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author: Zuberic    time: 2017-6-23 14:26:07     Title: About Freeze

How does Toshiro's freeze actually work? One would think that a frozen target won't be able to attack but, whenever i'm frozen I can still attack.

Does anyone have information on this?
author: theunknown404    time: 2017-6-23 14:45:09

If you are attacked by something after being frozen, the ice breaks (although visually it still seems like it's there). That's why you are still able to move.
author: Rokianas    time: 2017-6-23 14:47:35

Well from as much as i have fought against him i realized this:

If Toshiro freeze you, you cannot do basic attack (for assoulters, since his skill disarm only assoulters). But if assoulter have enough fury for his skill, he still cast his skill.

Atleast that's what i remember from fighting him.

PS
I hope you asked about Toshiro from Special War Power
author: Zuberic    time: 2017-6-23 14:51:39

Rokianas replied at 2017-6-23 20:47
Well from as much as i have fought against him i realized this:

If Toshiro freeze you, you cannot d ...

Sorry it's about mature Toshiro
author: Zuberic    time: 2017-6-23 14:57:40

theunknown404 replied at 2017-6-23 20:45
If you are attacked by something after being frozen, the ice breaks (although visually it still seem ...

Does that apply to zanpakuto attacks?

Frozen here: http://mybankai.game.ggcorp.me/f ... ;t=1&lang=en_Eu

No shield were up either on Yhwach.

author: ohmyvenus    time: 2017-6-23 15:21:12

Zuberic replied at 2017-6-23 14:57
Does that apply to zanpakuto attacks?

Frozen here: http://mybankai.game.ggcorp.me/fightreport/?r ...

can try battle again? i think yhwach got xtra round
author: PhilC71    time: 2017-6-23 16:23:47

Zuberic replied at 2017-6-23 14:57
Does that apply to zanpakuto attacks?

Frozen here: http://mybankai.game.ggcorp.me/fightreport/?r ...

looks like hes zanp broke the freeze effect, comin over to read toshi's stuff
author: jgooner    time: 2017-6-23 19:38:25

Zuberic replied at 2017-6-23 21:57
Does that apply to zanpakuto attacks?

Frozen here: http://mybankai.game.ggcorp.me/fightreport/?r ...

good question, did zanpa wake him or death skill of koga
author: blackdragon626    time: 2017-6-23 20:49:37

the freeze was from toshiros mods which doesnt stop any skills or normal attacks from hitting as it doesnt give the disarm effect
author: Zuberic    time: 2017-6-23 21:03:45

Edited by Zuberic at 2017-6-24 03:10
blackdragon626 replied at 2017-6-24 02:49
the freeze was from toshiros mods which doesnt stop any skills or normal attacks from hitting as it  ...

Please clarify exactly how Toshiro's freeze mod is any different from his skill that freeze all enemies for 1 round.

And also tell me exactly where you got that 'Toshiro's freeze mod doesn't stop any skills or normal attacks from hitting'.

If that were the case why does he even have a mod that doesn't do anything but add some ice cube effects?


author: Zuberic    time: 2017-6-23 21:09:45

jgooner replied at 2017-6-24 01:38
good question, did zanpa wake him or death skill of koga

the mutilate could be an option.
author: theunknown404    time: 2017-6-23 22:04:14

Zuberic replied at 2017-6-23 14:57
Does that apply to zanpakuto attacks?

Frozen here: http://mybankai.game.ggcorp.me/fightreport/?r ...

Any attack, including Zanpakuto, will break the ice effect.
author: theunknown404    time: 2017-6-23 22:10:27

Zuberic replied at 2017-6-23 21:03
Please clarify exactly how Toshiro's freeze mod is any different from his skill that freeze all ene ...

There isn't anything different about the freeze from skill and the freeze from mod except that they supposedly have different growth rates (the damage % they increase an attack by).
author: Zuberic    time: 2017-6-23 22:16:29

theunknown404 replied at 2017-6-24 04:04
Any attack, including Zanpakuto, will break the ice effect.

So to sum it all up: normal hit, skill, zanpakuto, shield, block can neglect the freeze and probably mutilate and burn? That's alot of counters.
author: theunknown404    time: 2017-6-23 22:25:55

Zuberic replied at 2017-6-23 22:16
So to sum it all up: normal hit, skill, zanpakuto, shield, block can neglect the freeze and probabl ...

Ice was not meant to hold a partner easily. In exchange, there are also no direct immunity mods for it (yet away). Shield is the only thing that can protect you from being frozen.
author: Zuberic    time: 2017-6-23 22:57:27

theunknown404 replied at 2017-6-24 04:25
Ice was not meant to hold a partner easily. In exchange, there are also no direct immunity mods fo ...

But what's the point in freezing an enemy if he can still attack?

Doesn't that make the freeze kinda pointless to have?

It would make you question as to why they even bothered adding it in, if it weren't going to do anything.

Isn't that just a waste? Or do you think so otherwise?



author: Devvoke2    time: 2017-6-23 23:04:55

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author: theunknown404    time: 2017-6-23 23:22:05

Zuberic replied at 2017-6-23 22:57
But what's the point in freezing an enemy if he can still attack?

Doesn't that make the freeze ki ...

Freeze is still very useful. It can cause your enemy's partner to lose their turn if timed right. You just have to use it right.
author: Zuberic    time: 2017-6-23 23:22:22

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-6-24 05:04
freeze for damage

they may have changed it or fixed it from back then

Freeze for damage? As in ''it deals damage to the one who's frozen? Or am I misunderstanding it?
author: Zuberic    time: 2017-6-23 23:26:55

theunknown404 replied at 2017-6-24 05:22
Freeze is still very useful. It can cause your enemy's partner to lose their turn if timed right.  ...

But then you pretty much have to attack first.

author: mayuri1177    time: 2017-6-23 23:43:35

Its hard to see here since the freeze debuff icon doesn't show, but Nemu's turn gets skipped in the first round.
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

author: theunknown404    time: 2017-6-24 00:05:32

Zuberic replied at 2017-6-23 23:26
But then you pretty much have to attack first.

If you want to lessen the odds of missing your turn.
author: Zuberic    time: 2017-6-24 03:23:14

mayuri1177 replied at 2017-6-24 05:43
Its hard to see here since the freeze debuff icon doesn't show, but Nemu's turn gets skipped in the  ...

It's quite easy to see that Nemu didn't attack.

Oh yeah, if we ever get an event were we can fight other players from US/EU let's fight
author: Devvoke2    time: 2017-6-24 08:37:57

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author: theunknown404    time: 2017-6-24 08:50:51

Edited by theunknown404 at 2017-6-24 08:54
Devvoke2 replied at 2017-6-24 08:37
yes it causes increased damage

so making the partner that has freeze go first and the rest of you ...
it stated in handsome toshirou mods that upon death he would freeze a partner(s), forgot how many

Whole enemy team.

not 100% sure since freeze use to stop even normal attacks

It still does this. Edit: You are talking about PvE monsters? Yes, they can't be stopped from moving from the ice anymore.

yes it causes increased damage

As Devvoke is saying, there is a growth rate on Freeze. Before it breaks, it will increase the damage on the enemy by that %.
author: Zuberic    time: 2017-6-24 15:12:04

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-6-24 14:37
yes it causes increased damage

so making the partner that has freeze go first and the rest of you ...

Ah I see, thanks for the info
author: Devvoke2    time: 2017-6-24 16:18:11

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