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author: Xcution12 time: 2015-1-11 16:48:57 Title: hyorinmaru reio zan

Edited by Xcution12 at 2015-1-11 16:55

[attach]3982[/attach] [attach]3983[/attach] is this enuf to get hyorinmaru [ps i get 624 more gold in 4 days

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-1-11 17:08:16

If you used the 8 free janken attempts each day, you would end up being 10076 gold short.

Hyorinmaru is 54 tokens. 41x300 ( which is 6x50 in auto wins ), is 12300 gold. -2224 for your remaining gold = 10076.

What you have can only get you about 7 more tokens.

author: Xcution12 time: 2015-1-11 17:15:49

Aristeaus replied at 2015-1-11 17:08
If you used the 8 free janken attempts each day, you would end up being 10076 gold short.

Hyorinmar ...

>_< dang it all ty aristeaus

author: Xcution12 time: 2015-1-11 17:18:26

also wuts the chances of hyorinmaru appearing again like shini shinji did ? or shud i just go ahead and use tht gold?

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-1-11 17:44:07

Appearing in this event or in another event?

author: Xcution12 time: 2015-1-11 17:46:19

Aristeaus replied at 2015-1-11 17:44
Appearing in this event or in another event?

another evnt

author: watman time: 2015-1-11 17:46:41

Hyorinmaru has shown up multiple times.

He'll be repeated at least twice in Rei'o Guardian.
He showed up in that Bell Event
He showed up in UBP

Rei'o Guardian is the best time to get hyorin though, for <20k gold
You get a lot of good stuff in the process.

1x Lvl 7 Hogu or 5x Lvl 7 Agi Stone
3x Lvl 80 Relampago
2x Lvl 100 Access or Cyclone
2x Partners

Miscellaneous small stuff from Kokuo

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-1-11 17:50:18

Xcution12 replied at 2015-1-11 16:46
another evnt

Probably. You are still looking at 10k+ gold though.

author: Xcution12 time: 2015-1-11 17:51:13

watman replied at 2015-1-11 17:46
Hyorinmaru has shown up multiple times.

He'll be repeated at least twice in Rei'o Guardian.

i dont have the money for 20k gold

author: Xcution12 time: 2015-1-11 17:55:49

[email protected] replied at 2015-1-11 17:57
Guyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyys!!!!!!!!!!!!! don't go for this in this event, hyorin shows up in ubp also for ...

ya i was thinking they will do hyorin UBP again so i used it all XD

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-11 17:57:11

Guyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyys!!!!!!!!!!!!! don't go for this in this event, hyorin shows up in ubp also for less gold

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-11 18:54:52

Xcution12 replied at 2015-1-11 23:55
ya i was thinking they will do hyorin UBP again so i used it all XD

there is a high proba hyorin gona show up again, we already got it in server twice in ubp if i'm right, it's a good zan, but not worth the amount asked in this event, if you willling to spend lot of gold here gor for the twin zan and take two partners with it, hyorin gonna show up in ubp, not that i'm a medium but the pattern showed he will, even zangetsu here is a crook

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-1-11 19:44:12

[email protected] replied at 2015-1-11 17:54
there is a high proba hyorin gona show up again, we already got it in server twice in ubp if i'm r ...

I disagree. While I would have liked to have paid less for Hyorinmaru, it is the best currently available zanpakuto in the game. Just look at the CN "Metagame" if you will. It is dominated by Hyorinmaru. This is with Zangetsu and Muramasa in the mix for a while now.

It is because Hyorinmaru gives you more then the other zanpakuto do, it is just disguised.

So, if you look at the overall character pool for each position, Assaulters have higher growth rates, while supporters are faster with lower growth rates. Both have effects attached to skills, but generally speaking those effects need to go off to matter. It is the old adage of How much damage does a dead or CC'd character do?

Hyorinmaru gives more then Zangetsu in this regard. While Zangetsu gives more speed ( 3% ), and +12% after buff, Zangetsu is not likely to give its buff before Hyorinmaru's supports get a chance to go. Additionally, with higher Agility growth rates on support, that 18% speed is worth more then the 33% speed that assaulters get ( because speed % is a multiplier after agility % ).

Muramasa out speeds Hyorinmaru so that does present some problem for Hyorinmaru, but a 3-1-1 Muramasa team will find it difficult to get through a Hyorinmaru tank, as Supports aren't that great at vanguard killing and since there growth rate is lower, the defense of a Hyorinmaru tank will take most of those blows for DAYS. Muramasa however is technically better then Hyorinmaru, but again Muramasa is not even out yet. Additionally, this whole post is the reason why Muramasa is cheaper ( despite being better ) then Zangetsu in CN ( 40 vs 54 ). It is because Hyorinmaru fills a role quite near the role Muramasa fills. And honestly, Hyorinmaru makes for a funner game experience. Having a Vanguard be a actual part of the team is really awesome, not to mention his skill animation. Orgasms for days :-P.

