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author: watman time: 2015-1-4 19:01:19 Title: Lucky Turn Table

Level 10 Spirit Stone Box

Daaaaang o.o

author: watman time: 2015-1-4 19:08:59

Edited by watman at 2015-1-4 18:14

Haha, you're right.
But the level 6 hogu's not bad either

Did some math.Level 10 stone = 64 * level 4 stone

At VIP 6..
64 * 96 = 6,144 = $153.6

The value of a level 10 stone @ VIP 6 pricing, is $153.6 USD o.o

author: Evild4nte time: 2015-1-4 19:11:10

Haha ^^ with a rate of 0,001 or something like that.

author: iz4n4minok4mi time: 2015-1-4 19:42:58

I am surprized that they put something like that in there when we usually got worse version of stones in events but still.. I dont wanna know the chance for it. In christmas event I havent even once got last line rewards -> fury stone, that coupon for discount and that kind of stuff, this will probably be even worse. With my luck I would probably get silver or exp scroll 50 times lol.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-4 20:14:40

As for now, i don't know anybody from previous lucky turntable events who did win this price in the past, if i recall it was lvl8 at that time wich ws huge since the number one was having only one lvl8 stone, and nobody in the heavy spenders side did get it, don't be surprized nnot to; some of the reward are locked and are there for show nothing, and you'll get pleny of rei pills and bright stones*1

author: King_Akaba time: 2015-1-4 20:24:29

i feel like the lvl 6 hogu and lvl 10 stones are unattainable and for that matter all of the special rewards in the turntable event during the last one i did the 50x 4 or 5 times i think and the best reward i got out of it was the 188 coupons...

author: watman time: 2015-1-4 20:24:30

Edited by watman at 2015-1-4 19:40

I tried the 50x's once, and didn't get the Lvl 6 Hogu or Lvl 10 Stone, haha.
It was expected =P

Did get 6x level 2 spirit stones; so if I could add them horizontally it'd be a level 12 stone. Hahahaaha
Hit 288 coupons and 2x Soul Talismon. Everything else was junk =P

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-4 21:49:27

Edited by BurakCinar at 2015-1-4 21:01

you really believe we'll get those rewards? naw buddy. we might end up with lvl 1 hogu box and lvl 4 stones as usual... maybe 5x epic scrolls 8)

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-4 22:04:11

watman replied at 2015-1-4 19:24
I tried the 50x's once, and didn't get the Lvl 6 Hogu or Lvl 10 Stone, haha.
It was expected =P

i never saw someone getting that lv10 box, and if you somehow get that box game gonna troll you with 1 type you dont want/need

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-4 22:09:08

nieverland replied at 2015-1-4 21:04
i never saw someone getting that lv10 box, and if you somehow get that box game gonna troll you wi ...

this event is not worth it, unless someone wants to get lucky with fury stones '-'

the reio guardian event had cheaper heroes, Z renji and Shinji aren't that good.

they could've released muramasa insteead

author: watman time: 2015-1-4 23:31:53

Edited by watman at 2015-1-4 22:47

nieverland replied at 2015-1-4 21:04
i never saw someone getting that lv10 box, and if you somehow get that box game gonna troll you wi ...

There's no such thing as a level 10 stone that you don't need. Lol

At least, not yet.
The top two stones we have in our server are 2x level 10 Crit Stones.
Owned by our #1, and #2
Less than a handful of level 9's =P

Regardless, you guys are right: chances are undoubtedly really unlikely, but it'll probably happen.

The best likely item for this event is probably the Hogu Enhance Talismans.
Upgraded my Kuchiki Hogu from level 6 -> 7

for 36 Talismans..

Shinji might be useful if one wants to diversify his/her PvP lineup. Preventing stuns and hitting all may prove to be very useful later on in higher level fights.
However, owning Zabimaru Renji... he looks great, but... lacks anything truly amazing.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-1-5 00:25:20

watman replied at 2015-1-5 08:31
There's no such thing as a level 10 stone that you don't need. Lol

At least, not yet.

i hope you do know that the dev decide what to put in the lucky pool and what to be shown in the lucky pool right

author: fablewings time: 2015-1-5 00:28:30

What event is going on? You must be from the future.

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 00:38:49

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-4 21:09
this event is not worth it, unless someone wants to get lucky with fury stones '-'

the reio guard ...

yeh ofc in this event you buy the char + some useless or +- usefull stuff, at reio you get the char + 1 ultimate set and 1 or 2 high lv stones, this event is made for 4 or 5 chars + 1 or 2 Zamp, 1 of that chars maybe Shinso Gin and Muramarsa or Sogyo as zamp, but well yeh this event is good to get some meh freebies

author: watman time: 2015-1-5 00:56:30

Edited by watman at 2015-1-5 03:00

Any notice that this event is actually pretty damned good?

