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author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 05:24:18 Title: Strategy Discusion

Formation:Noza/MC-B.Renji/Ultima-KisukeOther "decent" parteners avaible: Cute,Shura Ken,Demon Ichi,any other tavern partener or HMA.

Zanpakuto:senbon/muramasa
Most stacked is Ultima with unlocked exclusive skill,152% br.def(can go up to ~170%),and working now on Noza.
Condition: F2P

Enemy formation:Noza/MC-Tavern Byakuya/Senjumaru-Cute

Zanpakuto:senbon/hyorin
Most stacked is obviously Noza,followed by Senju(isnt a threat),Cute(last modify is annoying),and Tavern Bya(death skill is annoying)
Condition: P2W

Br: 1) http://mybankai.game.ggcorp.me/f ... ;t=1&lang=en_US
2) http://mybankai.game.ggcorp.me/f ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

Personal Ideas:
1)working on replacing Kisuke with Cute,time needed ~1 month
2)Stacking Noza more
3)Stacking Ultima's br.def
4)Hakuteiken?
5)White Ichi?
6)Muken?

Any ideas?

author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 09:26:47

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author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-4-30 09:42:59

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author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-4-30 09:46:33

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author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 09:50:57

jackthehorn replied at 2017-4-30 09:39
F2P cant get Noza and Ultima aizen so forget that if condition is f2p.

Dont bother to answer,
i didnt make this thread for questioning why i dont sell my home/parents/childs and whatever else to gogames.

author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 09:58:12

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-4-30 09:42
dont stack ultima with break def that isnt going to help vs nozas

actually chaos comes pretty handy vs any stacked vg,disabling + damaging them and considering that he's only 25% higher on block i have 75% not to get blocked which is quite high.
1.true that heal is quite op,still i won him even with hyorin,it's about luck.
2.i dont care whether he blocks any1 else other than ultima,i need main to land his debuff 1st round and brenji to clear his back-line,after this they are useles anyway vs noza.
3.damage also isnt a issue,i can tank all of it with my noza.
4.then what works vs "good" nozas?mutilate is out of question unless it's from ubp.

author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 10:02:11

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-4-30 09:46
i think he means now the guy is f2p

so no more top-ups?

exactly.
i used to trash this guy day'n'night b4 he started to copy my formation and top up brainlessly.
i made this thread so that i could perhaps find a loop-hole that i missed somewhere, if not then nvm it's a game lol,i can still play it even if a sh1thead decided to take "revenge".

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-4-30 10:04:41

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author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-4-30 10:11:12

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author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 10:25:27

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-4-30 10:04
noza is just too freaking good defensively how often do you beat him when he runs hyronimaru?
als ...

heh,actually it's 1 hit k.o. from noza.if u watched the br's that i posted above,u'd see that my ultima barely survives from tavern bya+cute ori combo,and 1 block that i get=game over.
his block is 177% atm,i know he can push it to 206%(i think),and my br.def is 152%.
i can take 5th skill and deny his regen for 4 rounds,or i can take 2nd skill and reduce his def by 30% for 3 rounds,he has about 400k phy def and ~300k kido def.
cant show u his noza he's in pve form atm
but here's my ultima if u want to take a peek,also do mind sharing u'rs

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author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 10:26:21

Edited by Loupik at 2017-4-30 10:30

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-4-30 10:11
well retsu and ultima have a great lvl 100 exclusive

ultima can cc for 2 turns on guard 3 on res ...

u mean bankai unohana?or tavern unohana?edit:it's bankai just checked,sadly i missed when she was in ubp

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-4-30 11:02:49

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author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 11:09:46

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-4-30 11:02
that thing would eat mines alive

no contest how is he soo strong

5th skill works against any healing effects
i just got lvl 70 excl,for the skill,but i;m with tier 12 wis hogu +2
that's why my dmg is kinda low.
if the time comes when retsu is in ubp again i wont miss her for sure
she's awesome in pve,and pvp wise too.
anyway will update this thread if i find any f2p solutions vs that noza,
most likely it will come down to whose noza will skill 1st and manage to stay above other's hp %

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-4-30 11:20:22

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author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 11:40:25

Edited by Loupik at 2017-4-30 11:42

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-4-30 11:20
my exclusive game is crap

spread out over 3 partners mainly demon and ultima

yep,traded all mods except the speed one for br.def%,and will trade the 7th mod for br.def too when i unlock it.
since his noza blocks for 1m dmg w.o buff,and ~4m with...there's no point in extra def xD
better avoid blocks than taking them head-on
spent ~5k cpns on these mods lol,all 5 are 11%,never met 12% it's damn rare; _____________________________________________________________________________________

author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 11:50:15

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-4-30 11:05
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... d=54&t=1&lang=en_US

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... d=54& ...

damn,i regret so much that i missed unohana ubp,that invulnerability is seriously op
and it's also perma if she's the only survivor.
btw,i highly recomend that u use 2nd skill most of the times,
since u also have ultima's exclusive enemy's assaulters and supports are out,
and the only threat is the vanguard,so lowering his def would help alot if he happens to be stacked

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-4-30 13:01:50

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author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 13:35:54

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-4-30 13:01
ohh but i dont have the exclusive yet only lvl 48 maybe by next year i plan to use my exclusives ...

