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author: YagamiLi    time: 2014-12-23 21:28:45     Title: Ryoka Attack

When are the devs going to fix this crap event?

Atleast 10 people on my server can 1shot, many waves are easy to miss, you are screwed if you lag even slightly.
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-12-23 22:15:21

can you one shot ? if so till which wave?
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-12-23 22:38:09


lol... yeah i am alwiz screwed altho i am the highest dmg dealer in the server...

my lag kills me... n i alwiz hav to depend on after wave 50 to catch back up to the top spot...

they should consider increasin the ryoka to 15... they hav 7 ryokas now per waves if is not mistaken...
author: YagamiLi    time: 2014-12-23 22:39:12

PAOFUI replied at 2014-12-23 21:38
lol... yeah i am alwiz screwed altho i am the highest dmg dealer in the server...

my lag kills me. ...

It's only 5, and it's sad.

8 per wave would be reasonable.

Or atleast adjust the hp according to the servers average lv and age.



author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-12-23 22:41:35

Edited by PAOFUI at 2014-12-23 21:45
YagamiLi replied at 2014-12-23 21:39
It's only 5, and it's sad.

8 per wave would be reasonable.


hmmmm onli 5 ?

but normally i see 7 names on the score list...

or did they not get to kill the ryoka ? but their dmg all kinda similar...

i might b blur... will check again the next day...



ah yeah can 1 shot till wave 55 ... but now i drop back to wave 53 bcoz i change a lil in formation...

i put my vg in to lvl up since startin of waves... bcoz each hit gives me 100k+ xp ...

good way to lvl up partners too
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-12-23 22:44:03

PAOFUI replied at 2014-12-24 07:38
lol... yeah i am alwiz screwed altho i am the highest dmg dealer in the server...

my lag kills me. ...

i dt think one can complain here.

there is Evil Spirit event if you want to do damage 100%.

ryoka event itself is an event for the high damage snipers, nothing one can do about it. you either play it or dont. if you play you get the exp/sil for attacking.

asking gogames to fix ryoka is like talking to the wall asking about a salary hike
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-12-23 22:44:24

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-23 21:44
i dt think one can complain here.

there is Evil Spirit event if you want to do damage 100%.


well yeah... but we all can try n hope for the better tht they ll fix it...

its not tht hard to do... i belif its all in the button of the dev...

n yeah ES is a pain for me... i got to drag myself up 230am plus to do it...

n back to sleep after i am done wit BB at times...

coz i am silver broke n need to get silvers...
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-12-23 23:00:05

PAOFUI replied at 2014-12-24 07:44
well yeah... but we all can try n hope for the better tht they ll fix it...

its not tht hard to ...

i dt think they will implement anything new, so if someone fixes in CN, they will be happily ready to copy paste that here . so lets hope its fixed in CN.

btw, was the extra 100% hp buff added in the CN version first?
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-12-23 23:18:09

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-23 22:00
i dt think they will implement anything new, so if someone fixes in CN, they will be happily ready ...


well quite true... if they r bein lazy... they would hav let CN do the werk... n they copy n paste it here...

but i am not sure... if CN does hav tht HP buff in Arena... first b4 our server does
author: BurakCinar    time: 2014-12-23 23:25:03

well guys, you gotta remember this game havent been up for very long, theres always room for improvements no matter what, I think their biggest
Challenge right now is to prevent all bugs from happening. and i'm positive they are working hard to fix it
some people are just very impatient and want everything on their list instantly while there are millions of other suggestions being sent =P
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-12-23 23:25:34

BurakCinar replied at 2014-12-24 08:25
well guys, you gotta remember this game havent been up for very long, theres always room for improve ...

wats with the EU servers issue thingy? i read posts everyday that something or the other is wrong there.
author: BurakCinar    time: 2014-12-23 23:29:26

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-23 22:25
wats with the EU servers issue thingy? i read posts everyday that something or the other is wrong  ...

ya lmao thats a mystery... but still, that doesnt mean they are not trying to solve the problems even though i think they need a better coder <.<
author: DeEmEn    time: 2014-12-23 23:36:37

BurakCinar replied at 2014-12-23 22:25
well guys, you gotta remember this game havent been up for very long, theres always room for improve ...

this man has wisdom.
author: BurakCinar    time: 2014-12-23 23:48:27

YagamiLi replied at 2014-12-23 22:47
nope just ignorance

only people with experience should speak on the topic

i get to wave 30 with no problems/rank 1, fairly experienced at the game.
author: YagamiLi    time: 2014-12-23 23:49:54

BurakCinar replied at 2014-12-23 22:48
i get to wave 30 with no problems

wave 30?