Both for f2p and VIP?

f2p:
You get a free spin every hour.  That's 24 spins a day.
It's 5 days long.  You could potentially get 120 spins, Lol.
10 lucky points per spin, so that's 1200 total points @ 100 per spin, so 12 additional Mysterious Raffles.  For Free.

Then we get people who are complaining that they're getting a 15gold spin, that could reward a $150 USD item as impossible.
Guys..  have you been to Vegas?  Lol.  The chances of winning the the top prize on the slots there is probably similarly as low as winning this level 10 spirit stone prize.

Although I do admit, the partners do suck.
But it's probably because we're asking for partners that we're truly not ready for.
No one on my server bought Shinso Gin, and I have three of the top 10 CSB's in my server.

author: fablewings time: 2015-1-5 01:21:53

watman replied at 2015-1-4 23:56
Any notice that this event is actually pretty damned good?

Both for f2p and VIP?

Whats CSB's?

Are they really that bad? I was going to drop some money on this because getting 35k crystals is insane.

author: watman time: 2015-1-5 01:53:17

fablewings replied at 2015-1-5 00:21
Whats CSB's?

Are they really that bad? I was going to drop some money on this because getting 35k ...

Cross Server Battle 'ers

Zabimaru Renji is a good hero, but with Rei'o Guardian, we got to see Sexy Yoruichi.
And Sexy Yoruichi simply out classes Zabimaru for the same price...
I got Zabimaru Renji when it first came out. Immediately regretted it after Sexy Yoruichi got released 3 days later...

Getting 35k crystals is actually not that bad, because you get a number of stones along the way.
Rei'o Guardian was still much more worth it for the price of gold spent though.

You are right that Zangetsu will cost more than Zabimaru Renji or Shinji; more than both together actually.
However, Zangetsu is an end-game Zanpaktou.
Neither Zabimaru Renji nor Shinji Hirako is an 'end-game' partner

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-1-5 02:00:32

Funny how most of the event partners are completely useless now that we have HMA / SWP.

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 02:06:07

Brahmastra replied at 2015-1-5 01:00
Funny how most of the event partners are completely useless now that we have HMA / SWP.

LOL i know right... everything u need now is like zanpakutos xD

author: watman time: 2015-1-5 02:15:40

Edited by watman at 2015-1-5 01:16

Brahmastra replied at 2015-1-5 01:00
Funny how most of the event partners are completely useless now that we have HMA / SWP.

Strategy Brah'
Strategy. Makes the game much more interesting.

Most of the event partners are still ridiculously strong due to their base stats.

Base stats over 1000:
Shinso Gin: All hit, Stun, +25 all fury, higher agility
Sexy Yoruichi: 305% growth, +25 all fury
Shinigami Yoruichi: 250% growth, random 2, invulnerability
Shinigami Urahara: 170% growth, support line, higher agility
Demon Ichigo: Broken
Isshin: Combo forever
White Ichigo (Zangetsu): atk all, 180% growth, -15% enemy atk, +25% assaulter atk

Good abilties:
Toshiro: -25% atk to VG and Assaulter
Dark Rukia: +12% allies atk, best with Sogyo no Kotowari
Obidient Orihime: Heal Over Time, +12% assaulter atk, +30 assaulter fury
Gorgeous Rangiku: weaker del torro aid buff, better nntoria
Genryusai Yamamoto: atk all, 25% dot burn, 3x unable to recover hp or fury

Only knocked out event partners are:
Zabimaru Renji: not bad, but there are better alternatives for cheaper, comparable to Tavern partners almost (ikkaku)
Shinji Hirako: meh
Christmas Ichigo: joke
Intellectual Nanao: I don't see her use just yet

So out of all the gold event partners.. Most of them are still really good.
Far-cry from 'completely useless' brah

author: fablewings time: 2015-1-5 02:24:24

watman replied at 2015-1-5 01:15
Strategy Brah'
Strategy. Makes the game much more interesting.

I want to thank you for all your info. Im going to hoard all my gold for a good event. Esp. Obidient Inoue, Arrancar Gin (Or Dark Rukia) or sogyo.

author: watman time: 2015-1-5 02:34:13

No problem.

Should plan out what you want since you can already figure out what kind of build you'd like.

I personally would like to try out the combo build for PvE:

Isshin - Main - Sexy Yoru
Rukia / Kisuke / Obidient / Arrancar / D. Rukia
Sogyo No Kotowari

Seems like a TON of silver to be had during events.
But I'd need isshin / sexy / sogyo
hahaha

author: fablewings time: 2015-1-5 02:56:45

Edited by fablewings at 2015-1-5 02:01

watman replied at 2015-1-5 01:34
No problem.

Should plan out what you want since you can already figure out what kind of build you'd ...

