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author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-15 13:20:13     Title: Grimmjow Stats?

Edited by HalfW1ng at 2015-1-16 00:48

EDIT : I would kindly request people to post as to why they picked each option , so that we can have a discussion going. Also if you personally own a Grimmjow or any of the HMA members please post ur data here so that we can critique and analyse it.


Hi ,

Just wanted to make a poll regarding the new Partner from Heuco Mundo Attack , So i have been seeing reports of Grimmjow having lesser stats and doing less damage than normal purple Renji. Based on his stats alone that would impossible.

Grimms base stats when compared to Renji is as follows

Grimm                                     Renji
Str : 150                              Str : 80
Agility : 120                         Agility : 50
Wisdom : 120                     Wisdom : 50
HP : 350                             HP : 120

[attach]4041[/attach]                                [attach]4043[/attach]


As you can see the stats are worlds apart,  Abilities and skill aside, no way renji should be doing nearly as much damage with a basic attack. But i have heard reports of grimm doing even lesser even in this regard.
So i was curious and did a little digging and found this.

                  [attach]4051[/attach]                                         [attach]4050[/attach]


This is My renji when compared to a similar Grimmjow of another player. Both of us have similar stones lv 6 but his attack is nearly 4k lesser than mine.
Also he is having better gear with some decent infusions , I would like to have some feedback from you players regarding this.  I am also worried that this might affect not only grimm but all the HMA partners.

So that kenpachi that you are saving so fervently for? he might be weaker than Koma.

A joke? better believe it.
author: FireflySerenity    time: 2015-1-15 16:50:46

Personally I think Grim looks better on paper but you get him at level 1 (same as all event partners I believe). I cannot see any growth points in Hueco Mondo.

Kenpachi and Ikkaku stats are the same but their growth points differ slightly. After enough levels pass Kenpachi will out do Ikkaku.

So I believe this to be a bug or ah oh...yeah our bad...whoops
author: onkas07    time: 2015-1-15 16:51:24

Accessories? Hollow soul map? Hogyoku? Hogu? It all can change everything.
author: gr8nesh18    time: 2015-1-15 16:57:36

lol u need upgrade it 1st
author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-15 17:04:02

onkas07 replied at 2015-1-15 15:51
Accessories? Hollow soul map? Hogyoku? Hogu? It all can change everything.

Ill post a detailed snap shot of everything soon , also another bug is that grimm is supposed to be A+ but his image reflects "S" rank.

author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-15 17:08:15

gr8nesh18 replied at 2015-1-15 15:57
lol u need upgrade it 1st

Dude i am comparing 2 purple members , if i upgrade him i will have to compare him to ikkaku who has 50k attack .... yeah ill laugh.
author: onkas07    time: 2015-1-15 17:32:46

HalfW1ng replied at 2015-1-15 16:04
Ill post a detailed snap shot of everything soon , also another bug is that grimm is supposed to b ...

Shin Zabimaru Renji is A but when i recruit him i noticed he is A+. I think it's a bug too. But you cannot know what hollow soul stats he has.
author: Ragnet    time: 2015-1-15 19:20:40

it may be that the strength talent renji has is boosting his atk stat. However grimmjows talent boosting damage rate will mean that he will out damage renji with no trouble at all.
author: TicklemyTit    time: 2015-1-15 19:26:29

This is probably complete bull
There are many other factors than what we can just see here from the two pictures
there could be different hogyoku, hollow souls, treasures and of course it's right there, renji's mod for extra % attack, the infuse and stats could be completely different, accessories too
author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-16 01:47:09

TicklemyTit replied at 2015-1-15 18:26
This is probably complete bull
There are many other factors than what we can just see here from the  ...

I am currently at work , i will post a screenshot of each of the things u have mentioned.

Also his hogokyu was pretty decent last time i checked.  Only thing that you cant check is his hollow soul which if he has any sense he would transfer it over when doing dalies.

And i dont like the direction this thread is going this is majorly meant as a feedback post so that you guys can share ur experiences with grimmjow and the rest of the characters, If u believe they are worth it post with data to back it up , i personally think its bugged and i have proof which i will try to complete when i get back.

author: nieverland    time: 2015-1-16 02:51:34

HalfW1ng replied at 2015-1-16 00:47
I am currently at work , i will post a screenshot of each of the things u have mentioned.

Also hi ...