What a big boy

try 51 with 9 other players to rival and see how the shit flys

server merge was the worst possible thing to happen, and there is no compensation in regards to events.

there only solution is to release new servers with NEWER SPAWNS that have minimal to no participants in events
author: nieverland    time: 2014-12-23 23:49:59

sadly we need CN dvlp team to fix Ryoka because gogames cant fix this even when isnt really hard to fix, double hp for ryokas since the begining can help, i also had problems since the last week due to loading issues im not the only one with this problem in my serv but cant blame gogames to that, can be my internet speed, ping, browser, some lag, etc.
author: BurakCinar    time: 2014-12-23 23:51:29

YagamiLi replied at 2014-12-23 22:49
wave 30?

What a big boy

if you suck at sniping dont blame me lmao, you're the one acting ignorant. let me guess. your suggestions didn't come through? LOL
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-12-23 23:52:39

YagamiLi replied at 2014-12-24 08:49
wave 30?

What a big boy

if there are 9 rivals, 7 will take out the 7 ryokas in the current wave, and when they do, they will be on CD for atleast 10 seconds, and within 5 seconds the next wave will arrive, and the next 7 who ever is available can attack them.

trust me, there is no point discussing about how to fix ryoka, you are just wasting time.  you either play the game or don't, one should never waste time complaining (gogames is deaf).  lets discuss about much better things like partners, stats, etc
author: BurakCinar    time: 2014-12-23 23:57:05

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-23 22:52
if there are 9 rivals, 7 will take out the 7 ryokas in the current wave, and when they do, they wi ...

what frustrates me is; he can ONE SHOT till wave 51 and struggles and then comes here and acting all boss and stuff.

i understand getting bullied at school is bad, but taking out his anger on others is sad
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-12-24 00:08:25

nieverland replied at 2014-12-24 08:49
sadly we need CN dvlp team to fix Ryoka because gogames cant fix this even when isnt really hard to  ...

i faced loading issues when i cleared cache, reloading the cache for each menu takes a horrible long time, very bad optimization technique used, but once loaded then it should be fine. it took me minutes to load each menu options.
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-12-24 00:12:54

BurakCinar replied at 2014-12-24 08:57
what frustrates me is; he can ONE SHOT till wave 51 and struggles and then comes here and acting a ...

yeah, i understood it from his post itself, he is struggling at the later stages when others aren't. his issue aint with the totality of ryoka but just his individual frustration.

and yes bullying wont solve the issue yagami, whats your problem if he does one shot till 30? he worked hard for it infact everyone be it a f2p or a vip.
author: nieverland    time: 2014-12-24 02:25:11

BurakCinar replied at 2014-12-23 22:57
what frustrates me is; he can ONE SHOT till wave 51 and struggles and then comes here and acting a ...

well that 1 shoot is actualy new since he got Isshin, so isnt like his team average dmg is great, most because combo, but well i guess you arent from an old serv thats why you can only go till wave 30 and if youre #1 at dmg that say much, i can 1 shoot till wave 50 since 2 months ago you dont need much dmg to do that after that is an diferent story 2 months and only can 1 shoot till wave 52 to tell the truth atm only are 3 guys with better dmg at Ryoka but lately been on 3rd to 5th place because waves vanish really fast, and loading is really slow so i can only get 1 kill every 2 or 3 waves, somehow 95% of the times i start at the end of the screen so i cant reach ryoka before they vanish we go till wave 52 between 12 to 16 mins so waves pass really fast
author: BurakCinar    time: 2014-12-24 02:30:01

nieverland replied at 2014-12-24 01:25
well that 1 shoot is actualy new since he got Isshin, so isnt like his team average dmg is great,  ...

doesn't change the fact that he's an asshole lol.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-12-24 03:59:19

After merge it made ryoka hhectic, at least 15 people can one shot till 20, then 10 till 40 and 5 till 55 then one hehehehehehehe, if you have a slow laptop such mine, the time you one shot and loading battle you miss 3 waves hehehehehe
author: YagamiLi    time: 2014-12-24 05:31:08

[email protected] replied at 2014-12-24 02:59
After merge it made ryoka hhectic, at least 15 people can one shot till 20, then 10 till 40 and 5 ti ...

