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author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-17 21:29:00 Title: grimjaw or zaraki

since the release of the special powers im now thinking of either getting zaraki (at lv 90) or grimjaw mainly for events as my 3rd assult ( 1st is main 2nd is ikkaku)
due note in a low vip player and not planing to go any higher so i dont have uber stones
my current line up for events are main ikaku renji rukia urahara(soon to be) so implaning to replace renji
zaraki has 300% growth and 10% block
grimjaw ( non upgraded) 170% growth 100fury regen
from the looks of things zaraki can use skill every other turn while gimjaw can use it every turn pass turn1.. (that might change after i get urahara to max mod)
any advice?

author: YagamiLi time: 2014-12-17 23:01:11

I am going for panterra myself

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-12-18 02:30:00

YagamiLi replied at 2014-12-17 22:01
I am going for panterra myself

yo yagami...

ermmmm anyone in Special Power partners is good to replace my support for ES n ryoka ?

i think maybe replacin it out wit Rukia...

since theres not much to replace for my ikka n ishida...

author: YagamiLi time: 2014-12-18 02:42:04

Edited by YagamiLi at 2014-12-18 01:44

PAOFUI replied at 2014-12-18 01:30
yo yagami...

ermmmm anyone in Special Power partners is good to replace my support for ES n ryo ...

Only options you have special power wise in terms of support

Toshiro/Shin Nel/Aizen

depends what you want

But If you do make alot of coupons you could tryout jushiro + panterra

both don't require fury regen and the panterra could replace the ikkaku, so I dunno.

if u want a rukia type best option would be D rukia or obedient orihime

the supports in special power have low growth rates and can't really regen their skills

aizens debuff wouldn't work on the ryoka/spirit soul
and if u used 8th skill with ur panterra in top lane he could attack 2x with 200% growth rate in 1 round

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-12-18 02:42:11

YagamiLi replied at 2014-12-18 01:42
Only options you have special power wise in terms of support

Toshiro/Shin Nel/Aizen

sigh... maybe i ll just stack my tokens first... n xchange it later...
the tokens wont get reset rite...

oh n i saw... u need coupons n also gold reishi to recruit those SWP partners ?

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-18 02:44:52

i personally think these SWP are good waste of time

with expire

author: YagamiLi time: 2014-12-18 02:47:38

PAOFUI replied at 2014-12-18 01:42
sigh... maybe i ll just stack my tokens first... n xchange it later...
the tokens wont get rese ...

no the tokens would stay just like the shinigami tokens

yeah the reishi is pretty cheap, just takes days for the coupons.. cuz all browser based games make u wait for reset

not like mmorpgs where u can just farm 24/7 and get ur shiz

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-12-18 02:50:49

YagamiLi replied at 2014-12-18 01:47
no the tokens would stay just like the shinigami tokens

yeah the reishi is pretty cheap, just ta ...

omfg... so u need coupons n reishi too...

not thts a pain... coz i am startin to use my reishi for xp books... xixixixi...

anyway will keep my tokens first... dun even know who to get...

n my mega ken is comin soon... n i bet he is in lvl 1 form... n i got to beef him up to use
at least to lvl 100...

all dang partners nowadays dun come wit lvls...

author: YagamiLi time: 2014-12-18 02:54:33

PAOFUI replied at 2014-12-18 01:50
omfg... so u need coupons n reishi too...

not thts a pain... coz i am startin to use my reishi ...

not coupons coupons, the character coupons u get from the tokens o.o

gm is going for kenpachi, he just wants and entire team of kenpachis, then aizen afterwards

"nothing else is worth my time"

gratz on that ken tho

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-12-18 03:01:34

YagamiLi replied at 2014-12-18 01:54
not coupons coupons, the character coupons u get from the tokens o.o

gm is going for kenpachi, h ...

yeah i know... char coupons ... n golden reishi too ?

i dun need to guess i alrd know he wans a full team of ken chan... xixixi...

maybe i ll go directly for aizen... not sure tho...