"No, replace sexy yoro as her special does not work on ryoka. replace her with ishiin as his extra turn activates very often"

That's what I've heard.
Good luck. Im struggling just waiting for the events to end. As for pve, can hardly get a last hit in while 80-90 just kill everything.

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-5 02:59:19

watman replied at 2015-1-5 01:34
No problem.

Should plan out what you want since you can already figure out what kind of build you'd ...

sexy is no longer needed, shura kenpachi or panterra is better

senbonzakura is better than sogyo

if someone had the SWP kenpachi and senbonzakura, that would be insane dmg
and unless you're like wishatake with VG hp/block on assaulters, vg is needed for wave 51+ in ryoka

author: fablewings time: 2015-1-5 03:08:05

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-5 01:59
sexy is no longer needed, shura kenpachi or panterra is better

senbonzakura is better than sogyo

But doesn't it do AOE dmg? Whats the vanguard going to do?
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author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-5 03:10:26

fablewings replied at 2015-1-5 02:08
But doesn't it do AOE dmg? Whats the vanguard going to do?
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I think you can figure that out on your own.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-5 03:19:14

How long will the event last?
Free player has the oportunity to get Renji or Shinji in 44days!

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 03:32:51

[email protected] replied at 2015-1-5 02:19
How long will the event last?
Free player has the oportunity to get Renji or Shinji in 44days!

you get 2 points for free every hour. the event lasts for 5 days x24 = 120 hours x 2 = 240 points for free at MAX nowhere near free mate

author: watman time: 2015-1-5 04:02:50

Edited by watman at 2015-1-5 03:11

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-5 01:59
sexy is no longer needed, shura kenpachi or panterra is better

senbonzakura is better than sogyo

I can believe that SWP Kenpachi is better due to wave 51+

But how is Panterra better?

Assuming you're using Rukia:

Panterra
200% growth
t1 = 200 * 5 + (4 * 30) = 1120% growth total
else 200 * 4 + 100 + (4 * 30) = 1020%

Sexy
305% growth
t1 = 305 (+25) + 100 + 305 (+25) + 100 + 305 (+25) + (4 * 30) = 1310% growth total
else 100 + 305 (+25) + 100 + 305 (+25) + 100 + (4 * 30) = 1080% growth total

I don't see how Pantera is better?

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-5 04:56:44

watman replied at 2015-1-5 03:02
I can believe that SWP Kenpachi is better due to wave 51+

But how is Panterra better?

panterra with isshin and turn 1 fury

200% x2 = 400% growth rate each round

400% x 5 rounds = 2000% growth..

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-5 05:38:23

lol this turn table event... its a crap event i guess...

lol... gold saved n not spent... yay...

xixixixi

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-1-5 05:41:31

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-5 04:38
lol this turn table event... its a crap event i guess...

lol... gold saved n not spent... yay... ...

It gets better. If you hover over the "event explanation" window it shows Indonesian, I guess.

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-5 05:58:08

Brahmastra replied at 2015-1-5 04:41
It gets better. If you hover over the "event explanation" window it shows Indonesian, I guess.

like how better... coz i dun realli see the diff... we had such event recycling b4...

n i din even bother to do the turn table every time they come out wit it...

hmmmmm ... so do u think its worth it ?

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 06:02:04

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-5 04:58
like how better... coz i dun realli see the diff... we had such event recycling b4...

n i din ...

uhm i guess i got lucky with sniping a fury stone for 450gold. but it depends. you can get 2 hogu talismans + 15 random (gold loots) for 150 gold each.

if the bleach gods are on ur side u can do some nice and juicy profits :>

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 06:15:51

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-5 05:17
lol... bleach god... today i just visited the temple...

i dun see any bleach god in there ... ...

LOL did you notice the little sign on the corner saying "$$$" to enter?

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-5 06:17:46

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 05:02
uhm i guess i got lucky with sniping a fury stone for 450gold. but it depends. you can get 2 hogu ...

lol... bleach god... today i just visited the temple...

i dun see any bleach god in there ... wakakakakakaka

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-5 06:21:00

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 05:15
LOL did you notice the little sign on the corner saying "$$$" to enter?

nope... i din... xixixixi...

anyway i would normally do a donation whenever i visit 1...

wakakakakakaka

well i ll wait for better events... dun feel like spendin...

will top up onli if its realli worth it... meanwhile i dun even need so much gold...

everyday i spend about 200+ coupons tho...

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-5 06:21:41

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 05:21
please bring reio event back???

and wow 200+ a day... thats insane lol

yeah... around there... its for hog jades... extra chances....

2 x 20 coups for buyin vits to complete dailies x2

gold rev for ES to spam n kill the spirit

n sometimes for vasto lord... tries if i feel lucky...