This is someone that understands the issue and doesn't derail the thread off topic.
author: sebastiean    time: 2014-12-24 05:49:41

Man you are not only one with bad pc ,on our server at least 15 ppl can 1 shot till wave 40 or something and after wave 51 i don't even try to kill i just keep running to ryokas as soon as my revive cd is up, if i get some lucky kill till wave 60 cool if not i don't care i got some exp and silver. At work i have shit pc and when i work late i have to play ryoka on it , i miss many waves because that pc loads battle for 10 mins but i don't care , its just a game and i play it for fun.
author: Evild4nte    time: 2014-12-24 06:04:10

It would eaysly solve the problem, when this damagebuff would be removed.
author: YagamiLi    time: 2014-12-24 07:14:51

Evild4nte replied at 2014-12-24 05:04
It would eaysly solve the problem, when this damagebuff would be removed.

Just curious if the CN ryoka is the same as ours currently.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-12-24 09:18:00

YagamiLi replied at 2014-12-24 06:14
Just curious if the CN ryoka is the same as ours currently.


not sure tho... anyone from CN server can shed some light here...
author: nieverland    time: 2014-12-24 11:28:22

YagamiLi replied at 2014-12-24 06:14
Just curious if the CN ryoka is the same as ours currently.

yep some players can 1 shot all the way till  60-65 +- but that is because they dont have a lot of ppl at events, but they have 1-2 players around 2mil BP and other 3 around 1.5mill
author: nieverland    time: 2014-12-24 11:34:28

BurakCinar replied at 2014-12-24 01:30
doesn't change the fact that he's an asshole lol.

ok dunno how to answer or refuse that
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-12-24 13:32:15

nieverland replied at 2014-12-24 10:28
yep some players can 1 shot all the way till  60-65 +- but that is because they dont have a lot of ...


wow... thts a beast monster server...

wit 1 to 2 player wit 2m bp...

n 3 others of 1.5m bp... holy cow...

i onli hav 900k bp...

lucky still can 1 shot till 50s



psst Burak... who is tht asshole ? i hav 1... but mine is still virgin... xixixi
author: YagamiLi    time: 2014-12-24 18:38:53

PAOFUI replied at 2014-12-24 12:32
wow... thts a beast monster server...

wit 1 to 2 player wit 2m bp...

merry christmas paofui/nieverland
author: Shayde    time: 2014-12-25 20:47:23

Edited by Shayde at 2014-12-25 17:49

they need to put big hitters in their own room, 57 has 4 one shotters to wave 40+ then 2 after that... us smaller guys can get one if lucky in each other 5 rounds if that....total b.s
author: Shayde    time: 2014-12-25 21:29:57

and after 25 or soo, ony one shotters get kills
author: theasom3    time: 2014-12-25 22:13:23

YagamiLi replied at 2014-12-24 06:14
Just curious if the CN ryoka is the same as ours currently.

CN server merges arnt crowded like here....when CN has merge, only 2-3 players gained so only like 5-6 people on server. And for the event it self... only like 3 people do it on my server...
author: theasom3    time: 2014-12-25 22:13:43

theasom3 replied at 2014-12-25 21:13
CN server merges arnt crowded like here....when CN has merge, only 2-3 players gained so only like ...

so not really problem on CN
author: nieverland    time: 2014-12-25 22:14:37

YagamiLi replied at 2014-12-24 17:38
merry christmas paofui/nieverland

lol didnt notice about this post merry X-mas bro
author: kinghollow1    time: 2014-12-26 13:14:24

in my server we get to the 50th wave and can one shot first 10 waves
author: darklordz931    time: 2014-12-26 19:01:57

uhh i can 1 shot them when there lvl 125 but time runs out so i dont know wat wave i can potentially one shot upto. Btw wat wave is lvl 125 ryoka
author: Ragnos    time: 2014-12-28 04:06:44