he catches up fast in CSB... now alrd rank 11 or 10th... phew....

first row for all of u all... n me too... wakakakakakakkaa... hics...

lets do a nekkid party

author: UnKnOwNHoLlOw time: 2014-12-18 03:35:02

Edited by UnKnOwNHoLlOw at 2014-12-18 02:38

How can i recruit grimmjow? when i go to the honor shop and click on partners it only shows ikkaku and but it doesn't show me ulquiorra or grimmjow it only says mysterious partners any help??

author: lordsafak time: 2014-12-18 05:55:38

and what effect of disarm? enemys can't attack like stunned ?

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-18 05:58:49

YagamiLi replied at 2014-12-18 01:54
not coupons coupons, the character coupons u get from the tokens o.o

gm is going for kenpachi, h ...

Your infamous "gm" lol...who I'm starting to think doesn't exist. Haven't seen to many "secret" power houses anywhere.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-18 05:59:46

UnKnOwNHoLlOw replied at 2014-12-18 02:35
How can i recruit grimmjow? when i go to the honor shop and click on partners it only shows ikkaku a ...

Those 2 versions are not available, and probably never will be. They suck anyhow. Both are purple partners I believe.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-18 06:00:38

Think you are getting the Kenpachi's mixed up.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-18 23:54:14

btw hecto mondo doesnt reset at reset time? have to manualy reset it? hir i thought i could run it 2x a day ...

author: DeEmEn time: 2014-12-19 00:38:53

I believe it's a manually reset... since the clock doesnt tick... itself...

author: ajoalex time: 2014-12-19 00:44:39

DeEmEn replied at 2014-12-19 09:38
I believe it's a manually reset... since the clock doesnt tick... itself...

manual reset , then it costs 10,30,50 hueco coupons

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-19 01:39:07

o enchange reward.
ment the whole run where u can start over again...

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-20 09:36:51

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-19 06:44
manual reset , then it costs 10,30,50 hueco coupons

At lvl100 gonna proba click on this thing to make the zarak appear i guess; gonna cost 10cois not the end of the world, tell me if you'll see the zarak auto when reach lvl100 plz, or need to do it manual

author: LadyKyojin time: 2014-12-20 09:43:44

i be getting shin shura kenpachi that if his tokes ever show up other then that i wait

author: ajoalex time: 2014-12-20 10:37:02

[email protected] replied at 2014-12-20 18:36
At lvl100 gonna proba click on this thing to make the zarak appear i guess; gonna cost 10cois not ...

zaraki needs 900, if you are vip7+ you get 20 tokens per day, then it will take you 45 days to get zaraki in hand.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-20 10:39:34

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-20 16:37
zaraki needs 900, if you are vip7+ you get 20 tokens per day, then it will take you 45 days to get ...

yeah i put that into consideration, knowing also the fact that koma can keep up till lvl110 it's not a big deal to be patient and go for zarak insted of recruitin stark lvling it, with a healer for my team i'd need an asaulter stuner ie gin and a new vanguard ie zaraki, o recuit him you'll need around 33k coins so yeah basically some month and a half

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-12-20 11:31:53

[email protected] replied at 2014-12-18 04:58
Your infamous "gm" lol...who I'm starting to think doesn't exist. Haven't seen to many "secret" po ...

lol... his infamous "gm" is a nice guy... yagami is a big fan of his... no doubt... xixixixi...

spoke to him b4... nice opponent indeed... gav me the most fun in CSB...

a lil hint if u ever see him wanna defeat him... make sure u hav speed more than 165k

author: STORY55 time: 2014-12-23 18:15:17

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-20 09:37
zaraki needs 900, if you are vip7+ you get 20 tokens per day, then it will take you 45 days to get ...

cool i'm VIP 7 soo i will get it in 40 day :p

author: SACk25 time: 2014-12-23 19:11:42

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-20 09:37
zaraki needs 900, if you are vip7+ you get 20 tokens per day, then it will take you 45 days to get ...

