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Title: F2p Pve question..Uryu or Ikkaku [Print this page]

author: CryLight    time: 2017-5-27 16:05:52     Title: F2p Pve question..Uryu or Ikkaku

I am lvl 124 spirit blade..and my pve build is yama,main,shin renji(upgraded one),urahara and cute orihime..i was thinking of changing renji(i kno its really late) and was wondering should i get uryu because obviously hes more stronger than ikkaku but since ikkaku has the regain +25 fury after he skills he should be able to skill every round while uryu would be only able to skill every other round unless theres a combo with supp which lets ignore...so which one is better ? also considering the fact that i need to do alot of lvl up on ikkaku compared to uryu... oh and i dont plan on changing with yama since i was working on him so has 30+ exclusive skill lvl which i dont want to waste...

author: trakiner    time: 2017-5-27 16:54:19

For some reason unknown, people hated this assaulter Uryu. They call him a useless pawn for PVP. PVE only.
author: jimmycricketwin5298    time: 2017-5-27 20:26:30

Get Byakuya or Ukitake to lol 30 ex skill and that would be 10x better than those 2 options. If you can't, then I qould pick ikkaku
author: Ururu_chan    time: 2017-5-29 05:59:34

outside considering that you may not raise your pve that much as long as you keep Yama as your main damage dealer (except for void, ofc)...

I would go first for Ikkaku to replace SWP Renji. Ikkaku is very easy to build. his combo rate makes him better than Byakuya imo.
Uryuu requires a bit of work to be op (evo + mods), so as a f2p you will need more patience before you can use him. when he's done... ikkaku + uryuu will make a great combo :p
author: SolKnight    time: 2017-5-31 11:43:17

I personally say invest in ikkaku and byakyuya for now rather than getting uryu obviously you should go for uryu later as he is top notch PVE assaulter for f2p.
As it stands in my opinion at least ikkaku is the best f2p assaulter for PVE because his mods + Skill(with 2 fury builders with high enough crit) as for byakyua he is the f2p option for pure guaranteed damage in Void and we all the how nice the rewards there are yes exclusive is an option but that is up to you and how much you want to invest in him(once invested byakyuya is worth it.
author: trakiner    time: 2017-5-31 15:02:07

'bout WITHOUT the exc skill but fully stacked-evo-modded, who's better pvp and pve wise: Ikka, Kenpa (tavern) or Uryu?
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-5-31 15:41:56

trakiner replied at 2017-5-31 15:02
'bout WITHOUT the exc skill but fully stacked-evo-modded, who's better pvp and pve wise: Ikka, Kenpa ...

utility wise id say ikka cuz of hes fury drain>uryuu>ken pvp, pve with 2x fury builders ikka>uryuu>ken
special skill % and stat wise ken's ae higher than ikka so normally that whould mean ken does more dmg but ikka gains a nice combo rate from last mod + hes natural and evo combo rate + fury regen will make him skill every round with 2x fury builders and the combo to give xtra round to main or second ass if u run a 0-3-2 form. not to mention that ken's block rate is doesnt stack with c. ori block and her block rate is higher than ken.  my point is, tavern ken is quite useless especially since c.ori got pushed into soul cultivation and with the exclu skills he got even more useless.  uryuu can be good against some semi-stacked vangs if u get hes break high enough.
but id say ikka+byaku are prolly best assaulters to try and get exclu skills and focus them for pve and void
author: trakiner    time: 2017-5-31 17:10:17

[email protected] replied at 2017-5-31 15:41
utility wise id say ikka cuz of hes fury drain>uryuu>ken pvp, pve with 2x fury builders ikka>uryuu ...

I have a red phare 2, evolution 11 red, 7 star byaku. So you are saying it's better to have an already semi-stacked tavern Ikkaku parter with him than a tavern Quincy Uryu picked from scratch?
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-5-31 17:39:44

trakiner replied at 2017-5-31 17:10
I have a red phare 2, evolution 11 red, 7 star byaku. So you are saying it's better to have an alr ...

even tho uryuu has higher stats and higher % on special, hes regular special or exclusive are still single target, and atleast i, have been goin after combo rate for quite some time now for both pvp and pve, so i whould say ikka with hes 18%+ combo rate will help more than uryuu.  i like ikka more cuz hes special drains fury from enemy vg which is good if u go against a semi or fully stacked vg, hes exclu is also quite nice for pvp as he does 160% to all enemys, and u just cant go wrong with more combo rate spread thru ur assaulters. normally i whoulda said csb ken+ a exclu skilled byak with a block rate of 30% whould increase ur dmg in es / ryoka considerably, wastin 4k challenge stones on csb ken is a quite bad move cuz 2x aquaria sets will provide with about same dmg if not even more
but then again its up to you, its ur formation and ur time so the decision is yours ofc, what works for a few doesnt mean its gonna work for others unless u copy down to every single thing they or in this case i say
considerin its hard for us f2p to actually try out different partner/gear/stone/zanp setups, best thing is to see what others with bigger resources are usin and try to adjust their strategy accordin to our own things we have
author: trakiner    time: 2017-5-31 17:47:52

[email protected] replied at 2017-5-31 17:39
even tho uryuu has higher stats and higher % on special, hes regular special or exclusive are stil ...

Very interesting... I like Ikkaku a lot too. So who would be the best assaulter to make a vanguard destroyer (f2p and without exclusive skill)?
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-5-31 18:00:19

trakiner replied at 2017-5-31 17:47
Very interesting... I like Ikkaku a lot too. So who would be the best assaulter to make a vanguard ...

thats a toughie and its debateable, but id say its down to ikka and uryuu, but u whould have to put some work.  uryuu has higher % on special but that extra 10% crit rate is crap so i kinda lean towards ikka still mainly cuz of the fury drain. no matter what vg u up against, except noza which doesnt really need to skill cuz hes the fckin block god, any other vg its pretty much dead if he cant skill.  
noza special can silence a random enemy, but even silenced ur partener will still do normal dmg so its a plus,  but if u go against a hard stacked stark, or demon ichi or a normal worked kuka / ichibe, then the fury steal from ikka will be more helpful
so yeah, against aoe vangs id take ikka everytime unless u have a brenji
or depending on what suports u have, byak's exclu skill is also good if get into longer fights with enemys and they got high hp vangs, if u can wipe hes as/sup line fast and rest of fight is ur team vs hes vang, byaks exclu comes very damn handy then
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-5-31 18:04:34

trakiner replied at 2017-5-31 17:47
Very interesting... I like Ikkaku a lot too. So who would be the best assaulter to make a vanguard ...

lastly, and this is sumtin u know better since i got no ideea what ur form/zanp is,  see which whould help your formation more on the long run before and after exclu skill, 2x aoe attackers ikka and byak, or uryuu single target and random-ish targer with hes exclu skill
author: trakiner    time: 2017-5-31 18:09:27

[email protected] replied at 2017-5-31 18:04
lastly, and this is sumtin u know better since i got no ideea what ur form/zanp is,  see which whou ...

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