I've noticed some one-shooters recently in Ryoka.
I wish they would take at least a day off from making servers to assess the Bugs and other issues with the game...and some grammar.
author: karcharinas    time: 2014-12-28 19:11:45

what should be done, is that there should be different tiers for different levels
ex: 1-29 levels get the right level ryoka to attack, while 80-10 get the super SUPER tough ones
author: bladeofcloud    time: 2014-12-28 20:13:37

ajoalex replied at 2014-12-23 23:12
yeah, i understood it from his post itself, he is struggling at the later stages when others aren' ...

well to be clear here dude, there are 5 ryoka per wave and 10 seconds inbetween waves.. this means 5 people who can one shot till 51 (myself included and yagami) can just keep killing on every wave until then. so before you go spouting your shit talk its best you understand the situation first. we complain about this event because it drives other players out for no obvious reasons to our knowledge.. i for one get over 800m damage a game and have no lag to speak of so i just keep getting stronger. i will give you that gogames is deaf and this post will not help the situation, but there is no need for you to defend that position.  he is asking why not make the event more applicable to a wider range of players so their server populous doesnt die out so quickly.. 5 per wave? please, 5 people get over 500m damage in every ryoka in our server... id much rather see something closer to 20 a wave or higher so some lower power have the opportunity to play without rage quitting or spending a ton to advance.. but thats just me, one of the ALPHA players in the server speaking from my own personal experience....
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-12-29 07:04:56

bladeofcloud replied at 2014-12-29 05:13
well to be clear here dude, there are 5 ryoka per wave and 10 seconds inbetween waves.. this means ...

Shit talk? You must be an idiot to think gogames will implement any feature or fix any current ones, but then i do see many like you here.  High bp/exp doesn't guarantee high game knowledge and you proved it too.  Kids like you sigh!
author: bladeofcloud    time: 2014-12-29 10:15:03

#1 not a kid, #2 you either cant read or suffer short term memory loss as i said gogames wouldn't do anything about this problem. #3 we do get new features on occasion, but believing gogames cares about its player base is a crock of crap. HOWEVER your totally downer attitude is without a doubt a big problem for you in your life.. browsing shizzy game forum talking trash to people, believing you know better then others.. its sad.. and borders on being defined as full of yourself... now ive posted in other threads on occasion and been praised by you, furthers my comment about your memory lose, however your attitude here does nothing you help you or the situation we find ourselves in... getting upset about gogames being bad game developers and raging around in the forums serves only the purpose of destruction on many counts. if you would like to act a little more grown up and intelligent i also suggest you make longer posts that actually give the hint you know whats what. other wise, those who do will know u as a fool and your situation will not change for the better. just an fyi... i work for the navy, i do know what i am talking about (genius iq) and i have a very high paying job field so before you rebuttal, lets just hope you've read and comprehended all of this, your short term memory loss doesn't debilitate you, and you make thorough logical points against what i have said to you.. but as there are very few or none, let your trash talk begin sireee........
author: darklordz931    time: 2014-12-29 11:49:21

bladeofcloud replied at 2014-12-29 09:15
#1 not a kid, #2 you either cant read or suffer short term memory loss as i said gogames wouldn't do ...

and what number is that so called "genius iq" of yours?
author: ibromvlieg    time: 2014-12-29 11:57:39

as of now im the only 1 shotter in my server able to 1 shot till wave 35 [highest we've gotten yet] also i am only doing 2 kills each wave and leave 3 for the others, in that case i might lose drops kills and exp,silver but cant be bothered. i dont want to take the fun off of other players. but yes. they should make it like 10-20 ryoka in 1 wave that way everyone can get a kill on the servers that got many 1 hitters like yours.
author: bladeofcloud    time: 2014-12-29 13:04:39

darklordz931 replied at 2014-12-29 10:49
and what number is that so called "genius iq" of yours?