Bro you cant compare your chars with other guy char, are some stuff that never match reiatsu lv/rank/title/hollow map/talent + the base stats renji stats are based at lv40 i guess and Grimmjow are lv60 thats the lv they start, so please guys if you cant do an fair comparation dont do that i guess you do because you wanna help or answer some doubts but this way dont help at all, i just left this game 2 days ago but a friend play my acc atm, so if i can and if him have all the stuff ready i gonna make an comparation with Pantera Grimmjow and Ken-chan all gonna be the same exept Ken-chan with 4/5 mods (all the usefull btw) and Grimmy w/o mods and maybe low lv because i guess Ken-chan is lv110-111 atm and dunno if he have enought silver/exp scrolls atm to go that far
author: nieverland    time: 2015-1-16 02:55:45

onkas07 replied at 2015-1-15 16:32
Shin Zabimaru Renji is A but when i recruit him i noticed he is A+. I think it's a bug too. But yo ...

its a visual bug they show his high rank even w/o the upgrade but just that the growth stats still are the same
author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-16 07:49:51

nieverland replied at 2015-1-16 01:51
Bro you cant compare your chars with other guy char, are some stuff that never match reiatsu lv/ran ...

Dont worry i am about to get grimmjow in 3 - 5 days if you guys arent satisfied with this info.

Ill be posting mine personally , i am already in too deep at this point to turn back but if u want a "Fair" comparision i will give you one. You cant complain if im using my own grimmjow right? Ill try to do them without armour and equips for ur satisfaction, i am almost certain renji does more damage at this point.
author: Xcution12    time: 2015-1-16 08:20:15

HalfW1ng replied at 2015-1-16 07:49
Dont worry i am about to get grimmjow in 3 - 5 days if you guys arent satisfied with this info.

Il ...

u get 1 grimmjow frag for the stages u get the frags from
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-1-16 09:24:54

Its a bug...but then again you get renji at lv 30 and grimmjow at lv 1...so the stats are relevant to how you build them up and with what items and such...
author: UnKnOwNHoLlOw    time: 2015-1-16 09:34:25     Title: RE: Grimmjow Stats?

[email protected] replied at 2015-1-16 08:24
Its a bug...but then again you get renji at lv 30 and grimmjow at lv 1...so the stats are relevant t ...

Dude renji is lvl 50 and grimmjaw starts from lvl 60 after recruited from SWP
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-1-16 09:59:56

why does everyone keep talking about recruit level ...

renji has +strength talent (increases atk on paper)

grimmjow has damage rate talent (increases in combat damage rate)

when i used him my grimmjow has a 151% damage rate my other partners have 125% -130%
author: YagamiLi    time: 2015-1-16 10:22:42

HalfW1ng replied at 2015-1-16 06:49
Dont worry i am about to get grimmjow in 3 - 5 days if you guys arent satisfied with this info.

Il ...

things to point out here

Hogyoku/Hollow soul map/

the fact that renji has the first star modded +5% attack

Renji's STR increase talent

The grimmjow has dmg rate and combo talent, no STR boost so no extra attack there

No mod on it so it doesn't have it's extra attack either

what's not to get?
author: nieverland    time: 2015-1-16 12:02:14

Edited by nieverland at 2015-1-16 13:28
HalfW1ng replied at 2015-1-16 06:49
Dont worry i am about to get grimmjow in 3 - 5 days if you guys arent satisfied with this info.

Il ...

i dont care about normal Grimmjow i only care about pantera like most of us do here in forum, because we can handle 1 shoot Ryoka till wave 50 easy and use better tavern chars than normal Grimmjow, btw youre really wrong about the stats Renji start as lv40 Grimmjow as lv60 the talents are diferent Renji talent up the stats, Grimmjow talent increase the dmg
author: TicklemyTit    time: 2015-1-16 15:23:33

The growth stats for grimmjow are as follows 2.8 str, 2.2 wis, 2.4 agi, 2.7 sta
renji has far below that, all except for 1 in str which is 2.1
if both are the same level, it comes down to all the factors that everybody has previously mention including myself
grimmjow definitely does have better base stats, but it doesn't matter with all the equips and those factors. The usefulness of the grimmjow comes down to those who use him and equip him well
author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-16 17:50:16

TicklemyTit replied at 2015-1-16 14:23
The growth stats for grimmjow are as follows 2.8 str, 2.2 wis, 2.4 agi, 2.7 sta
renji has far below  ...

