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author: Influentik time: 2015-1-14 17:15:16 Title: UBP Strategy.

Edited by Influentik at 2015-1-14 16:21

Ok, lets get this started then shall we. If any of my calculations or assumptions are off, please tell me so I can edit this post.

Alright then, lets do some nooby maths and hope to hell i get it right so I don;t look like a total idiot.
For UBP the main prize generally varies between about 30k-42k right? So.. How much vit would you need to save up between each event?
From what i have seen, i do 20 auto battles at a time and check the frequency at which ice crystals come up. Here is a decent estimate of the probability
3- 47% (45-49)
4-28%  (26-30)                  May all be off by roughly 4% for 1/2 and 2% for 3/4
5-16%  (15-17)
6-9% (8-10)

Moving on to the next segment. Vit Stacking.
Stacking vitality before the UBP event can be annoying, not to mention resisiting the urge to just blow it all to gain a level or stones needed to forge equipement, challenge bosses for pills/talissmans/silver cards But, If there is a UBP event every month for example.
Buying vit 2 times a day is 60x30 = 1800.

Girlfriend daily (based on ... Miri) 7x6= 42 / 42x30= 1260
Girlfriend for vit 5x daily = 50 (and every 3 days an extra 5, so. Based on a 30 day month [ 30/3 = 10x5 = 50]) so 50x30 =1500 and 50x10 = 500. So 500+1500 = 2000.
So far, we already have 5060. And that is excluding the 20 vit we get 2 times a day from seireitei resturant, SO! 20+20= 40, 40x30 = 1200
Now what we already had ( 5060 ) + the extra 1200 gives us a total of 6260!
Now considering UBP usually only comes every 45 days to 2 months. We could make this 150% or 200% (seems this was based on a 30 day premis) so we could accumulate up to. 9390 -12520!
If you do trial towers daily (again based on a 30 day time period ) that would be 9x5 = 45 x30 =1350.  So take that 1350 away from the 6260 and that leaves us with 4910.
Now, based on my earlier calculations on the ods of crystal amounts per auto battle. 4910 would give you 19149. So its safe to say 15-24k
Over and above that, the event is 10 days long! So now, you can divide the 30 day total of 6260 by 3 to get 2080 < Rounded down. Which would give you roughly another 6-10k crystals. Leaving you with a total of about 21-34k But wait! If you have used your vit you will start getting 3 vit every half hour again. so.. 6x24 or 3x48 which is 144, over the next 10 days of the event so x10. is 1440
This gives you roughly another 4200-8000 crystals.
Now over 30 days + 10 days event time. it is possible to accumulate 25-42k crystals. But, given the 1 and a half-2 month probability. That can double to 50k-84k over just 2 months! If the ONLY thing you do is trial tower. This means. You would have to spend maximum 85% of your vit after 2 months to get any event zanpak/partner. With 25% remaining for the next UBP event.

Alright guys not to worry I'm done now. Just thought I would help people who dont think stacking vit is a good idea, to reconsider, because I bet that one of these days there will be something in a UBP event that you want more than ANYTHING. And, you will be kicking yourself for not saving bit.
Hope this helped everyone

Edit: Something was in the wrong place lol.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-14 17:46:49

i suggest u remove this crap, lol if the GM ever decided to read they increase the reqiurement making this fruitless, LOL

author: 595459354 time: 2015-1-14 17:47:59

My crystal/vit ratio (3.7) is lower than the one you used (3.9), it might be better to play safe and take a lower ratio in consideration ;)

Seems a good post for people who don't bother to do math ^^

author: KrisKingOfLegend time: 2015-1-14 17:52:51

[email protected] replied at 2015-1-14 16:46
i suggest u remove this crap, lol if the GM ever decided to read they increase the reqiurement makin ...

You are too late hahahahahahahaha

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-14 17:59:49

Embrace yourself next UBP gonna be 75k cryst

the problem i won't be even surprized if that really happend,

Anyway good post, i used a ratio of 3.6 per vits spent, if you start the first day around 10k you already have your partner/zanpaktu first day around 35k crysts, if it's like ishin and his 43k if i remember, you'll have enough time to farm the rest during the 9 days left.

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-14 18:18:12

LOL thanks for being a good person but that kind of kindness can bite you in the Ass xD

author: CosmicEmperor time: 2015-1-14 19:04:51

Omg this post is so good, I always use vit but after seeing this i will start to save hardcore xD

author: Influentik time: 2015-1-14 20:06:53

@BurakCinar

LOL thanks for being a good person but that kind of kindness can bite you in the Ass xD

I mainly just did this due to unremitting boredom...

