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author: Daitekusa time: 2017-5-24 13:40:12 Title: Advices for a partner in dragon boat

Hi, need some advices. I've 26k gold to use in dragon boat event but i don't know which partner i should take.

Actually i have demon ichigo/rangiku as tank, berserk renji/koga/white ichigo as assaulters, and kisuke/gamuza/kirinji as support with a tensa zangetsu.

I think the best would be a support, so it would be Raijin, but is she really good to take ? I'm not gonna gold after this purchase.

Thanks.

author: GiroDenis time: 2017-5-24 13:45:39

30k for Raijin is quite a good deal, if you can get that extra top.

author: Daitekusa time: 2017-5-24 13:48:10

with 26k gold i can take any partner in the shop except 40k points partner

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-5-24 14:21:02

Daitekusa replied at 2017-5-24 13:48
with 26k gold i can take any partner in the shop except 40k points partner

your supports are for sure your weak link, but being you put 2x vangs, 3x assaulters, and 3x supports makes me wonder a few things

1) what is your real party

2) are you really trying to keep 8x partners all up to top standing?

3) being that you have Tensa and D Ichi, why is Soph still on your radar at all?

4) how long have you played?

5) what is your level, BP, arena rank, T1 status

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-5-24 14:24:12

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2017-5-24 14:30

from your party I see here, I'd put this as my party
PVP
Tensa, D Ichi, Koga, Kiuske, Tenjiro
PVE
Tensa, B Renji, Koga, Kiuske, Nel

Rajin in, Tenjiro out

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-5-24 14:26:50

Daitekusa replied at 2017-5-24 13:48
with 26k gold i can take any partner in the shop except 40k points partner

1st have you already topped it all?

2nd how you going to get a 30k partner with 24k?

author: GiroDenis time: 2017-5-24 14:29:28

Edited by GiroDenis at 2017-5-24 14:31

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-5-24 14:24
from your party I see here, I'd put this as my party
PVP
Tensa, D Ichi, Koga, Kiuske, Nel

That makes sense, but Idk, I dont really like the idea to play an aggressive van like D.Ichi with dodge (Koga/Nel) instead of full block. That's exactly why I got Kukaku instead of B.Kenpachi. So Soph Rangiku might fit better in that case. Tensa buff for D.Ichi is a joke anyway.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-5-24 14:32:08

GiroDenis replied at 2017-5-24 14:29
That makes sense, but Idk, I dont really like the idea to play an aggressive van like D.Ichi with ...

I am an aggressive vanguard user, so the thought of using Soph, when D Ichi is on the bench just goes against the grain for me... she is fantastic and I used her with great effect in the past... she is very good, just will never be a great vang... which D Ichi can and is

another idea is a hard stacked Yachiro with 150%+ dodge on her before halo or buffs happen... you can't kill what you can't hit, and not many people are past the 350%+ hit rate

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-5-24 14:35:34

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-5-24 14:32
I am an aggressive vanguard user, so the thought of using Soph, when D Ichi is on the bench just go ...

I'd use hollow before i would use demon. Hollow with tensa gets a 20% defense increase after each round and can be built to block as well.

author: GiroDenis time: 2017-5-24 14:35:58

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-5-24 14:32
I am an aggressive vanguard user, so the thought of using Soph, when D Ichi is on the bench just go ...

I knoooooooooooow, I used to be a D.Ichi user, and it hurted to say to go Soph. But it must be said, would you like your Noza to dodge?

author: Daitekusa time: 2017-5-24 14:42:17

I already have the gold, with the event you can get 30k points with 24k gold.

Mylar : no i don't try to keep them at the top i just give partner i can use :p atm my stack partner are koga and brenji ( as for pve i've cute instead of gamuza, i don't really use gamuza for now ), play since 1 year, reia lvl 100, 2m8 bp, 1st arena, kisuke is t1; but i can make any partner t1 if i evo him for the 5 fury bonus + fury on the weapon

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-5-24 14:45:46

GiroDenis replied at 2017-5-24 14:35
I knoooooooooooow, I used to be a D.Ichi user, and it hurted to say to go Soph. But it must be sai ...

while it would be much less than ideal, if it helped me win I'd be good with it... with RJ users out there it would probably be a bad thing, but with no dodge stones on him, that 100% hit aura reduction wouldn't stop me from blocking anyone I'd need to kill with him as 200% hit rate is EASY to get

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-5-24 14:47:03

Jinzo67 replied at 2017-5-24 14:35
I'd use hollow before i would use demon. Hollow with tensa gets a 20% defense increase after each ...

if under VIP5, H Ichi would be a fantastic choice, however this guy is obviously at least VIP5 (probably closer to 7 or higher) so getting Noza (AKA H Ichi x200) should be easy

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-5-24 14:56:12

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-5-24 14:47
if under VIP5, H Ichi would be a fantastic choice, however this guy is obviously at least VIP5 (pr ...