Like i mentioned previously , there is some gross error in his stats , if those really are the growth stats grimm should be beating ikkaku in raw stats alone forget Renji.

I will be getting grimmin a few days and recomparing everything , only benefit renji will have is his +1 mod . I will be doing it without any equips etc , cause currently the 2 players who have grimm are not happy with him in general and he is a general downgrade to even renji.

author: TicklemyTit    time: 2015-1-16 18:46:44

Edited by TicklemyTit at 2015-1-16 20:02
HalfW1ng replied at 2015-1-16 16:50
Like i mentioned previously , there is some gross error in his stats , if those really are the gro ...

actually no, ikkaku's growth rate  is much better and his base stats are about the same, you can find out whatever one is better once you get your own grimmjow because you can control all of those extra factors that you can't see or find

grimmjow is the best in pve, pvp he is a vanguard killer and while there are strategies like you, unless you're going for it you probably won't be happy with him in pvp

after I replaced my renji with a lower lvl grimmjow my damage in ryoka and es were increased by a ton. Grimmjow has that 15% damage rate naturally and it does apply to skills so he does very good damage even if he is lacking in stats.

In this thread's case, I would take grimmjow any day over renji. The damage rate is amazing and his fury every turn puts renji to shame. Renji isn't even allowed in the same room as grimmjow because he's so unworthy of being in the presence of grimmjow
author: YagamiLi    time: 2015-1-16 20:22:01

TicklemyTit replied at 2015-1-16 17:46
actually no, ikkaku's growth rate  is much better and his base stats are about the same, you can f ...

This post has been Rated PG-13, parental guidance is advised, and minor therapy sessions afterward if needed.
author: TicklemyTit    time: 2015-1-16 21:00:58

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-16 19:22
This post has been Rated PG-13, parental guidance is advised, and minor therapy sessions afterward ...

lol, I could probably tone it down a bit
but I believe it gets my point across
author: nieverland    time: 2015-1-16 21:54:37

TicklemyTit replied at 2015-1-16 20:00
lol, I could probably tone it down a bit
but I believe it gets my point across

boooooooo you change the pineapple part
author: TicklemyTit    time: 2015-1-16 23:00:26

nieverland replied at 2015-1-16 20:54
boooooooo you change the pineapple part

yeah, I was told I could adversely effect the minds of youth if they were to see the post I made in it original glory. So I changed it so as to not be blamed for their future misconduct
author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-17 01:39:33

Edited by HalfW1ng at 2015-1-17 00:40
TicklemyTit replied at 2015-1-16 17:46
actually no, ikkaku's growth rate  is much better and his base stats are about the same, you can fi ...

"Ikkakus growth rate is much better"  : 3 to Grimms 2.8  ( Are you joking me? )

"Base Stats are about the same" 120 to grimms 150 ( yeah only a 20% odd increase in stats )

Lol dude i dont want to diss you further but you cannot argue with stats , and you seem to imply that you have a grimmjow , which i believe you dont.

If you owned one you would know that he is no replacement for Renji or anyone for that matter.

I want you to post your grimmjow with pics compared to your renji if you do have one. Will be interesting to watch.
author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-17 01:49:45

TicklemyTit replied at 2015-1-16 22:00
yeah, I was told I could adversely effect the minds of youth if they were to see the post I made i ...

The only adversely affected mind seems to be yours.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-17 03:36:48


ermmm which renji r u guys comparin wit ?

i so called hav the upgraded grim... he does more dmg... but i paired him wit Ikka... n sub Kenpachi out...

as for tavern renji... he was so long in the fridge tht never realli upgraded him...

as far as i can see... yeah grim is good for PVE ES... for PVP... i think addin him in the formation for a lil stronger...

coz the id is actually climbin in ranks... from a top 20... now hangin out in the top 10 chilling...

author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-17 09:00:50

Edited by HalfW1ng at 2015-1-17 08:11
PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-17 02:36
ermmm which renji r u guys comparin wit ?

i so called hav the upgraded grim... he does more dmg.. ...

Edit : We are comparing him with the purple tavern renji u get when u start out.
Thanks for replying , could u say compare the stats on renji and grimmjow using the same equipment ( barring the weapon ) and seeing how the stats stack up?

I am worried grimm is not worth the investment if he is weaker than renji in attack power.

Thanks again.


author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-17 09:16:18

HalfW1ng replied at 2015-1-17 08:00
Edit : We are comparing him with the purple tavern renji u get when u start out.
Thanks for replyin ...