its above 145, need i say more? they are never a definite measure of intelligence anyway.. basically your average iq test? yeah i get a perfect score on it (whats needed to score 130) so i had to be tested with a psychologist ( the only proper way to take an iq test ). also on any given day your score can be plus or minus around 5 points of what you score, it also has a little to do with the given test. so i cant tell you, ohh hardy har har har my iq is 170 ghahahaha... as it wouldnt really be testable by you, nor would it make you believe me to say. The last time i tested it was around 155..
author: bladeofcloud    time: 2014-12-29 13:14:49

ibromvlieg replied at 2014-12-29 10:57
as of now im the only 1 shotter in my server able to 1 shot till wave 35 [highest we've gotten yet]  ...

thats pretty cool! yours must be a newer server. on ours waves 1-50 die within 3-5 seconds, so no one really gets over 1 kill a wave here. but as there are so many higher power players, its not very fun for anyone. our highest bp player has missed the last 3 days, just ryoka, because until wave 53 or 54, he isnt even in the top 5 for damage as his pc isnt fast enough to get a kill every wave. he is 1.1m bp ish and does like 35m damage or more a hit. but as he isnt fast enough, cant do as well as he should. i personally play ryoka on my phone, because for some reason it is super fast.. this might be a good tip for some who read this.. its nothing fancy either.. just an old iphone 3.
author: ibromvlieg    time: 2014-12-29 14:38:29

bladeofcloud replied at 2014-12-29 19:14
thats pretty cool! yours must be a newer server. on ours waves 1-50 die within 3-5 seconds, so no  ...

got a gamers laptop myself and super fast, but depends though if i have 1 tab with facebook,youtube,google 1 for music 1 for other things. i get a little laggy but still fast enough to go for kills.
i play europe 42 btw. i am #1 in basically everything in my server with a 700k bp right now at lvl 103.
2nd is lvl 92 with 427k bp, but i change my 2-2-1 to a 2-3-0 formation. i use kisuke-rukia-ikaku-kenpachi-main but soon enough ill use upgraded grimmjow from special wars power. i also got 64 reiatsu. but the thing in my server is. no one else changes their formation to a pve formation thats why im still the only 1 that 1 hits. even if i change to pvp formation unohana-gin-ikaku-main-sajin i can 1 hit the 30 minutes. i do around 13m damage each hit in evil spirit so if i get 450m damage in ryoka i get a 140% if im correct so i roughly do 31m damage then. no clue which wave that is or would be since never gotten to such a high wave.
author: bladeofcloud    time: 2014-12-29 19:07:14

ibromvlieg replied at 2014-12-29 13:38
got a gamers laptop myself and super fast, but depends though if i have 1 tab with facebook,youtub ...

you can theoretically one hit up to wave 52. at 52 they also start hitting really hard so you will need to go back to having a VG in at that point. my personal bp is only 655k and im 8m exp from lvl 102. im only averaging around 8-8.5m a hit in evil spirit so well done. us41 here.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-12-29 20:48:01

bladeofcloud replied at 2014-12-29 12:14
thats pretty cool! yours must be a newer server. on ours waves 1-50 die within 3-5 seconds, so no  ...



ur highest player is on honeymoon ?

hmmmm i guess u r same server as yagami huh...

author: bladeofcloud    time: 2014-12-29 21:32:14

yep i am on his server
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-12-29 22:50:07

bladeofcloud replied at 2014-12-29 20:32
yep i am on his server


icic... i guess i know who u r... xixixi...

hows jushiro ? is he better than Rukia ? i am thinkin if he is...

for ES
author: bladeofcloud    time: 2014-12-29 23:07:57

PAOFUI replied at 2014-12-29 21:50
icic... i guess i know who u r... xixixi...

hows jushiro ? is he better than Rukia ? i am think ...

yeh i like jushiro, i never cared much for the fury build for pve... the fury regen heroes have low

%damage from their specials and have to crit a lot to really make a difference in # of fury hits. the only

reason i use urahara right now is ohashi convinced me to get him and use the few fury stones i have for

an instant fury partner once i mod him fully. i also wanted a second support for es, and ryoka up to wave

50, because regardless of who it is they will do more then the vg. figured urahara and jushiro both have

some base combo rate. i never liked rukia really.. when i had her i didnt have ikkaku.. and purple heroes

cant use the hogu im earning now,+ lower stats etc.. so i had to go with jushiro.. he was good for speed

and did major damage.

and yes you are correct, i am kiuchi taijo. do you have a character on our server?
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-12-29 23:27:04

bladeofcloud replied at 2014-12-29 22:07
yeh i like jushiro, i never cared much for the fury build for pve... the fury regen heroes have lo ...