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-1-14 20:22:22

You lose 4320 stamina per month doing this. That is 8640 stamina completely wasted on the 2 month schedule.

Getting Zan's and Partners for free is awesome. But so is nearly 10k stamina in trials/auto battles. Even if you got .001% of a level per auto battle, that is 8.6 levels you miss out on over that course of time, which opens up better gear, trials, etc. I would argue that without knowing which UBP is being released ahead of time, you would be stronger and overall better off by NOT saving.

author: KrisKingOfLegend time: 2015-1-14 20:25:44

Aristeaus replied at 2015-1-14 19:22
You lose 4320 stamina per month doing this. That is 8640 stamina completely wasted on the 2 month sc ...

I wasted over 15 levels saving 2 months of VIT for Isshin but i think it was worth it, but it would be ore worth it if he was NOT [offensive word redacted] NERFED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-14 20:42:52

Aristeaus replied at 2015-1-14 19:22
You lose 4320 stamina per month doing this. That is 8640 stamina completely wasted on the 2 month sc ...

i dont think so really my acc saved vit since like 2 months ago and is lv111 Ryoka still is the main source of exp and trials arent important at this point so i cant see why saving vit is bad at the end you can get stuff that cost around $500 USD free

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-14 20:46:25

Edited by nieverland at 2015-1-14 21:20

KrisKingOfLegend replied at 2015-1-14 19:25
I wasted over 15 levels saving 2 months of VIT for Isshin but i think it was worth it, but it woul ...

well that Isshin worth your 42k vit, if they used the real Isshin must be close to the 100k cristals prob more, that char is really OP

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-15 02:55:18

[email protected] replied at 2015-1-14 16:46
i suggest u remove this crap, lol if the GM ever decided to read they increase the reqiurement makin ...

LOL... they alrd know since ages ago tht ppl can stack vit n get it for FREE... n they dun even care much

about those ppl doin tht...

so wats the worry ? of coz they will try to price it at a range where cash spenders can buy it...

n not tht easy for f2p VIT stacker to get it...

n not many ppl stack vit... coz u got to scarifice this n tht to stack some vit...

author: Influentik time: 2015-1-15 03:57:45

@Aristeaus

You lose 4320 stamina per month doing this. That is 8640 stamina completely wasted on the 2 month schedule...

I have to say I disagree with you, and your maths is slightly off. Actually.. very off. But that is besides the point.
The general consensus seems to be saving vit is a good idea. Besides.. You don't LOSE that vit ROFL You GAIN those levels and experience/stones etc during UBP events when you USE that vit

Your logic is flawed dude. How can it be a waste if you end up using it anyway? + getting the extra rewards from UBP? If anything, It's a smart investment lol.
OR am I wrong.. Wish @watman was here lol.

author: Influentik time: 2015-1-15 13:39:52

i dont think so really my acc saved vit since like 2 months ago and is lv111 Ryoka still is the main source of exp and trials arent important at this point so i cant see why saving vit is bad at the end you can get stuff that cost around $500 USD free

Yay you get it lol. But, I am only level 96, this servers been open about 4 months. Iv'e only stacked this much vit so far http://prntscr.com/5suqzg
Mainly because i wasted 470 getting to lv 95 after the previous UBP. To me, trial towers are still important lol. Hogu are pretty good, maybe at your level you don't rely on them as much.
Off topic, i still cant beat the challenge before Barragan, the dodge rate on that freaking thing is insane, besides eagle eye raider title, can anyone give any other suggestions on how to beat him?

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-15 13:50:56

Influentik replied at 2015-1-15 12:39
Yay you get it lol. But, I am only level 96, this servers been open about 4 months. Iv'e only stac ...

use a kenpachi and get rid of the tosen

author: zExTrA time: 2015-1-15 14:14:55

Influentik replied at 2015-1-15 02:57
@Aristeaus

I have to say I disagree with you, and your maths is slightly off. Actually.. very off. ...

After a certain amount of Vit you don't get the 3 Vit every 30 min/ 6 Vit every hour anymore, so you lose out on 6x24x30=4320 Vit for one month.
But I would say it's still worth to save Vit, though I'm nowhere near high enough be completely sure ^^.

author: CosmicEmperor time: 2015-1-16 15:52:06

Still. saving vit is definitely worth it. The partners and zanpaks are crazy.

author: Influentik time: 2015-1-16 17:32:28

Yeah cosmic

author: mario21xD time: 2015-1-17 09:26:01

what is the limit of vitality that i can save?

author: watman time: 2015-1-17 09:45:05

mario21xD replied at 2015-1-17 08:26
what is the limit of vitality that i can save?