LOL... its hard to compare him wit the Tavern Renji... bcoz... the grim is upgraded... n hav higher lvl

than the Tavern Renji ...

even the purple Grim i think its better than Tavern Renji... nobody uses Tavern Renji when they get

on higher lvl... they ll normally sub him out wit Kenpachi...

n when u get grim at first... yeah he is purple... but u can upgrade him later... which he ll b much

better too...
author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-17 09:19:17

Edited by HalfW1ng at 2015-1-17 08:20
PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-17 08:16
LOL... its hard to compare him wit the Tavern Renji... bcoz... the grim is upgraded... n hav hig ...

Erm yeah thats the thing , renji is weak , grimm looks to be as weak or weaker.

Ok then since u seem to be subbing him for kenpachi it means hes doing more damage than ken? or am i reading things wrong.

If u could do a comparison between the 2 then it will clear things up.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-17 09:28:53

HalfW1ng replied at 2015-1-17 08:19
Erm yeah thats the thing , renji is weak , grimm looks to be as weak or weaker.

Ok then since u se ...


as i said... how can i compare them... when both their lvls n mods arent the same...

n yeah... i sub kenpachi out for grim... even when grim is being purple...

n now... after upgraded grim into pantera... he is even much better n does more dmg...

thts all i can tell from exp... n watchin the dmg he does in ES...

n of coz if i put back renji into the formation... he ll suck big time...

n also from wat i know... all partners from event r better than tavern partners... well thts wat i heard...

rite now... for PVE ES ... its Main... Ikka... Pantera Grim ... Kisuke ... Rukia...

which do way higher dmg than Ikka n Kenpachi which i use to run...
author: shadower    time: 2015-1-17 09:39:21

renji get increase in str while grimjaw get 15% dmg thats why grimjaw have less str
author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-17 09:43:09

Edited by HalfW1ng at 2015-1-17 09:01
PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-17 08:28
as i said... how can i compare them... when both their lvls n mods arent the same...

n yeah...  ...

ah ok ur using the gold grimmjow? thanks for clarifying.

We cant compare then , thanks for replying.
Edit : It seems that with the upgraded version the bug is fixed cause he does more damage than kenpachi? Sound promising atleast his upgrade is usable.

author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-17 09:44:46

Edited by HalfW1ng at 2015-1-17 08:48
shadower replied at 2015-1-17 08:39
renji get increase in str while grimjaw get 15% dmg thats why grimjaw have less str

erm yeah but renjis growth and strength are nowhere near grimms , even with the 15% he should not do more damage.  I have had reports of ppl doing more damage with renji than with grimm.

You can say that this is a grimm situation , ha ha get it?..... ( ill show myself the door now )
author: theguyinblack    time: 2015-1-17 10:21:57

maybe it's because of ur gear set, u r using 3 peaces of lv90 set & 3 peaces of lv80 set on Grimm, he didn't get the Stra bonus like Renji at the other pic...
author: nieverland    time: 2015-1-17 12:13:30

HalfW1ng replied at 2015-1-17 08:43
ah ok ur using the gold grimmjow? thanks for clarifying.

We cant compare then , thanks for replyin ...

isnt a bug bro you still try to say its a bug and no, all the time Grimmy gonna have low att sure because he doesnt have the same kind of talent as Ikkaku, Renji, Ken-chan, or Uryu and he is pve oriented like all of them but his talent is a lot better is pure dmg, dont increase his str but do a lot more dmg he is a lot better at ES and Ryoka, like i said you barely gonna find someone that still use Renji he is useless for us, PAO even said one time that he still prefer purple Grimmy over Ken-chan that is a lot better than Renji, of course 15% dmg do more dmg than Renji with same stuff but you keep doing "SOMEONE TOLD ME, IVE HAD REPORTS" sorry bro but the worst blind is the one that dont wanna see
author: TicklemyTit    time: 2015-1-17 12:45:21

HalfW1ng replied at 2015-1-17 00:39
"Ikkakus growth rate is much better"  : 3 to Grimms 2.8  ( Are you joking me? )

"Base Stats are ab ...