In this particular event, if you were to buy 2 event characters, it would cost you around 12k gold. If you wanted those characters anyway, another 5k to get Hyorinmaru is nothing. Not to mention the fact that I ended up getting Hyorinmaru, 2 Characters, the other extra goodies, when all is said and done for like 13k gold after rebates. It is hard to beat that.

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-12 09:06:24

Aristeaus replied at 2015-1-11 18:44
I disagree. While I would have liked to have paid less for Hyorinmaru, it is the best currently av ...

don't know who u r but ur wrong

senbonzakura>Hyonimaru

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-12 09:42:06

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-12 08:06
don't know who u r but ur wrong

senbonzakura>Hyonimaru

he said the currently available zanpakutos ^^ so yes he's right.

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-12 09:58:01

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-12 08:42
he said the currently available zanpakutos ^^ so yes he's right.

nope, he made reference to what CN players use to support his argument.

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-12 10:19:51

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-12 08:58
nope, he made reference to what CN players use to support his argument.

"I disagree. While I would have liked to have paid less for Hyorinmaru, it is the best currently available zanpakuto in the game. " and gave an example. but CN recently got him so dunno if he knows about it yet

author: Uciffer4 time: 2015-1-12 10:20:54

Someone knows the best event to get sogyo?

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-1-12 14:37:18

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-12 08:58
nope, he made reference to what CN players use to support his argument.

That is because the vast majority of VIP CN players do use Hyorinmaru. Even after Senbonzakura was released.

I can reference you some of the stronger players in all of CN if you would like?

I am going to go out on a limb and say that the price on Senbonzakura isn't why he is using Hyorinmaru.

YagamiLi, you have no earthly idea what you are talking about. Do you always go around saying the first idiotic thing that pops into your head?

author: Evild4nte time: 2015-1-12 16:58:21

The stats on this gin are not looking that amazing.

But to the topic, i think it will be possible to get Horinmaru much cheaper than this time.
If u need the crews it will make sense to buy it here maybe, but i am not that sure if its really needed to get 2 of this crews.
Still only lv 100 sets to get by this event, which is a bit stupid.
Maybe Horinmaru will outclass all other Zanpakutos later, but at the moment its not really that useful for the most player. Before u have ur supporters at maxstones, u can always makes them faster by some stones from the assaulters without loosing their speed, coz they become much faster by Zangetsu for example.

What is the agi growth rate at the currently highend supporter ? Sure that they can really outspeed a main with some high progress in the soulmap ? around 5.9 agi growth rate would be possible with the red map.

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-12 17:03:15

Edited by YagamiLi at 2015-1-12 16:08

Aristeaus replied at 2015-1-12 13:37
That is because the vast majority of VIP CN players do use Hyorinmaru. Even after Senbonzakura was ...

both are vanguard oriented zanpaktous, senbonzakura adds a stronger buff both to vg and to assaulters.

offensive vg will kill supports, their bonus stats don't mean much of anything.

if you have to result to name calling you're probably weaker ingame, so i'm not too concerned.

what you say is not set in stone either, what you see with your own eyes is limited to yourself, you're just one small human being.

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-1-12 17:43:46

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-12 16:03
both are vanguard oriented zanpaktous, senbonzakura adds a stronger buff both to vg and to assaulte ...

You came into a thread where I posted a well worded explanation of why Hyorinmaru is the best current Zan in the game. You then said that I was wrong, without providing any context in the slightest, twice.

That is a idiotic thing to do. I never called you a name, and it doesn't shock me that the distinction doesn't register with you. After all, less intelligent people generally don't concern themselves with things like explanations, proof, or knowing the difference between being called a idiot, and saying that a action you took was idiotic.

I left out Senbonzakura because it is brand new to CN. We aren't likely to get access to it for several months. I was using CN as a example of how Hyorinmaru is not only the best current Zanpakuto, but will be in contention for that title for some time... even after Muramasa arrives. While Seonbonzakura is amazing, it provides no support anything, so short of having access to T1 no-support fury, that attack power won't mean as much as you think it will.

It is likely that when we do receive Senbonzakura, it gets nerfed or costs a extreme amount(He is like 40kG in CN). When discussing a metagame something that only .1% of the population will have access to should not be considered. If Demon Ichigo comes and costs 5,000$ here, should you be overly concerned with how your team competes against him? Not really.

Finally, You didn't even know what Senbonzakura did 7 days ago. Hell, you thought Indonesian servers had access to him, when they are basically only 1 day ahead of us. While I am only one person and my words are not set in stone, they are very clearly rooted in more accurate knowledge of this game then yours.

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