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 06:21:57

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-5 05:21
nope... i din... xixixixi...

anyway i would normally do a donation whenever i visit 1...

please bring reio event back???

and wow 200+ a day... thats insane lol

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 06:25:00

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-5 05:21
yeah... around there... its for hog jades... extra chances....

2 x 20 coups for buyin vits to ...

ohhh sweet.. dunno about the vasto lorde part tho, never feels worth xD

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-5 06:30:55

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 05:25
ohhh sweet.. dunno about the vasto lorde part tho, never feels worth xD

its just for fun sometimes... tryin out luck...

but mostly my coups r for vit... hog jades chances... n gold rev on ES ...

thts all...

hopefully next event we will see somethin nice... sigh...

i dun even know wat to do now... so how did ur CSB go ?

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 06:39:52

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-5 05:30
its just for fun sometimes... tryin out luck...

but mostly my coups r for vit... hog jades chan ...

ya same here ^^ making more coupons daily then spent on vit + hog + ES 2x times.. so ya its nice

uhm i managed to reach 9th, hopefully much higher in 3-4 seasons, my preparations are for 100+ lvl :/

how about you mate?

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-5 06:41:05

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 05:39
ya same here ^^ making more coupons daily then spent on vit + hog + ES 2x times.. so ya its nice

...

finally i didn lose to a BUG...

last CSB a bug cause me my no.1

this time... i got it... but our 2nd guy got messed up on the first day so he was behind me in terms of points

but he caught up real quick...

lucky me... i still able to win him n kept my gap ... i wonder if both me n him can clear all rows

from the beginning... will we end up as a DRAW... obviously if i put everythin in... he would hav

a hard time tryin... but i know he will surely keep it up... coz i ve tested him b4...

best opponent so far i ve met... everyday i regis enuf so tht he is the onli 1 who can win me...

xixixixi... n i ll bring out my guns later on to clear all the rows... xixixixi...

well at least now i ve won CSB at least once.. i can quit anytime i feel like it...

author: DarkPsycho time: 2015-1-5 06:49:21

guys how long is this new event active ? 5 - 7 days? bcuz i dont see the limit on it!

author: Zerrador time: 2015-1-5 06:57:15

But i´m a Spirit Blade user, Shinji Hirako too...so its not that bad? Im lvl 88 right now, will hit 90 soon. Is Retsu Unoha a better option?

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-5 06:58:48

Zerrador replied at 2015-1-5 05:57
But i´m a Spirit Blade user, Shinji Hirako too...so its not that bad? Im lvl 88 right now, will hit ...

uno is a good option esp if u r a f2p....

unless u wanna plan so spend some bucks... but still shinji is not a worth buy... or tht renji...

u can wait for better partners if u wanna spend some bucks...

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 07:01:16

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-5 05:41
finally i didn lose to a BUG...

last CSB a bug cause me my no.1

LOL ya you've officially taken everyones virginity in CSB...
doesnt matter if he joined late, in the end the ranking talks for itself ;)

but hey, mind telling me how many challenge stones + souls rank 1 got?

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 07:05:18

Zerrador replied at 2015-1-5 05:57
But i´m a Spirit Blade user, Shinji Hirako too...so its not that bad? Im lvl 88 right now, will hit ...

shinji is a assaulter from the event

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-5 07:08:42

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 06:01
LOL ya you've officially taken everyones virginity in CSB...
doesnt matter if he joined late, in t ...

nope i did not take everyones virginity in CSB...

maybe in my CSB server...

ermmmm dang... i forgot how many stones i get... i think it was like 65 stone or somethin ?

as for souls i dunno... din even notice...

i deleted the mail as soon i receive stuffs... i like to keep my mail box empty after i read or

collected stuffs from...

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 07:13:59

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-5 06:08
nope i did not take everyones virginity in CSB...

maybe in my CSB server...

np, one beautiful day i'll take your CSB virginity. someone needs to kick your ass

omg only 65? i received 60 at 9th and around 150 souls :O

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-5 07:17:18

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 06:13
np, one beautiful day i'll take your CSB virginity. someone needs to kick your ass

omg only 65? i ...

i am sure theres plenty of ppl out there who can kick mine...

i am just a vip9... lol... theres like tons of vip10s out there...

n i onli hav beaten 1 or 2 of them... xixixi...

yeah i think i saw 65 thingy... of tht stone i think...

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 07:23:14

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-5 06:17
i am sure theres plenty of ppl out there who can kick mine...

i am just a vip9... lol... there ...

np... you're still rank 1. paogod!!!

alright buddy, thx

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-1-5 08:00:22

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-5 04:58
like how better... coz i dun realli see the diff... we had such event recycling b4...

n i din ...

Oh no I'm talking about the fact that the event explanation didn't even get translated. It's still Indonesian instead of English.