Do you understand that when saying "stats" that implies more than one? as far as i'm concerned about the base str stat for ikkaku, his growth rate is better so it doesn't really matter with only a 30 difference

"which i believe you dont" lol, it's not hard to get grimmjow, like a week at most
As for renji, I dumped his lame ass for grimmjow because with grimmjow I saw a giant increase in damage during events, so in a long battle, of course grimmjow does more damage than renji, renji only does a little bit more in 2 turns, if you evaluate the worth of a crew just based on the first two rounds, you must either be A. high lvl vip and can destroy the enemy team in those rounds or B. stupid
author: TicklemyTit    time: 2015-1-17 13:09:48

nieverland replied at 2015-1-17 11:13
isnt a bug bro you still try to say its a bug and no, all the time Grimmy gonna have low att sure b ...

ty, I completely forgot about renji's talent
author: donnytran    time: 2015-1-17 14:35:12

maaaan renji have a first mod which gives an attack and also u dont know hollow soul
author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-17 15:44:57

theguyinblack replied at 2015-1-17 09:21
maybe it's because of ur gear set, u r using 3 peaces of lv90 set & 3 peaces of lv80 set on Grimm, h ...

lol dude my renji is on lv 70 gear...
author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-17 15:47:11

Edited by HalfW1ng at 2015-1-17 14:48
donnytran replied at 2015-1-17 13:35
maaaan renji have a first mod which gives an attack and also u dont know hollow soul

u guys are seriously blind to the damn issue 1st mod is 5% attack, yeah its not going to raise my attack by 4k.

Also when i took the pic he was doing ryoka , meaning he exchanged gear , meaning hollow souls were also exchanged.
Edit : The funny thing is hes stopped using grimmjow after i posted this thread , i dont know if he reads the forums or hes realised that grimm atleast his first form is a piece of crap.
author: nieverland    time: 2015-1-17 17:38:33

Edited by nieverland at 2015-1-17 16:45

Well im bit upset because you only wanna see what you want so make some things clear with facts, ofc your Renji gonna have more att due to his mod+TALENT that i do some calculations and is increase str by a certain % wich is 15%

lets go to the facts we have a lv84 Lisa with 2.2str growth rate and talent of 15% more str and a lv84 Grimmy with grow rate 2.8str but w/o any talent that increase his str so his att is raw
[attach]4104[/attach][attach]4103[/attach]

So even  with low grow rate Lisa still have almost the same att due to her talent and Grimmy is close to her due to his high grow rate (both chars/stats are raw dont have something in)

So we gonna give to Grimmy an str accesorie that give 800str, and well just as planed the acc give 800att because his talent dont increase str, so we end with an Grimmy with 6184att+800att from the acc= 6984att

[attach]4107[/attach][attach]4108[/attach]

Then Lisa is next, we gonna give her the same acc +800 str but ohhh surprice this time give her +920 att= 120att more, then we gonna do some simple maths 120 of the extra att between 8 that is 1% of the 800att original
So 120/8= 15
Then Lisa talent gives +15% str, btw its the same talent Renji have, then we end with an Lisa with 6156att+800att from the acc+120att from her talent=7076att


[attach]4105[/attach][attach]4106[/attach]

Then we apply that to your nosense thread and weird comparation, ofc dont gonna be exact because we dont have all the facts we still need hogu/2 lvs more/infusions lv/gear/stones/hollow soul but you say thats a good comparation so lets go, we have a Grimmy lv85 w/o mods with 30671att and a lv87 Renji with 1 mod +5%att +15%str of his talent with 34809att

[attach]4109[/attach][attach]4110[/attach]

So we have an Grimmy with 30671att+6134.2(15%talent+5%mod=+20%)=we end with 36805.2att if Grimmy had the same mod and talent as Renji

So yeh you were right we are seriously blind to see the issue that the mod and talent cant rise the att 4K, we are so naive ,we most know that gonna be 6K






author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-17 17:51:58

Edited by HalfW1ng at 2015-1-17 17:00
nieverland replied at 2015-1-17 16:38
Well im bit upset because you only wanna see what you want so make some things clear with facts, ofc ...

No you are not seeing the issue , Grimm does not have a 15% talent increase in str its his damage , so in theory he does have  36805.2 attack only its not shown.

The real issue here is if hes actually doing more damage , so renji has 34k attack and his skill is a 200% boost but not every turn , whereas grimm is 170%? and everyturn , but renji benefits from rukia and kiskue wherease grimm it does not matter if they are there or not.

If the actual damage values in the end is lower for grimm then he is still a failure.

