ofc).

So can you tell me: is there a chance I'd be faster with Shinso than with Kisuke? Cuz if not, there's no point for me in getting shinso.

author: jimmycricketwin5298 time: 2017-4-20 18:08:47

I really want Shinso, but the no fury upon death thing is puttin me off...Can you remod to get that one? I'll still get Shinso no matter what, but just wish I could get that mod on him

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-21 12:30:07

X-Zero13 replied at 2017-4-20 14:15
Oh, you used them both? I'm using kisuke now and I'm thinking about getting shinso to replace him. ...

R2 Kisuke is about as fast as Shinso. Maybe if you stack your Shinso with t11 maxed hogu and lv 11-12 stones he become a bit faster than Kisuke cuz of his 20% talent, but he still be slower than any red supporter - so i would not suggest doing that. Only good thing about Shinso is the mod that gives 10% speed for whole team. But now with 7th star uppdate you can just grab tavern Shunsui and get to that mod much faster.

Altrough if you have Shini agent and Ikkaku you can grab Shinso just for fun, imo he has cool animation. Just dont waste extra coupons on that.

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-4-21 13:03:18

jimmycricketwin5298 replied at 2017-4-20 18:08
I really want Shinso, but the no fury upon death thing is puttin me off...Can you remod to get that ...

No you cant, but get him he is way better then urahara even if tavren urahara is red shinso is still way better then him

author: X-Zero13 time: 2017-4-21 13:43:51

[email protected] replied at 2017-4-21 12:30
R2 Kisuke is about as fast as Shinso. Maybe if you stack your Shinso with t11 maxed hogu and lv 11- ...

I already have and use Shunsui, for his ex-skill and for his speed mod. I'd hope for even more supporter speed with shunsui's AND shinso's speed mod combined. (urahara/shinso NEEDS to be my fastest partner)

Which red supporters are you referring to? Cuz I'm VIP0, so tavern supporters are the only red supporters I can get (and no shini agent for me too, ofc).
I'm already using some tier 11 and 12 hogus, but only ~half maxed out cuz that's as much as I can do.
Also I'm already stacking my highest speed stones (lv 10-12) on Kisuke.
With no VIP or shini agent, I'd have to get shinso via coupons with comrade contracts (I'm used to hording coupons, all my tier 11 and 12 hogu and their upgrades are from visored's max reward, ofc).
Or ubp, if he shows up (I happen to have the neccessary vit right now, tho I'd prefer to get sth I could not get in any other way)

The only thing I'm not stacking into Kisuke for speed are ex-frags. I stopped at ex-lvl 10 for him, but I'm saving frags right now anyway. Should I get shinso, I'd give some more ex-frags to him (ex-lvl 30 is usually my base target).

So, with that additional info, any changes in your thoughts and advices?

author: X-Zero13 time: 2017-4-21 15:03:50

jimmycricketwin5298 replied at 2017-4-20 18:08
I really want Shinso, but the no fury upon death thing is puttin me off...Can you remod to get that ...

The death mod is useless as soon as an enemy yama is in play (or other partner with fury restriction debuff)...
My yama usually kills off my opponent's kisuke, then Yama's fury restriction rends Kisuke's death mod useless.

Just saying.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-4-21 23:28:52

X-Zero13 replied at 2017-4-21 15:03
The death mod is useless as soon as an enemy yama is in play (or other partner with fury restricti ...

Two similar auras do not stack. In any case - do as you wish, i'm not planing to convince anyone.

author: GamingUnleashed time: 2018-10-27 21:45:05

any purple partner with high frag count ? as you can now upgrade them to gold or is harribel still #1 to farm ?

author: jimmycricketwin5298 time: 2018-10-29 19:06:08

GamingUnleashed replied at 2018-10-27 20:45
any purple partner with high frag count ? as you can now upgrade them to gold or is harribel still # ...

Just Kisuke, Harribel, and Kirinji.

Welcome to Bleach Online Forum (http://forums.gogames.me/)