Actually, you are wrong.

For a lvl 6 Vip with get 280 coins per day (as me), it will take:

Requierement tokens for ken: 900 tokens.
Cost of 5 tokens: 180 coins
Dialy rewards per day: 280 coins.

So:

900 tokens / 5 tokens per purchase = 180 purchases. It also means the days to get him without reset exchange rewards.

180 purchases x 180 coins per purchases = 32,400 Coins needed.

So 280 dialy rewards per 2 days = 560 coins

(180 x 3 purchases) + 20 coins for resets = 560 coins

So 15 tokes per 2 days.

Now 900 tokens requirement / 15 tokens per 2 days = 60 * 2 = 120 days for vip 6 or low.

If you are vip +7 it will take 60 days.

It is not good for me, even if I really want Ken-chan.

Good lucks guys.

author: ajoalex time: 2014-12-23 22:13:32

SACk25 replied at 2014-12-24 04:11
Actually, you are wrong.

For a lvl 6 Vip with get 280 coins per day (as me), it will take:

for vip 6 and below

first day you get two chances, so if won all fights then you get 800 coins. INT(800/180)=4, hence 4x5=20 partner coupons , this is with the remaining (800- 180x4)=80tokens. can use 10,10,10 from that to get the reset, you still will have some 30-40 odd tokens left ( i am not considering this case, i am looking into the max time needed, if you save them and use only as per reset , you will have more tokens in hand but time needed will increase too as you have to redeem each day )

so first day vip 6 and below person gets 20, vip and above gets 30

second day onwards, vip6 n below will get 400 tokens only, with that he can redeem it two times a day for free reset and he will get 5x2=10 partner coupons with (400 - 180x2 =40 tokens still in hand)
if vip 7 and above he will get 800 tokens and with that he can redeem 4 times a day and he will get 5x4=20 partner coupons , he will have to spend two reset costing him 10 tokens and the other two he can use the free reset, so he will have say (800 - 180x4 -20 = 60 tokens in hand)

so vip 6 and below will get 10 coupons and vip 7+ will get 20 coupons per day from second day onwards.

so zaraki needs 900 partner coupons hence
vip 6 and below will require 1+ (900-20)/10=1+88=89days
vip 7+ will require 1+ (900-30)/20=1+44=45days

now this is the max time needed, within this time
a vip 6 and below could save 40x88=3520 tokens by the end of 89days and
a vip 7 could say 60x44=2640 tokens by the end of 45days.

So they can use them for the next partner or redeem them making the number of days to get their partner to reduce by the above said number.

hence what i said is right i believe. i was talking abt a generic case where you win all the fights. if you can't the days required will increase accordingly

author: Leitzur time: 2014-12-23 22:36:10

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-18 23:44
manual reset , then it costs 10,30,50 hueco coupons

that cost is for map reset or token reset ?

are all hueco mundo partners cost the same (180 token per 5 coupons)?

author: SACk25 time: 2014-12-23 22:39:26

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-23 21:13
for vip 6 and below

first day you get two chances, so if won all fights then you get 800 coins. IN ...

You meant, the minimal time needed, despite the fact that you should do 2 perfect fights per days, kinda hard to do and technically impossible.

Anyhow, I think I won't go for him, He is awesome but it will take long time to get him.

Now I am thinking which one should I get.

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-12-23 22:39:58

yeah... but i still say... either zaraki or aizen...

n its worth it to wait it out... n slowly collect them... n its FREE...

author: SACk25 time: 2014-12-23 22:48:21

Leitzur replied at 2014-12-23 21:36
that cost is for map reset or token reset ?

are all hueco mundo partners cost the same (180 token ...

The cost for reset Exchange Reward is 10 coins. I did twice, same price.