I dont know how to calculate it if u could help me with the math would be nice.
Edit : Thankyou very much for the comparision with lisa appreciate it , i wanted people to share info like that to get to the bottom of this.
author: nieverland    time: 2015-1-17 18:21:59

Edited by nieverland at 2015-1-17 17:30
HalfW1ng replied at 2015-1-17 16:51
No you are not seeing the issue , Grimm does not have a 15% talent increase in str its his damage , ...

Well even with Renji talent Grimmy have high grow rate that make the att cant have a lot of diference between them, i cant calculate the dmg rate atm because i need to do that with 2 chars with same stats but diferent dmg rate and i dont have that atm (i dont even play this game atm to be honest ) but thats pure dmg output, that need to be tested in ES and Ryoka, that is were that chars are made for IMO

lets made some simple calculations w/o crits, buffs or help just the chars alone in ES, 10 turns to make the best dmg you can.

Dmg by turns:

Renji: 100%, 200%, 100%, 100%, 200%, 100%, 100%, 200%, 100%, 100%= 1300%dmg based on att

Grimmy: 100%, 170%, 170%, 170%, 170%, 170%, 170%, 170%, 170%, 170%=1630%dmg based on att

So in the paper Grimmy dmg is better than Renji, + the att is easy to up but the dmg rate is dificult to up only Rank and high lv Gears increase dmg rate and 15% is a lot to be honest, + if some char activate combo(extra turn) on Grimmy he gonna do allways skill, and also Kisuke and Rukia increase Grimmy dmg: more fury = more dmg, at Ryoka late waves he gonna keep doing skill over and over as long vg survive, thats why Grimmy is a best choice than Renji and really close to Ken-chan IMO but i gonna do some tests maybe the next weekend to prove that
Btw i know Grimmy talent doesnt increase str is only to state as i said that the diference in att is only due to the mod+talent, and gonna be like that vs Ken-chan/Uryu/Ikkaku because they have that kind of talent so Grimmy att gonna be lower all the time with same stuff and prob the turns we have in ES are 9 but still is better Grimmy but as i said im on vacations of gogames game........... not forum
author: YagamiLi    time: 2015-1-17 20:52:29

Edited by YagamiLi at 2015-1-17 19:56
nieverland replied at 2015-1-17 17:21
Well even with Renji talent Grimmy have high grow rate that make the att cant have a lot of diferen ...

im replacing ikkaku with panterra, i get extra rounds cuz of isshin.. sooooooooooo

if theres a mega diff ill post it :3
200x5 2000% growth >

cuz i get turn 1 fury too

moe moe moe kyun <3
author: nieverland    time: 2015-1-17 22:03:51

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-17 19:52
im replacing ikkaku with panterra, i get extra rounds cuz of isshin.. sooooooooooo

if theres a meg ...

ofc gonna be, are you using Grimmy now or waiting till upgrade?? my friend is doing nice with my acc actualy, just told me he got 1st place today and 2 days ago at Ryoka, with 90mill told me?? 900mill i guess but yeh , anyway gz bro but as i said i only play here at forum now, gl with that Grimmy
author: TicklemyTit    time: 2015-1-17 22:57:32

nieverland replied at 2015-1-17 17:21
Well even with Renji talent Grimmy have high grow rate that make the att cant have a lot of diferen ...

remember that extra fury will give extra damage for the skill, so if we're saying that renji gets his 60 fury from rukia and kisuke and will attack once he will do a tiny bit more damage than 200%
but on the other hand with grimmjow he'll have 160 fury or more, so he'll do way more than 170% every turn because he will constantly have an extra 60 fury
author: TicklemyTit    time: 2015-1-17 23:44:46

nieverland replied at 2015-1-17 22:46
i wrote something like that bro, is in the more fury = more dmg part

sorry then, when there's a lot to read i just skim over a lot
author: nieverland    time: 2015-1-17 23:46:41

TicklemyTit replied at 2015-1-17 21:57
remember that extra fury will give extra damage for the skill, so if we're saying that renji gets  ...

i wrote something like that bro, is in the more fury = more dmg part
author: HalfW1ng    time: 2015-1-18 02:08:59

nieverland replied at 2015-1-17 17:21
Well even with Renji talent Grimmy have high grow rate that make the att cant have a lot of diferen ...

Ok so based on the length of the battle renji either outright beats Grimmjow or Grimm gets the upperhand over time.

