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Title: Saving Prestige -- Mistake for 3rd Division Lieutenant? [Print this page]

author: watman time: 2015-1-3 13:07:47 Title: Saving Prestige -- Mistake for 3rd Division Lieutenant?

So I've gone the path of saving Prestige for Mugetsu, some ~5mil Prestige.  Lol

While scanning the list, I noticed from:

4th Division Captain -> 3rd Division Lieutenant = 230,000 prestige

3rd Division Captain -> 2nd Division Lieutenant = 200,000 prestige

Wat?

Also, how will we retain Mugetsu, since there is a daily deduction of 25,000 prestige?  Lol
The #1 spot only gives 20,000 prestige right?

And the only way we get prestige is from the Arena + Beauty Games.
I wouldn't use beauty games for Prestige, nor would it even reach any where near 5,000 a day.

Seems like the only possible spot to retain daily is Soul King & if you're Top #1 in the Arena.

Is there a peak level of Division Rank we should aim for, instead of saving 5mil prestige?  5mil will take a little below 400 days

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-1-3 13:08:23

Don't even worry about it, just try to get as high as possible and keep doing your dailies. Most people will quit before they reach Soul King or Mugetsu anyway.

author: watman time: 2015-1-3 13:28:20

lol, true.

Which is why I asked for a 'peak level of Division Rank'

I'm thinking that peak is your arena rank, due to the prestige gain.

If you're top #1, you gain 20,000 prestige a day, so you can upkeep Soul King.

Anything lower... and you'll have to coordinate accordingly

author: ajoalex time: 2015-1-4 04:23:35

why should it be easy for everyone to get that title? its the top title, so it makes sense that one does his max for that title.
on the other hand, no one would be wasting time for that

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-4 04:35:22

watman replied at 2015-1-3 12:28
lol, true.

Which is why I asked for a 'peak level of Division Rank'

hics... tell me how no.1 rank can get 25k prestige...

yeah i know the 20k prestige bein rank 1...

wat about the other 5k ? how much prestige does a rank 1 arena player earn

i am savin for mugetsu... should be gettin it like in 3 months time...

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-4 05:00:11

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-4 03:35
hics... tell me how no.1 rank can get 25k prestige...

yeah i know the 20k prestige bein rank 1 ...

if you win all your arena battles thats 3k + 500 from CSB no idea where the other 1,5k comes from =P

author: ajoalex time: 2015-1-4 05:18:01

500 prestige daily offering from csb
1.5k for 100g
3k for 500g

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-4 05:28:10

ajoalex replied at 2015-1-4 04:18
500 prestige daily offering from csb
1.5k for 100g
3k for 500g

wats... 1.5k for 100g ? 3k for 500g ?

wats tht...

ok... 3k for all arena battles win... np there....

500 from CSB daily offering ?

ermmm wat about the balance ?

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-4 05:33:43

ajoalex replied at 2015-1-4 04:18
500 prestige daily offering from csb
1.5k for 100g
3k for 500g

correct me if im wrong but you can only buy 1 of those?

author: ajoalex time: 2015-1-4 11:10:10

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-4 14:33
correct me if im wrong but you can only buy 1 of those?

yup, any one of them, but then that is the only way to get those extra prestige i guess.

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-4 11:43:02

beauty girl gives prestige.. Izumo

author: meekrat time: 2015-1-4 12:39:24

Edited by meekrat at 2015-1-4 12:55

I actually was wondering this as well the other day, so luckily I have a answer for this question - how do you gain 25k Prestige in a day to retain your Mugetsu rank?

#1 Arena Chest (keep in mind the Rank of Mugetsu is designed for the #1 player on server really)
x5 Beauty Game (must land every skill shot on the bar within the "perfect" / red zone)
Daily Offering in CSB (the silver costing one is fine)
Win all of your Arena combat chances (should be easy if your #1)

And finally, the missing piece that no one mentioned that puts you just over the 25k mark (without spending gold) - The 11th chest reward in the Soul Seireitei Palace (gives 1000 prestige), which by the time you've earned enough Prestige for Mugetsu you'll likely be this far in the Soul Palace or close to it.

Beauty Game - 1,500ish
Arena Wins - 3,000
Arena Chest - 20,000
Soul Palace Chest - 1,000
CSB Silver Offering - 500
------------------------------------
= 26,000 Daily Prestige

If you accomplish all of that (which costs no gold) then you earn just over 25,000 in one day. Now two things to keep in mind, every 3 days you earn bonus Beauty chances, which will help you get "ahead" more, and in the event that you suck at the Beauty game, or you do not want to use your Soul Palace Chest reward you can also spend gold at the CSB Daily Offering for a high prestige reward.