And it's only worth it if you want the partners, the extra goldreishi, coupons and possibly a fury stone are a decent side reward. Though there are better events.

author: Zerrador time: 2015-1-5 09:21:29

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-5 05:58
uno is a good option esp if u r a f2p....

unless u wanna plan so spend some bucks... but still ...

okey, the most player sayed that, ty

author: 595459354 time: 2015-1-5 11:21:51

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-5 10:56
panterra with isshin and turn 1 fury

200% x2 = 400% growth rate each round

Lel.

You should consider all Sexy yoru's abilities + stats, the possibilities are waaaaay better than panterra.

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 12:17:39

595459354 replied at 2015-1-5 10:21
Lel.

You should consider all Sexy yoru's abilities + stats, the possibilities are waaaaay better ...

grim>sexy yuro

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-5 12:49:48

595459354 replied at 2015-1-5 10:21
Lel.

You should consider all Sexy yoru's abilities + stats, the possibilities are waaaaay better ...

ok, sure without her attack mod she's weaker than kenpachi, i'm not here to debate anything with you.

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 13:05:58

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 06:13
np, one beautiful day i'll take your CSB virginity. someone needs to kick your ass

omg only 65? i ...

sorry bro but i dont think you got 150 souls i end 5th and i got 60stones+ 80souls for the end of season + 50 souls daily as SS rank, so i dunno how you can manage till 150 if i got 130

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 13:06:58

nieverland replied at 2015-1-5 12:05
sorry bro but i dont think you got 150 souls i end 5th and i got 60stones+ 80souls for the end of ...

no idea, i had 47souls + 730 challenge stones and ended up with 185 souls and 790 stones <.<

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 13:09:06

Brahmastra replied at 2015-1-5 07:00
Oh no I'm talking about the fact that the event explanation didn't even get translated. It's still ...

they are a lot more lazy now dont even bother on translate just copy paste from Indo servs, they are worst everyday

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 13:10:44

595459354 replied at 2015-1-5 10:21
Lel.

You should consider all Sexy yoru's abilities + stats, the possibilities are waaaaay better ...

dont think so Pantera still have better average dmg than S.Yoru

with Isshin Pantera can be a looooot better

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 13:14:11

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 12:06
no idea, i had 47souls + 730 challenge stones and ended up with 185 souls and 790 stones

well that sound weird but anyway, you can get a lot less stones at the end of season here even if i only do 1 day CSB there i got 100 souls

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 13:24:57

nieverland replied at 2015-1-5 12:14
well that sound weird but anyway, you can get a lot less stones at the end of season here even if ...

ya it does... but i always check how much i got of everything before recieving anything incase bugs were to happen

and wow lol.. share the power pls

author: bladeofcloud time: 2015-1-5 13:30:28

CryLight replied at 2015-1-5 12:30
well is it just me or the mod for genryuusai yamamoto isnt there in the modify page..??

ulquiorra all the way

author: CryLight time: 2015-1-5 13:30:29

watman replied at 2015-1-5 12:15
Strategy Brah'
Strategy. Makes the game much more interesting.

well is it just me or the mod for genryuusai yamamoto isnt there in the modify page..??

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 13:39:22

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 12:24
ya it does... but i always check how much i got of everything before recieving anything incase bug ...

lol my CN acc sux

but i say even CSB rewars are a lot better there

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 13:42:08

CryLight replied at 2015-1-5 12:30
well is it just me or the mod for genryuusai yamamoto isnt there in the modify page..??

nop we dont have Yama-jii there

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 13:43:49

nieverland replied at 2015-1-5 12:39
lol my CN acc sux but i say even CSB rewars are a lot better there

expected it to be =P... do you know what those vip shops are? i checked CN once and saw some weird vip 1-10 shops to buy rewards from ^^

mind explaining what that was?

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 13:51:46

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 12:43
expected it to be =P... do you know what those vip shops are? i checked CN once and saw some weird ...

at stone shop??

author: watman time: 2015-1-5 13:53:41

Edited by watman at 2015-1-5 13:05

nieverland replied at 2015-1-5 12:10
dont think so Pantera still have better average dmg than S.Yoru with Isshin Pantera can be a l ...

How does Pantera have better Average damage?
Where is the math for this?

Sexy Yoruichis stats far outshine Panteras by a mile.

Pantera's Partner Attributes are:
STR: 200
AGI: 150
WIS: 150
HP: 480
Talent: 20% damage rate 5% combo rate
Skill: 200%, recover 100% fury (other effects don't work)

Sexy Yoruichi
STR: 1000+
AGI: 1000+
WIS: 1000+
HP: 1000+
Talent: Increase STR 15%, 10% combo
Skill: 305% growth, +10% supp dmg rate, +25 fury all

So being equally equipped:
Sexy Yoruichi should have the better base stats and attack.
Better base stats leads me to believe that will give her character the clear advantage, much like Shinigami Yoru/Urahara.