So based on what you are saying normal Pve Grimm > Renji ( ES, Ryoka ) and short battles like pvp and maps Renji > Grimm?

i really need to test it out , im at 95 tokens for grimm atm. Will be nice when i can test it out myself.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-1-19 22:20:22

all i have to say it this u are comparing to different chars u should be should be doing grim in ac honor shop and tavern renji or wp grim and wp renji that is y u are getting different stats for one and wp ones are stronger then the ac and tavern one thats what you should be looking at
author: Zyclone    time: 2015-1-26 12:32:40

I really hope Grimmjow turns out to be the better character, i've been saving up alot for him and having a goal to get him. Would be really disappointed if Renji turns to be better..
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-1-26 12:53:29

Everything all depends on how you build them up and what you give them. It also depends on what your after and what your team needs
author: yourdog    time: 2015-2-6 04:37:14

[email protected] replied at 2015-1-26 11:53
Everything all depends on how you build them up and what you give them. It also depends on what your ...

About his skill, enemy cant recover HP. Does it mean anti-healer???
author: 161375458    time: 2015-2-9 16:40:29

is pantera form makin him gold ??
author: Scionstorm    time: 2015-3-18 17:05:30

You upgraded Renji once that effects his attack. Which is the main reason Renji has more attack on top of he is 2 levels higher.
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-3-18 18:58:52

I dont' care about attacks being higher nor anything, nor stats.  I want to kill ryoka, that's what i want to do.  Silver is my main goal in this game, because with that I will be able to janken,  and get ikkaku or kenpachi since it's an OP server.  So my question, a mod 3 renji, same level and stones and hogyoku, no hollow map cause all is on main.  Will he do more damage in ryoka than grimmjow? I really need to be in the top 10 damage dealers to be able to get the silver bonus.  Will grimmjow be good for that purpose?  Not pantera cause im just 80 now, unupgraded grimmjow.
author: grimmjowpantera    time: 2015-3-22 23:46:44

FireflySerenity replied at 2015-1-15 16:50
Personally I think Grim looks better on paper but you get him at level 1 (same as all event partners ...

for the SWP partners what ever lvl that it say you can get them at is the lvl they will be when you get them. i have grimmjow. and personally. when i got him it said i needed to me lvl 65. so indeed when i got him he was lvl 65. i used exp books to get him to the lvl i needed him to be. witch is right now lvl 87.
author: shieldandsword    time: 2015-3-23 05:57:55

[email protected] replied at 2015-1-26 11:53
Everything all depends on how you build them up and what you give them. It also depends on what your ...

Its rlly hard to take u seriously with that picture
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-3-27 16:01:59

grimmjowpantera replied at 2015-3-22 23:46
for the SWP partners what ever lvl that it say you can get them at is the lvl they will be when yo ...

What about panthera.  You have to be 100 main to get him, so when u do get panthera will he be 100? Or will he be the same level as your current shin grimmjow.  Btw do panthera coupons appear on huecomundo attack at level 100 for exchange? or is it a higher level like 105?
author: grimmjowpantera    time: 2015-3-27 16:18:20

SosaRey replied at 2015-3-27 16:01
What about panthera.  You have to be 100 main to get him, so when u do get panthera will he be 100 ...

yeah you have to wait till your lvl 100 but idk if he will be lvl 100 when you upgrade him as i am lvl 87. and all you need to do the grimmjow coupons to get the pantera form of him you need to be lvl 100 and have vip lvl 1. and the coupons you see for grimmjow are the same one you use to upgrade him. so you can collect them after you even have shin grimmjow so you can get ready to get pantera grimmjow.
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-3-27 16:31:11

grimmjowpantera replied at 2015-3-27 16:18
yeah you have to wait till your lvl 100 but idk if he will be lvl 100 when you upgrade him as i am ...

Ah ok, it's the same coupons, that's nice.  I'm considering getting him, I have Renji, Ikkaku and Main and he would be nice for ryokas though I think Kenpachi level 90 would be better, since I'm only 83 at the moment.

Something about grimmjow that I'm not sure is whether his damage will be like renjis or higher. I knowhis 16% damage but I'm not sure if that's same as strength talent.  When I had my rangiku, she'd crit a lot in her skill but those crits did like 1-2 dmg, you can say zero damage.  My tavern renji on the other hand did more.  They told me it's because of renjis talent that increases strength.