So it is quite possible to earn 25k prestige in one day (without spending gold/coupons), its actually possible to earn 28,500 a day if you spend gold on max CSB offering/get your bonus beauty chances that day. Although I don't recommend saving for the title, just to be clear - even if you earn 26,000 per day (no gold spending) and earn the extra beauty chances twice a week, it is going to take you just over 80 weeks to accomplish this (with say a starting point of the last rank that doesn't deduct prestige (5th Div Lt.). And that is assuming you never miss a single day of logging in...for...80+ (eighty) weeks (not days). So in a perfect scenario, 560 days (over 1.5 years), in a realistic scenario it would take you well over 2 years. In those 2 years time you could easily continue to upgrade rank and likely achieve somewhere between Arrancar Leader / King of Hueco Mundo, and you'll benefit daily in combat from your upgrade stats, not to mention the aproximate 1,460,000 souls and 383,250,000 silver you'd miss out on (1.5 million souls/nearly 400 million silver) - so again, I wouldn't recommend this strategy of saving for Mugetsu.

Hope this helps

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-4 13:04:53

Mostly just wait another day or 2 even if you can lvl to mugetsu, correct me if i'm wrong, gonna stop at the 3rd division tiitle, then save like a pig prestige till mugetu

ie: 2017 will be the year i'll get it

author: watman time: 2015-1-4 14:26:07

Edited by watman at 2015-1-4 15:55

meekrat replied at 2015-1-4 11:39
I actually was wondering this as well the other day, so luckily I have a answer for this question - ...

Thank you for this post about how to retain Mugetsu.
You and others are correct that it's probably only meant for the #1 player.
I believe the #2 spot gives 16,000 souls, and that's just enough for King of Heuco Mundo

How did you come to the 1.4million soul loss, and 400mil silver loss?

At King of Heuco Mundo, you gain:
740k silver, 2300 souls
vs
5th liet.
300k silver 1700 souls

a difference of 300k and 600 souls, and that's the MAX difference.

So at around 400 days to get to King of Heuco Mundo, lets say you collect the difference every day for the sake of easier math:
400 days * 300,000 silver
400 days * 600 souls

You'd only miss out on 120m silver, and 240,000 souls

This number is actually a lot smaller, because I'm using the Max difference.

There will also be a point where you simply stop gaining prestige due to the daily deduction.
For me that would be around King of Heuco Mundo / Arrancar leader, because that's -14,000 / -10,000 prestige daily.
I know you gain a bit more silver and a bit more soul each upgrade rank, but if you've stepped past 5th lieutenant it'll actually take you twice as long to achieve that title.

Why would it take you twice as long?
Say you gain 13,000 prestige a day.
10,000 arena + 3,000 from winning all fights.

ie: 5th captain -> 4th lieut
that requires 120,000 prestige
Saving Pestige: 120,000 / 13,000 = 9.23
On a gain of 13,000 prestige a day, that will take roughly 9-10 days.
Now lets factor in a -5,000 prestige a day from being 5th captain.
Not Saving: 120,000 / 8,000 = 15
Now that will actually take you 15 days.

Now lets move up another rank.
4th lieut -> 4th captain
that's 140,000 prestige
Saving: 140000 / 13000 = 10.77
That's 10-11 days, now lets factor in -5,000 prestige a day
Not Saving: 140000 / 8000 = 17.5
That's about 17.5 days

Here's where it gets fun
4th capt -> 3rd liet
230,000 prestige
daily is now -6,000
Saving: 230,000 / 13,000 = 17.69 days
Not Saving: 23,000 / 7,000 = 32.85 days

So by the time you get to 4th capt+ the time it takes is already ~twice as long.

The immune buff is great, but is it worth doubling your time?Also, once you've upgraded to 5th Capt+, you can kind of says that you've just signed the agreement that you'll never achieve the Mugetsu Title from Achievements.

Why?
Say you somehow got to Soul King without stopping at 5th Liet
And are rank #1 in Arena, max beauty, max csb 3k, win 3k arena

Max you can gain is 28,500 prestige @ the cost of 500g a day
Now subtract the daily deduction of 20,000 prestige for Soul King
Your daily gain is 8,500.

It takes 600,000 prestige to upgrade from Soul King to Mugetsu
600,000 / 8,500 = 70.58 days
That's going to cost you: 71 * 500g = 35,500 gold as well
So maybe you won't max the csb offering

So you don't gain that 3,000 prestige.
Now your daily gain is 5,500 prestige.
600,000 / 5,500 = 109.09 days
Dang. That's a lot of days as #1 of your servers Arena

I dont know any more @_@

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