Seems that all partners tokens cost the same, for the mean time I am able to see Ulquiorra and all of them have the same price 5 tokens = 180 coins.

author: selene0818 time: 2014-12-23 22:49:45

How is it so hard to do two full rounds? I've done it every day since it started....

author: SACk25 time: 2014-12-23 22:50:29

PAOFUI replied at 2014-12-23 21:39
yeah... but i still say... either zaraki or aizen...

n its worth it to wait it out... n slowly co ...

Well that's a good point, but 4 months, come on.

I think Neliel would be a good option to replace Ukitake for PvP.

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-12-23 22:59:38

SACk25 replied at 2014-12-23 21:50
Well that's a good point, but 4 months, come on.

I think Neliel would be a good option to replace ...

well... its literally FREE partners which is good...

4 months or 12 months... is better than not havin them...

at least this is wat goin to keep the game alive for the f2p...

author: ajoalex time: 2014-12-23 23:01:23

Leitzur replied at 2014-12-24 07:36
that cost is for map reset or token reset ?

are all hueco mundo partners cost the same (180 token ...

map reset doesn't cost anything. if you are vip 6 and below, you get one free map reset. if you are vip 7+ you get two map reset free.

token reset costs 10,10,10,30,50 if you decide to do it at one go without waiting for the next free reset

author: Leitzur time: 2014-12-24 00:56:28

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-23 22:01
map reset doesn't cost anything. if you are vip 6 and below, you get one free map reset. if you ar ...

Ok so it is better to exchange token daily, isn't it?

author: ajoalex time: 2014-12-24 00:58:48

Leitzur replied at 2014-12-24 09:56
Ok so it is better to exchange token daily, isn't it?

yes you can do it two times for free in a day ie every 12:00 it resets.
the next reset after free would cost you 10 tokens for two turns.

how many tokens do you get per day?

author: Leitzur time: 2014-12-24 01:13:31

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-23 23:58
yes you can do it two times for free in a day ie every 12:00 it resets.
the next reset after free ...

Only 180... still noob..

i always stuck at the 4th token battle because i still don't have unohana

or maybe i should place orihime instead for now? Because my team is full assault.

So you say better to reset for free at let's say 8am (before 12 noon server time) and maybe 4pm (between 12 noon and 12 midnight? Sorry if i'm misunderstanding something..

author: ajoalex time: 2014-12-24 01:25:53

Leitzur replied at 2014-12-24 10:13
Only 180... still noob..
i always stuck at the 4th token battle because i still don't have un ...

since you are getting 180, you dont have to worry about reset. cos everyday you can exchange that 180 tokens for 5 partner coupons , as the first reset every day is free in exchange shop.

you just need to exchange once as you get 180 tokens, so say anytime of the day you check if the reset is free, if yes then exchange. if reset is not free wait for the next 12:00 to happen and reset for free, and then exchange for 5 partner coupons.

so basically you wouldn't need to spend tokens on reset in exchange shop

author: essamelshamy time: 2014-12-24 04:05:57

grimmjow is good but not better than kenpachi simple calculate it.
at ryoka u have 6 rounds so if you are using rukia + 8th skill then your top line assaulter will have 8 rounds :
grimmjow attack power is 100+ 7 x 170 = 1290.
kenpachi will have 3 fury skills and 5 normal hits so it's 900 + 500 = 1400.
however if you got pantera this will change to 100+7 x 200 = 1500.
for my self i will get grimmjow because after upgrading him he will get 5% combo and 2nd mod 30 fury.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-12-24 04:46:31

also about grinjaws talent its 15% dmg.. so does that mean 15% of his over all dmg is increase? so his skill would be like 170+15%?
yah also did the calcs.. grimjaw gets better when his upgraded... also getting him for the long run and his also cheaper 300 gs i think

author: metalsimya time: 2014-12-24 14:13:02

grimjow or renji ?

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-12-24 14:43:17

metalsimya replied at 2014-12-24 13:13
grimjow or renji ?

non of the above... but if u realli wanna choose... then it depends on wat u wan...

grim looks decent enuf..

author: metalsimya time: 2014-12-25 12:14:56

Thanks , Grimjow is my favorite too..)

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