There is no cap.
Once you've reached your soft cap of:
soft-cap / max

You stop gaining 3 vit per half hour

So when people are calculating your total net vit:
You have to include this calculation into saving VIT

+3 vit per half hour
24 hours in a day

24 * 2 = 48 times you gain 3 vit

48 * 3 = 144 vit per day you miss out on auto-regeneration

144 * 30 = 4,320 Vit you Lose per month.

That's -4,320 Vit you could've used for leveling, hogus, etc a month
But 4,320 Vit is peanuts compared to how much you get from UBP.
You get a couple level 3 stones, and one hell of a partner/zanpaktou for free in exchange for experience

Think of it as investing ~8,600 Vit for ~$500 value in 2 months time.

author: Xindio time: 2015-1-17 10:35:44

Aristeaus replied at 2015-1-14 19:22
You lose 4320 stamina per month doing this. That is 8640 stamina completely wasted on the 2 month sc ...

lol you guys are fools i don't even go up 2 lvls by using my vitality XD simply i go to stages from lvl1 -10 and do auto there XD so i don't miss anything

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-17 12:22:30

Xindio replied at 2015-1-17 09:35
lol you guys are fools i don't even go up 2 lvls by using my vitality XD simply i go to stages fro ...

sorry, but English understanding isnt enought to get this

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-17 12:26:01

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-15 01:55
LOL... they alrd know since ages ago tht ppl can stack vit n get it for FREE... n they dun even ...

to be honest UBP its been out off CN servs more than 3 months so prob they dont gonna use that event again, maybe because a lot of ppl got chars/zampakutos free?? and remember gogames is a lot worst so can happen

author: KelisTormoris time: 2015-1-17 14:15:52

Xindio replied at 2015-1-17 09:35
lol you guys are fools i don't even go up 2 lvls by using my vitality XD simply i go to stages fro ...

no you are the fool.
You get 100% chance of crystal no matter where you auto on... it just that the auto-battle box isnt big enough to show 2 items side by side as it attempts to thus you think you not getting it when you get a crafting stone.

So maybe you should figure how things work before you call others fools and make yourself look completely stupid

author: Influentik time: 2015-1-17 15:12:16

what is the limit of vitality that i can save?

@mario21xD
There is no limit, Heck, i bet you could even get up to 100000.

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-17 19:29:30

nieverland replied at 2015-1-17 11:26
to be honest UBP its been out off CN servs more than 3 months so prob they dont gonna use that eve ...

hics...

hopefully they ll release somemore UBP...

n good stuffs...

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-17 19:39:45

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-17 18:29
hics...

hopefully they ll release somemore UBP...

mhm. i'd be done with this game if they remove that....

like the servers in china are all dead...... maybe cuz they removed only hope for f2p xD

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-1-17 19:40:11

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-17 18:40
lol... i ll be done when all the frenz i know leave the game... or when there is no more fun anym ...

a hooker whispered in ma ear you topping up vip 10 for me...
been 3 days now and no difference...!!

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-17 19:40:32

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-17 18:39
mhm. i'd be done with this game if they remove that....

like the servers in china are all dead... ...

lol... i ll be done when all the frenz i know leave the game... or when there is no more fun anymore...

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-17 19:59:44

Edited by nieverland at 2015-1-17 19:05

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-17 18:29
hics...

hopefully they ll release somemore UBP...

yeh same, thats why i dissagree with that UBP guides of how to get the main prize free , because once gogames realize only ppl get that stuff free and none pay for the prizes UBP can dissapear

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-17 20:35:53

Edited by PAOFUI at 2015-1-17 19:38

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-17 18:40
a hooker whispered in ma ear you topping up vip 10 for me...
been 3 days now and no difference...! ...

ROFL... u must been drunk...

i am not even Vip 10... so how can i charge Vip 10 for u ?

Niev. Well gogames do know about stackin vit ... if they would wanna take down UBP they alwiz can... at anytime... but as u know... stackin vit
isnt easy... so i guess they dun realli care if ppl do stack vit... bcoz those ppl who spends... will still spend on UBP partners...

author: donnytran time: 2015-1-18 16:31:27

Well, UBP is not every 30 days. Last one with zangetsu was 16or14 days after UBP with ishin

author: Influentik time: 2015-1-20 08:28:57

I never said It was 30 days lol. I clearly said that was just a rough guide. and you can't say that. UBP events seem to be fkn random lol. Just like this game in general. And please, stop worrying, not like the freaking devs even read the godamn forums, they barely give us any player support at all, let alone care about what we think rofl.

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