Unless you're saying Pantera's natural 20% damage rate outshines over 1000 base stats??

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 13:54:26

nieverland replied at 2015-1-5 12:51
at stone shop??

i think so yeah

author: 595459354 time: 2015-1-5 14:21:55

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 18:17
grim>sexy yuro

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 15:12:17

watman replied at 2015-1-5 12:53
How does Pantera have better Average damage?
Where is the math for this?

have you tried S.Yoru nop i guess well ive battle some and some friends told me his dmg isnt better than Uryu, anyway Sexy Yoru need Urahara and Rukia to get full fury right so she cant recover herself full fury every turn so i guess you know what average means, ok so lets put this w/o crits Grimmjow deals 200% every turn S.Yoru 1 turn 305% 2 turns 100% so at the end Grimmjow deals 600% dmg in 3 turns > S.Yoru 505% and his base stats + growth rate arent really high to say that she is a lot better a lot better than Grimm and Grimm is more usefull at high Ryoka waves (more if you unlock his 2nd mod) wave 50- are meh

, btw sorry bro but i notice that you post some things w/o thinking and some ppl didnt bother even to answer your posts because of that

(when you prove that im glad to say that im wrong, btw i gonna get Pantera in 10 days so lets see)

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 15:17:24

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 12:54
i think so yeah

gonna check but seems like are some cheap box with some useless stuff you can buy depend on your Vip lv

author: 595459354 time: 2015-1-5 15:42:32

nieverland replied at 2015-1-5 21:12
have you tried S.Yoru nop i guess well ive battle some and some friends told me his dmg isnt bette ...

You're forgetting that she can give 5chars: 25-37 additional fury, I got her and she's wonderfull (specially in royka, since you don't need a rukia = 1-3-1 setup).

ps: Sexy yoruichi is still a female ;p

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 16:02:21

nieverland replied at 2015-1-5 14:17
gonna check but seems like are some cheap box with some useless stuff you can buy depend on your V ...

ya do that please, that really got my attention =P who knows... might be something juicy in there

author: watman time: 2015-1-5 16:20:57

Edited by watman at 2015-1-5 15:30

nieverland replied at 2015-1-5 14:12
have you tried S.Yoru nop i guess well ive battle some and some friends told me his dmg isnt bette ...

Could you formulate your responses into sections, rather than a giant wall of text?  Thanks.
Makes it a little easier to comprehend.

So your math is:
Without Rukia's buff.

grimjaw deals 200% every turn *what about the first turn?
S.yoru deals 305% and 2 turns 100%

So to do the math your way, turn by turn.  Grimjaw Pantera:
100 + 200 + 200 = 500% in 3 turns:
extrapolated to 5 turns:
100 + (200 * 4) = 900%

Sexy Yoru:
100 + 305 + 100 = 505% in 3 turns:
extrapolated to 5 turns:
100 + 305 + 100 + 100 + 305 = 905%

So...  On average.  Sexy Yoruichi still deals 5% more damage.

Also:
"btw sorry bro but  i notice that you post some things w/o thinking and some ppl didnt bother even to answer your  posts because of that"

Care to elaborate?

*have you tried s.yoru, nop?
-- Have you?  You've: "battle some and some friends told me his dmg isn't better than Uryu"
-- Have you tried S.Yoru?
-- And no, not Shinigami Yoruichi, Sexy Yoruichi incase you're fudging the names together.-- To answer your question: I fight my top 3's Sexy Yoruichi constantly.
-- No one has Pantera yet, and don't think we'll be getting him due to the math we've calculated thus far.
-- So please, don't answer the question you're asking me, yourself

*Sexy Yoru need Urahara and Rukia to get full fury right so she can't recover herself full fury every turn so i guess you know what average means
-- No, I don't know what this means. Do you? If you still don't, please refer to my 'post some things w/o thinking' calculations above

*when you prove that i'm glad to say that i'm wrong...
-- Please. Let me know if you forgot to fully think through your post before posting:
"Grimjow deals 600% dmg in 3 turns > S.Yoru 505%"

*btw i gonna get Pantera in 10 days so lets see
-- Yes. Please do let the community know so we can get better damage at Ryoka! That would be greatly appreciated ^^

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-1-5 16:39:59

Don't forget Panteras "decrease enemy vanguard's defense by 15% for 3 rounds"
Have fun calculating that though, LOL.

Also how reliable are the 200% vs 305% +100% +100% attacks?
Shouldn't we also calculate growth rate and what not?

Just thinking out loud.

author: watman time: 2015-1-5 16:52:37

Brahmastra replied at 2015-1-5 15:39
Don't forget Panteras "decrease enemy vanguard's defense by 15% for 3 rounds"
Have fun calculating t ...