i am in quite a few server...

n i am in there rite now... chattin wit a fren... xixixi...

thanx for ur info on ur jushiro... i wonder if its too late for me to get him...

author: Leitzur    time: 2015-1-5 22:44:30

hey guys, since after merge the waves will be cleared faster (around 15mins to get to wave 51)
what is the nice formation to do ryoka:
1. 2-2-1 until the end
2. 2-3-0 until the end
3. 2-3-0 at wave 1-50, then 2-2-1 / 1-3-1 at wave 51+

please share, thanks guys
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-1-5 22:50:43

Leitzur replied at 2015-1-6 04:44
hey guys, since after merge the waves will be cleared faster (around 15mins to get to wave 51)
what  ...

yo leitz best formation is

0 3 2 till wave 52 then replace it with a 1 2 2 with a healer (unohana) instead of rukia and ofc your vg with high block stones/gear
author: vexatious    time: 2015-1-6 01:36:24

Just curious, whats the highest wave u guys ever seen in US/EU Server?
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-1-6 01:50:17

vexatious replied at 2015-1-6 07:36
Just curious, whats the highest wave u guys ever seen in US/EU Server?

wave 61/62....
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-1-6 01:53:38

vexatious replied at 2015-1-6 07:36
Just curious, whats the highest wave u guys ever seen in US/EU Server?

wave 61/62....
author: Leitzur    time: 2015-1-13 02:12:38

Edited by Leitzur at 2015-1-13 01:14
[email protected] replied at 2015-1-5 21:50
yo leitz best formation is

0 3 2 till wave 52 then replace it with a 1 2 2 with a healer (unohan ...

I already try your suggestion.

After wave 51, it's too much hassle to swap 2 chars: rukia with unohana; 3rd assaulter to VG at middle of event (I lost around 5mins doing so... and the moment I finish swapping partner it's already around wave 55, maybe if 1 char is still acceptable with 2-3mins swapping time)

And unohana isn't great at my case, only at earlier 50 waves koma can take damage for 2 turns, after around wave 54 or so koma mostly died if he is not blocking, and having her healing the assaulters won't help (my assaulter total hp is below 200k and at the next turn ryoka hits me more than 200k)

I guess my koma's block not high enough, even my sado can survive more turns than him
author: Leitzur    time: 2015-1-13 02:16:54

Edited by Leitzur at 2015-1-13 01:20
ajoalex replied at 2015-1-13 01:17
isn't it just a matter of
formation ->drag drop - 2 times
partner-> remove all , equip 6

ik changing equipment and accessories is fast.

then, are you not swapping treasure, hogyoku jades and hollow souls?
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-1-13 02:17:38

Leitzur replied at 2015-1-13 11:12
I already try your suggestion.

After wave 51, it's too much hassle to swap 2 chars: rukia with uno ...

isn't it just a matter of
formation ->drag drop - 2 times
partner-> remove all , equip 6
formation ->drag drop - 2 times
partner-> remove all, equip 6

though i have reached lvl 51 only once lol and that was at the 29th minute 30th second
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-1-13 02:25:22

Leitzur replied at 2015-1-13 11:16
ik changing equipment and accessories is fast.

then, are you not swapping treasure, hogyoku jades  ...

i dont do that cos i havent reached wave 51 yet. but i wouldnt want to do that if i reached lvl 51 and if i have just 5 min in hand. you can try just swapping the gear(which u can do without leaving the game) and see if u can withstand wave 51, if yes then you save those 5 minutes.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-1-13 04:16:11

Leitzur replied at 2015-1-13 08:12
I already try your suggestion.

After wave 51, it's too much hassle to swap 2 chars: rukia with uno ...

I see what you mean, if your vg can't take the first hit and survive there is no point for a healer, as for me i do it in 2 times, one change around wave 52-53 by replacing ikkaku with koma since they share the same gear. Then puting unohana around wave 55.

I just exchange gears accessories and hogus, i don't bother exchanging souls nor hogyoku. with this formation i can still have some kills till wave 60-61 then my vangaurd just get blasted.

Again if koma can't block starting wave 55 and more, there is no need of a healer



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