So, will the same thing that happened to rangiku happen to grimmjow because of lack of strength talent?  I felt rangiku dealt more damage when she didn't do her skill than when she did.  I don't want to use grimmjow and do like 1-2 damage to vanguards like rangiku did.  
author: grimmjowpantera    time: 2015-3-27 18:05:10

if you take it that way and if you rise him right he does more then renji. my tavern renji got replaced by grimmjow cuz at first grimmjow didnt do alot in his skill but after i got everything i needed on grimmjow he did alot more damage. his skill does for me a lil over 4000 crits.
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-3-27 19:23:25

grimmjowpantera replied at 2015-3-27 18:05
if you take it that way and if you rise him right he does more then renji. my tavern renji got repla ...

I'm level 83 right now.  Would you suggest for me to switch my tavern renji mod 2, and get grimmjow?  Or wait at 90 for kenpachi at get him at 90.  Is the difference between renji and grimmjow that great?

My base starting damage for ryoka is currently 2.5 million damage at start.
author: grimmjowpantera    time: 2015-3-27 19:45:23

SosaRey replied at 2015-3-27 19:23
I'm level 83 right now.  Would you suggest for me to switch my tavern renji mod 2, and get grimmjo ...

um. i'd get kenny when you lvl up to 90 cuz he's pretty good. even tho i have beaten 90's with grimmjow and the other team out classes me very easy and i still win. idk why XD but get kenny so you can run ryoka mode. im trying but eh. i know for a fact a fully modded pantera grimmjow is better then ikkaku. form what i have been told. but if you have the vip1 at least i'd get the coupons for grimmjow and the reishi then get kenny just in case. but i have a fully modded tavern renji and grimmjow is better then him. does alot more damage with thos crits.
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-3-28 00:11:42

grimmjowpantera replied at 2015-3-27 19:45
um. i'd get kenny when you lvl up to 90 cuz he's pretty good. even tho i have beaten 90's with gri ...

So during lets say 83-90, I could change my renji with grimmjow for max damage.  300 reishi is like 20 million silver for me. I get 5 million silver daily so that's like 4 days, not that bad, would be easier if I had uruhara.  I'm  half way for him 550 gold reishi.

So grimmjow is better than renji, for ryoka, hmm ok.  A question about renji that I'm curious.  Does his skill 20 percent increase attack, does it overwrite my main 9th skill that also increases attack, does the 9th overwrite renjis skill?

Lastly, I'm pretty sure fully modded panthera outbeats many and would be a best in ryoka, though from what I heard the mods aren't working and even if they were, they're hard to get.
author: grimmjowpantera    time: 2015-3-28 00:27:55

SosaRey replied at 2015-3-28 00:11
So during lets say 83-90, I could change my renji with grimmjow for max damage.  300 reishi is lik ...

yeah that would be true but it'd still be pretty good. and idk why the renji's and the main's 9th skill. i dont think it does  but i dont really know for sure on that. and as for grimmjow i have been using him in pvp and pve. tho im not completely into pve but i have noticed a great difference from the 2. overall grimmjow is better then renji. well at least for me. everyone else just hates on him cuz he's better then renji.
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-3-28 12:44:01

grimmjowpantera replied at 2015-3-28 00:27
yeah that would be true but it'd still be pretty good. and idk why the renji's and the main's 9th  ...

I just found it curious that only one person in my server uses grimmjow.  Nobody is going for panthera.  They all went for kenpachi and ikkaku, a matter which concerns me because when I reach level 100, if I do get kenpachi, I'd have 3 asaulters, kenpachi, ikkaku and panthera so one of them willl have to sit out for ryoka and ES

Also, If I get kenpachi at 90, him and ikkaku would surpass shin grimmjow, of course until I get panthera.  I'd stop using grimmjow, and he'd get weak.  From what I heard 90-100 level takes a very long while.
author: grimmjowpantera    time: 2015-3-28 14:19:35

SosaRey replied at 2015-3-28 12:44
I just found it curious that only one person in my server uses grimmjow.  Nobody is going for pant ...

most likely they dont know how good pantera really is. in my server there's alot of people who have grimmjow and one of them has pantera. he uses him for everything.
author: Leitzur    time: 2015-4-23 05:39:19

Edited by Leitzur at 2015-4-23 17:41
SosaRey replied at 2015-3-28 04:01
What about panthera.  You have to be 100 main to get him, so when u do get panthera will he be 100 ...

pantera grim lv will be the same as your shin grim lv.




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