Negative effects don't affect Ryoka, ie: Isshin
That's why Isshins Combo is so OP in Ryoka

These are without crits and are baseline calculations of the two partners.
Hence 'average' or what I prefer to calculate 'worst-case scenario'

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-1-5 16:57:48

watman replied at 2015-1-5 15:52
Negative effects don't affect Ryoka, ie: Isshin
That's why Isshins Combo is so OP in Ryoka

>Negative effects don't affect Ryoka, ie: Isshin
Really? o wow I never noticed that LEL

>Hence 'average' or what I prefer to calculate 'worst-case scenario'
yeah same

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 18:04:50

nieverland replied at 2015-1-5 17:05
yeh well i gonna try to see if i can do something about it

sweet, thx a lot

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 18:05:54

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 15:02
ya do that please, that really got my attention =P who knows... might be something juicy in there ...

yeh well i gonna try to see if i can do something about it

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 18:19:59

595459354 replied at 2015-1-5 14:42
You're forgetting that she can give 5chars: 25-37 additional fury, I got her and she's wonderfull ...

yeh well Sexy Yoru still is nice but as i said in Ryoka late waves Grimmjow is better IMO i only use 1-3-1 formation because till wave 50 is really to one shoot so only Urahara as support and S.Yoru cant do her skill once per turn only with Urahara so is better using an char that can do more dmg faster, because after wave 58 ryoka kill vg fast

Yeh well i agree with the fact SEXY Yoru is an nice char to get but still Grimmjow is free and i think the 20% dmg is really nice need to try Grimmjow but sound nice

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-1-5 18:32:28

Shinji is a lot better then people give him credit for. A great deal of higher level/equal combat is about control. Being able to freely do 130% damage ( nothing to scoff at ), and protect your main is pretty good. It also allows you to completely skip support Yoruichi, as you have zero fear of controlling your assaulters. His wording is awkward, he doesn't dispel debuffs at all, so it sounds more like he prevents debuffs and stuns, in which case he is also quite good against Isshin.

Renji is also quite good at what he does. Though his ability, unlike Shinji's, is not something unique to him. There are other characters at higher level that do the same thing if not better.

As for the Turn Table, I ran it 4000 times. I did not get ANY of the Fire stuff ( 288 coupons, level 10 box, level 6 hogu box, 200 golden reishi ) or even a level 5 spirit box. I know of one person ( 3 on my new server got event characters ) that got a level 6 hogu, but that was all.

So basically:

I spent 5000 gold on:
Shinji
2000 coupons
50M silver
800ish golden reishi
60 or so Bright stones
71 level 2 spirit boxes
54 Hogu Enhance Talismans

All in all it wasn't all that bad. The level 2 spirit boxes are worth basically 1704 gold ( at the 12 per rate of VIP 6 x 2 ). Hogu Enhance talismans have a subjective value, but even at 10 gold each ( which I think we probably would all pay ), that is 540 gold worth. If you calculate the coupons, spirit boxes, and hogu, that is only a 756 gold event character + the other stuff that may matter depending on what level you are for free.

author: Xcution12 time: 2015-1-5 18:34:22

how long does this evnt last again XD on teh side note can i get 4200 pts for shinji without using gold [btw im at 3064 pts]

author: watman time: 2015-1-5 18:39:54

Edited by watman at 2015-1-5 17:45

nieverland replied at 2015-1-5 17:19
yeh well Sexy Yoru still is nice but as i said in Ryoka late waves Grimmjow is better IMO i only u ...

Sexy Yoruichi can use her skill once every other turn due to Kisuke or Rukia.
She may not be able to use her skill every turn, but as the numbers I've put up show. Yoru's still better than Pantera.

You are entitled to whatever you wish your opinion to be, but if you're going to say that Grimjaw Pantera is better in 'average' damage output than Sexy Yoruichi then you are going to have to back that up with concrete numbers.

Otherwise, you're 'not thinking it through' and being a hypocrite.
Not a good way to come across.

Aristeaus:
You're right. Shinji Hirako is a counter to Isshin and the controlling like.
Can Shinji Hirako use his skill if he's under control though?
ie: From those that have a Increase Agi by a Higher percent: Shinsoo Gin & Aizen

Xcution12:
How did you manage to get 3062 points without using gold?!?
That's amazing!

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 18:45:32

watman replied at 2015-1-5 17:39
Sexy Yoruichi can use her skill once every other turn due to Kisuke or Rukia.
She may not be able ...

ok this is the last time i answer because you dont know what im talking because you arent even lv100 and i guess you never fight after wave 50 at ryoka, but your vg cant survive much rounds so its better someone than can deal high dmg every turn not only do her/his skill once or twice per fight + he is FREEEEEEEEE!! ok hopefully you cant answer this

author: watman time: 2015-1-5 18:52:52

nieverland replied at 2015-1-5 17:45
ok this is the last time i answer because you dont know what im talking because you arent even lv1 ...