Yep,i also think it's better to go for other's parteners exclusives,someone like muken is obvious,and if ubp will bring to the table some 0division parteners.
i'm already using b.renji's str stones when fighting him,and i sadly dont have any spare sockets for more stamina stones,but even so i dont think i'll survive more than 2 blocks,i need at least 5 rounds to finish off his noza(6.8m hp atm).

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-4-30 13:42:15

Loupik replied at 2017-4-30 09:50
Dont bother to answer,
i didnt make this thread for questioning why i dont sell my home/parents/ch ...

first thing...  you are at least VIP6 if you have Ultima, thus you are not F2P  that is what he was talking about...

second I'm a hard stacking Hyorin having, Noza user so i can give you some advice, do not use Noza with Ultima to beat a Noza...  you will make him impossible to be hit by skills, with 150% boost in attack power... bad move

you will want to stop healing on him and stack your break defense as well...  other than that, you will want serious raw damage

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-4-30 13:49:08

Loupik replied at 2017-4-30 09:58
actually chaos comes pretty handy vs any stacked vg,disabling + damaging them and considering that ...

and the chaos is nice, but Ultima also boosts attack power... just to throw out what I'm thinking when I think of a stacked Noza (and BTW I'm in the middle of equipment upgrades so my stats are down a little...

once I upgrade his two dark pieces to blaze his BP should come up to about 1.44M I'm guessing

VS something like this, raising that power from an Ultima, after making him only able to block and not take any skill damage from your Noza is a bad move for any team...

Zabi Renji can lower defense, Pan Grim can lacerate... there are a few answers for a well built Noza, but none of the good ones will come cheap without UBP in your corner

author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 14:05:32

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-4-30 13:42
first thing... you are at least VIP6 if you have Ultima, thus you are not F2P that is what he wa ...

f2p,means free to play,that's what i've been doing since more than 2 years,i've topped up at the start of the game to show some kind of support toward this game and to get some goodies.Never a penny since then.
2nd i do know that ultima+noza vs noza is bad,but bad for one and good enough for the other,since it comes to whose noza skills first and applies the fosilize,his noza is under chaos from ultima and misses 1 turn,but so does my noza because i dont have t1 on him,2nd round his noza skills first because his is much faster,even than my assaulter lane lol(he clearly doesnt understand how noza works),and my noza is invunerable to all skills which is a big bonus just what i've told u.
on 3rd round his team is pretty much dead,except noza(arround 50-70%hp),this is where the massacre starts blocking all my team to death and playing russian roulete with my ultima(25% to be blocked),if ultima gets blocked he can perma skill on my noza and heal himself,that's how the battle ends with both noza's alive and the deciding factor is hyorin's heal on his side,and on mine the 75% to avoid block

author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 14:09:00

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-4-30 13:49
and the chaos is nice, but Ultima also boosts attack power... just to throw out what I'm thinking ...

neighter of them would help more than ultima does right now,unles they have extra br.def from bonds/talent w.e else.
they will simply get blocked to death before i can burst his noza down.
he's still in pve form,but i'll show u a pic of his noza if u want to see it

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-4-30 14:29:25

Loupik replied at 2017-4-30 14:05
f2p,means free to play,that's what i've been doing since more than 2 years,i've topped up at the s ...

right, but a true F2P doesn't have a lot of the bonuses you have...  thus you are not F2P...  however I get what you meant and don't take offense to that first statement, was just a statement...

the question is this...  can your Ultima kill his noza?  and the answer is obviously not, even with 20 rounds of hits without being block killed...
as for a fast Noza, anyone that makes their Noza T1 obviously has no idea how to work him...  also, when his hyorin goes, his Noza gets an 18% speed bonus, mine I showed here has nothing for speed on him other than a leftover speed treasure, and being he runs what seems like a vang heavy team with a Hyorin, the rest of his team being shit sounds reasonable (I know mine really is in comparison)

I would like to see both his noza and your ultima (as he sounds like your biggest weapon ATM) if you would so i can get a decent idea of what you can do against him...  honestly as a Noza user, i've looked at his weaknesses quite a bit, and I don't see anyone from tavern, HMA, or CSB being on that list of problems...  hit his block rate and defense if you want to kill him as a well stacked noza is a tough nut to crack without mutulate or hella burn

author: GiroDenis time: 2017-4-30 14:39:17

F2P is VIP0, nothing else to say. Even if you didn't top up for the past 2 years, you still paid for early game bonuses, giving you the edge that got u where you are right now. You wouldnt have Noza and Ultima either. Where would you be without that? That's what it is to be a F2P.

author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 14:44:58

GiroDenis replied at 2017-4-30 14:39
F2P is VIP0, nothing else to say. Even if you didn't top up for the past 2 years, you still paid for ...