Noza is horrible. Sure he may make a better blocker, but he'll lose every time to another stacked VG because of his skill. EVERY TIME.

I have never used him because of this. Plus a red tavern partner is way higher in growth. He's just out dated.

author: GiroDenis time: 2017-5-24 14:57:01

Jinzo67 replied at 2017-5-24 14:35
I'd use hollow before i would use demon. Hollow with tensa gets a 20% defense increase after each ...

H.Ichigo gets a buff from Zangetsu, not Tensa.

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-5-24 14:59:03

GiroDenis replied at 2017-5-24 14:57
H.Ichigo gets a buff from Zangetsu, not Tensa.

opps. that is right.

author: Raeace time: 2017-5-24 15:00:52

Jinzo67 replied at 2017-5-24 21:59
opps. that is right.

And D.Ichigo gets absolute garbage buff from Tensa...

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-5-24 15:01:22

Daitekusa replied at 2017-5-24 14:42
I already have the gold, with the event you can get 30k points with 24k gold.

I would say get some more money and get ryujin.

All partners will become out dated in time. A good zampacto will stick for a min.

And ryujin will make all partners better ones. Problem solved.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-5-24 15:03:13

Jinzo67 replied at 2017-5-24 14:56
Noza is horrible. Sure he may make a better blocker, but he'll lose every time to another stacked ...

not mine... my Noza has landed me in 11th in my CSB realm boxing with peeps over 3M BP higher than I have... plus once I get his exlcusive skill his annoyance of fury regen fossilize loop BS goes away...

I love my Noza, no regrets at all

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-5-24 15:03:32

Also, hollow itchi with ryujin would be a decent match with hollows defense bond.

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-5-24 15:08:51

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-5-24 15:03
not mine... my Noza has landed me in 11th in my CSB realm boxing with peeps over 3M BP higher tha ...

He still has fossilize then. He just won't regain fury and back to back it then.

None the less, your growth will be low and you will keep raising his exclusive to make up for that.

When you do, you'll fossilize for 2 rounds then 3 rounds and your right back where you started.

author: Daitekusa time: 2017-5-24 15:13:49

Jinzo67 replied at 2017-5-24 15:01
I would say get some more money and get ryujin.

All partners will become out dated in time. A goo ...

i'm not gonna gold ever so i'll never get him xD

author: Miken97 time: 2017-5-24 15:17:10

Jinzo67 replied at 2017-5-24 20:56
Noza is horrible. Sure he may make a better blocker, but he'll lose every time to another stacked ...

that's not true at all, noza's skill can indeed sometimes lose you a fight but if he is able to block assaulters and supporters to death (what he does most of time) then stacked vanguards fight comes to who has higher maximal hp (actually it's often noza's maximal hp versus enemy's vanguard hp after getting hit by noza's skill so noza has little advantage here, unless that vanguard can heal when fossilized what only TSI can do I think) and noza isn't bad on that field, characters like d.ichigo or h.ichigo has a lot lower hp potential and vanguards who has higher hp potential than noza are 20k+ gold, excluding ichibei who is 12k but every ichibei I have fought (excluding RJ users of course since they're other case) was quite easily damaged hard enough to end up having less hp than my noza

author: Daitekusa time: 2017-5-24 15:24:42

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-5-24 14:21
your supports are for sure your weak link, but being you put 2x vangs, 3x assaulters, and 3x suppo ...

In case you miss my message :x

"no i don't try to keep them at the top i just give partner i can use :p atm my stack partner are koga and brenji ( as for pve i've cute instead of gamuza, i don't really use gamuza for now ), play since 1 year, reia lvl 100, 2m8 bp, 1st arena, kisuke is t1; but i can make any partner t1 if i evo him for the 5 fury bonus + fury on the weapon"

I can get noza too

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-5-24 15:26:45

Daitekusa replied at 2017-5-24 15:13
i'm not gonna gold ever so i'll never get him xD

I'd take B kenny then. He has massive increases to your teams attack and decreases to enemy's defense.

mods: Immune fury deduction and restriction
      when attacked 50% chance to deduct attackers fury by 50
      when attacked 100% chance increase all allies critical by 50% 1 round
      add 15% block
      increase all allies attack by 20%
      add 30% avoid injury rate
      when killed clear all enemys defense for 2 rounds

skill: Attack all enemys, growth 220%, increase assulter and support damage rate by 30% and reduce all enemy's defense by 50% for 2 rounds, restore own fury by 50

Bonds: hit rate
      Damage rate
      Damage immunity
      Max HP                (Note) all bonds are in tavern

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-5-24 15:31:17

Daitekusa replied at 2017-5-24 15:24
In case you miss my message :x

"no i don't try to keep them at the top i just give partner i can ...

the only reason i suggested nel is to dodge skill in ryoka, other than that, she's really crap IMO

Koga and B Renji are both very good assaulters

I think D Ichi is the better choice over Soph

and i missed your message earlier, lol thanks for repeating for me

author: Daitekusa time: 2017-5-24 15:34:08

Jinzo67 replied at 2017-5-24 15:26
I'd take B kenny then. He has massive increases to your teams attack and decreases to enemy's defe ...