I'm level 84, and I've gotten up to wave 56 on my server for Ryoka.
Please stop assuming things about me and discrediting my assertions due to not being 'level 100'

If your vg is having troubles surviving the Ryoka.
How are your assaulters going to survive that same damage?
If anything, Sexy Yoruichi's ability to survive is far superior to Panteras due to their base stats.  No?

I've proven to you that Sexy Yoruichi deals more damage.
Do you agree?

I've proven to you that Sexy Yoruichi allows all your partners to skill once every other turn.  Including your VG.
Do you agree?

What does being free have anything to do with this conversation?
This debacle of a debate was about which partner will deal more 'average' damage.
And as proven before, point for point, Sexy Yoruichi will benefit a person's PvE team far better than Pantera.

Unless your whole argument was to prove:
Grimjaw Pantera is better for the f2p player.
In which case, your arguments thus far have been sub-par and ill-delivered.
And I agree.  Grimjaw Pantera is better for f2p and comparable to Sexy Yoruichi.

To end my digression from the main topic:
Sexy Yoruichi will deal more damage 'average' than Grimjaw Pantera.

author: watman time: 2015-1-5 19:02:15

Edited by watman at 2015-1-5 18:29

Xcution12 replied at 2015-1-5 18:03
no i used gold for tht XD i was askign if i cud get 4200 without using MORE gold

24 shots a day

~80 tries left, 2 points each = 160 points max

Probably not =P

author: LadyKyojin time: 2015-1-5 19:03:17

Edited by LadyKyojin at 2015-1-6 00:39

watman replied at 2015-1-5 23:52
I'm level 84, and I've gotten up to wave 56 on my server for Ryoka.
Please stop assuming things abo ...

i think Sexy yor is op in ryoka and ES im happy with her, but i will try other partners when i get bord almost got nel, grimmy and ulq should be interesting. hers some maths for you lol panterra base attack 200 plus 20% damage rating = 240

As for this event meh no prizes or characters interest me, this doesnt mean its bad a event lol some may like it.

author: Xcution12 time: 2015-1-5 19:03:32

watman replied at 2015-1-5 18:39
Sexy Yoruichi can use her skill once every other turn due to Kisuke or Rukia.
She may not be able t ...

no i used gold for tht XD i was askign if i cud get 4200 without using MORE gold

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-1-5 19:13:04

Watman:

Shinji, like everyone else, cannot use his skill while under control. His Agi growth rate is 3.1, and has the 15% agility talent, making him quite fast, but not nearly the fastest. He has a higher AGI growth rate then Hallibel, and Gin ( 2.6, and 2.9 vs 3.1 ), so even in the same gear/zanpakuto, he will be faster then either of them(They both have the same 15% Talent as Shinji).

Aizen hits Supporters, not Assaulters.

Ideally you would run a Formation that capitalizes on his effect. Traditionally, if you want to run a 1-3-1 formation, you need a extremely fast support stunner to ensure that a single skill use doesn't shut down your entire assaulter line(Or use skill 4, but that is jokes).

author: 595459354 time: 2015-1-5 19:20:40

nieverland replied at 2015-1-6 00:19
yeh well Sexy Yoru still is nice but as i said in Ryoka late waves Grimmjow is better IMO i only u ...

using ishiin aswell in the 1-3-1

But yeah grimmjow sure seems a good char, advising my guildies to take him>kenpachi tavern (if they're vip1)

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 19:27:31

Xcution12 replied at 2015-1-5 18:03
no i used gold for tht XD i was askign if i cud get 4200 without using MORE gold

nop 0 prob bro free tries give 2 points and 77 hours left so 154 more free points for you

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-5 19:31:09

595459354 replied at 2015-1-5 18:20
using ishiin aswell in the 1-3-1

But yeah grimmjow sure seems a good char, advising my guildi ...

yeh gonna try Grimmjow + Ikkaku with last mod (still need 12 days more till last mod

) and see how it goes, but i guess is a nice duo

or Uryu instead of Ikkaku who knows

author: Xcution12 time: 2015-1-5 19:59:16

watman replied at 2015-1-5 19:02
24 shots a day

~80 tries left, 2 points each = 160 points max

btw i got my parnter an hour ago xD

author: chamsdar time: 2015-1-5 20:46:44

no one will ever get that box!

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-5 21:50:26

chamsdar replied at 2015-1-5 19:46
no one will ever get that box!

been there, done that ;)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-5 22:07:14

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-5 20:50
been there, done that ;)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

inb4 lv10 dodge

INB4 INB4

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-1-5 22:11:34

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-5 21:07
inb4 lv10 dodge

INB4 INB4

Inb4 lv10 dodge + SWP nel

You people need to think outside the box :-P

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