m8 do i need to show u the door??!?
i wrote clearly b4 I DIDNT MAKE THIS THREAD AS TO WHY I DONT SELL MY HOME/PARENTS/CHILDS TO GOGAMES,I MADE IT TO FIND A FKING LOOP-HOLE THAT I MIGHT'VE MISSED.
So unless u have something on the topic to say i suggest u keep u'r useles coments to yourself.

author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 14:50:45

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-4-30 14:29
right, but a true F2P doesn't have a lot of the bonuses you have... thus you are not F2P... howe ...

did u even watch any of the br's i posted? wtf are u writing bs? is 1m dmg low to u?
watch the 1st post,and on the 2nd page u'll find my ultima that "sounds like my biggest weapon atm".
if he wouldnt block my ultima i'd kill him easy.+i've found some of noza's weaknesses but it's still not enough,that's why i made this thread in the first place.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-4-30 17:07:09

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2017-4-30 17:10

Loupik replied at 2017-4-30 14:50
did u even watch any of the br's i posted? wtf are u writing bs? is 1m dmg low to u?
watch the 1st ...

forgot to mention, My comp doesn't like to watch BRs, not sure why ATM... and as for noza blocking, that is what he does... if he didn't block, he would be a crappy vang... so if you can't get past his block, you can't beat him... stack on some break defense and you should be golden... that's an EASY problem to fix bro... next time come with a tough question before you wanna get all rude about it or else I'm gonna smash your post bro
also, you are a misinformed dick. F2P means VIP0 quit bitching at people because you don't understand that simplness bro

author: Loupik time: 2017-4-30 17:25:16

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-4-30 17:07
forgot to mention, My comp doesn't like to watch BRs, not sure why ATM... and as for noza blockin ...

m8,i'm not bitching at all.i couldnt give more of a sh1t about this game and about this forum tbh.
how blind has someone to be,if i there's been already an answer to a question,is there really the need to go all over it again?
i have my own view on what f2p means,and now u'r trying to implement me u'r point of view totaly neglecting mine?this is why i couldnt give more of a sh1t to forums and about your pointles post.
i'm already at 152% br.def and u tell me to stack "some" break defense?
i hate people like you who jump to last page of the thread and start sh1tting all over the place about how easy this game is,or what does some term mean that doesnt have anything to do with the thread at all.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-4-30 19:44:24

Loupik replied at 2017-4-30 17:25
m8,i'm not bitching at all.i couldnt give more of a sh1t about this game and about this forum tbh. ...

i read your first post, the best answer is to raise your break defense, Retsu Kenpachi has a break defense halo and such... it's easy to raise your break defense, if you can't, you won't win... so go be salty and fuck off and lose in peace... later chump

author: GiroDenis time: 2017-4-30 19:56:34

Daaaaaamn, that's salt right there. I dont wanna help a salty bitch, cya.

author: Loupik time: 2017-5-1 02:38:04

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-4-30 19:44
i read your first post, the best answer is to raise your break defense, Retsu Kenpachi has a break ...

you have to learn to tolerate,w/e i'm tired of this bs
yaeh,Devvoke answered with the same idea,and this is probably what i'll stick to
though there are other ways to avoid that i also plan to test,if it'll work i'll update the thread.
and what's about salt,that's just how i deal with people who come here like "umm-popcorn"
with 0 help to the thread,only looking for what grammar issue i have,and further more dont even know the situation but start trash-talking everywhere.

author: Loupik time: 2017-5-1 02:40:57

GiroDenis replied at 2017-4-30 19:56
Daaaaaamn, that's salt right there. I dont wanna help a salty bitch, cya.

lets be honest,u dont have what it takes to be able to give a proper anwser about my question.
i totaly can see this,so i dont mind -1. cY@

author: SanekN time: 2017-5-1 03:39:07

Try to remove stones for accuracy from urahara and rendji, it would be interesting to see how the fight goes.

author: Loupik time: 2017-5-1 04:10:37

SanekN replied at 2017-5-1 03:39
Try to remove stones for accuracy from urahara and rendji, it would be interesting to see how the fi ...

it's a good idea,but his noza(and most) dont run dodge at all
if u dodge you cant block,thus missing the whole point of having noza.
besides,kisuke and brenji both do their work as intended,kisuke's death mod lets my ultima skill two rounds in a row,putting enemy noza in chaos for 2 rounds,
while brenji takes care of the mid-backrow.

author: GiroDenis time: 2017-5-1 11:57:03

Loupik replied at 2017-5-1 02:40
lets be honest,u dont have what it takes to be able to give a proper anwser about my question.
i t ...

Let's be honest, the solution to your problem is so simple, but you've been such a dickhead that I'll just let you seek it in vain. Good luck with ur shit Noza btw.

author: Loupik time: 2017-5-1 12:24:10

GiroDenis replied at 2017-5-1 11:57
Let's be honest, the solution to your problem is so simple, but you've been such a dickhead that I ...

not mine m8,i can handle my noza just fine.
i needed help vs enemy's noza.
i think you should check a doctor every now and then,or at least talk to someone
at the end of the day it's 21st century,i'm sure there's cure for your mental disorder.
peace

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