My biggest prob atm is not to damage others, but more survive before hitting them or outspeed them so i don't know :/

author: Daitekusa time: 2017-5-24 15:34:35

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-5-24 15:31
the only reason i suggested nel is to dodge skill in ryoka, other than that, she's really crap IMO ...

Yeah i prefer DIchi over soph, so any advices on which partner take in the event ?

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-5-24 15:41:59

Daitekusa replied at 2017-5-24 15:34
Yeah i prefer DIchi over soph, so any advices on which partner take in the event ?

probably rajin, but honestly I"m at work, so can't log into game so don't know my choices ATM, lol i'll possibly give better advice when i get home in a few hours, lol

author: GiroDenis time: 2017-5-24 15:45:47

Daitekusa replied at 2017-5-24 15:34
Yeah i prefer DIchi over soph, so any advices on which partner take in the event ?

Benny would be a great punch in your team for sure. Get Raijin only if you're willing to pump all your speed on her and get her pure T1.

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-5-24 15:52:53

Edited by Jinzo67 at 2017-5-24 15:57

Daitekusa replied at 2017-5-24 15:34
My biggest prob atm is not to damage others, but more survive before hitting them or outspeed them ...

Well then yorichi is the way to go. She is fast and can chaos 3 enemys plus mutilate 3 enemy's(also good against ryujin users) she gives 10% speed halo to all in mods and 15% speed boost to all in her skill. She also gets a total of 15 extra fury from evo, 10 being 1st in gold and last 5 in red. She needs T1 though for sure.

Speed is also what you need against ryujin users if you don't have him.

Also chaos is something that can still be done to Muken Aizen.

author: Daitekusa time: 2017-5-24 15:59:22

But raijin can deal real damage? her 80% seems pretty bad no ? xD
And raijin is better than 2 other partner at 15k ? like senju + hiki for exemple

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-5-24 16:01:47

Daitekusa replied at 2017-5-24 15:59
But raijin can deal real damage? her 80% seems pretty bad no ? xD
And raijin is better than 2 other ...

senju+hiki is good, but you would be sacrificing a multi member T1 for it, which IMO isn't worth it

Rajin can for sure deal DECENT damage, but her mutilate and chaos are her real points... plus she's so damn fast to get the buff from your Zan as fast as you can

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-5-24 16:09:34

Daitekusa replied at 2017-5-24 15:59
But raijin can deal real damage? her 80% seems pretty bad no ? xD
And raijin is better than 2 other ...

She is defiantly better then both of them.

Her attack is still good. If it were more then that she would be a monster for sure.

my raijin is 3mill BP and this team is 5.4mill total BP

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

author: Daitekusa time: 2017-5-24 16:16:51

Jinzo67 replied at 2017-5-24 16:09
She is defiantly better then both of them.

Her attack is still good. If it were more then that sh ...

question about raijin, does the chaos always hit the ennemies if only 3 guys survive to the skill ? or it can proc on dead guy

author: GiroDenis time: 2017-5-24 16:19:53

Daitekusa replied at 2017-5-24 16:16
question about raijin, does the chaos always hit the ennemies if only 3 guys survive to the skill ...

Sadly not, the chaos can proc on those killed by the skill.

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-5-24 16:21:50

It takes effect before enemy's are dead(if that makes sense). So if it goes on 2 partners that died only 1 is left with chaos.

So no.

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-5-24 16:23:59

If you kill 3 or more partners, there is a chance it will hit none that are left. Same goes for the mutilate.

author: Daitekusa time: 2017-5-24 16:31:21

Oh okay i see, well thanks for your help, i'll get the raijin then, hope she'll help me to start to win in the csb xP

author: Jinzo67 time: 2017-5-24 16:41:41

Daitekusa replied at 2017-5-24 16:31
Oh okay i see, well thanks for your help, i'll get the raijin then, hope she'll help me to start to ...

Your next problem will be stacked VG's.

Raijin got me past most, then players started getting beefed VG's.

That's why I've had to counter with the best i could do for now and that's a beefed Stark.

He's really good with ryujin cause one of his bonds gives him a 20% defense boost when attacked and i think it stacks on top of the 200% ryujin boost. not for sure.

Idea: 100k deffense. ryujin adds another 200k=300k now. the 20% takes effect and draws 20% from the now 300k instead of from the 100k.

author: Daitekusa time: 2017-5-24 16:50:50

Jinzo67 replied at 2017-5-24 16:41
Your next problem will be stacked VG's.

Raijin got me past most, then players started getting beef ...

So if i start to play vs vg stacked i'm fucked? What option would i have then ?

And yeah but everyone is good with this cheat code called ryujin jakka

author: Cronosel time: 2017-5-24 17:53:13

Demon Ichig ---- Koga / MC ------ Kirinji / Raijin Yoruichi

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