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author: trojandrew time: 2017-7-12 08:24:21 Title: How does Muken perform in void?

Wondering how muken does in void. Debating about if it's worth taking everything off my brenji and tavern byakuya to buff him up when I get him. Want to know if he normally survives a few rounds to skill multiple times or if he goes down easy.

author: Xallog time: 2017-7-12 08:34:32

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author: rythen time: 2017-7-12 08:36:12

he's ok

author: trojandrew time: 2017-7-12 09:12:26

Xallog replied at 2017-7-12 08:34
Stacked mukens are doing about 80% of voids hp now after his last mod got fixed

Now when you say stacked how much are we talking here? Trying to figure if he'll survive w/o rj buff so he can stay alive for more hits. I'm assuming it'll only be him and my noza at that point

author: Xallog time: 2017-7-12 09:17:36

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author: Asian123 time: 2017-7-12 11:52:56

trojandrew replied at 2017-7-12 19:12
Now when you say stacked how much are we talking here? Trying to figure if he'll survive w/o rj b ...

Just show your team as it is right now.
Do you have Hasch and Kukaku?
You'd have to have a lot of defence+ Isane for healing Muken to survive void's 20 rounds along with of course Muken having high pdef and kdef.
How much can you invest in him? (How many exclusive fragments, bond fragments, mod fragments,gear lvl, stones, hogu can you put on him)
Send/Show details.

author: trojandrew time: 2017-7-12 12:22:03

Asian123 replied at 2017-7-12 11:52
Just show your team as it is right now.
Do you have Hasch and Kukaku?
You'd have to have a lot of ...

Can't send till later tonight but I'm running hiki oetsu brenji(will switch to muken) and noza w/ rj. Muken I can probably max his mods and get him to 1-1.5m bp as soon as I get him

author: Asian123 time: 2017-7-12 15:27:30

trojandrew replied at 2017-7-12 22:22
Can't send till later tonight but I'm running hiki oetsu brenji(will switch to muken) and noza w/ ...

Will need details, everything I mentioned

author: mayuri1177 time: 2017-7-12 15:53:52

Muken can survive if he has Hasch, Isane, the Bloodsucking Enchant and at least 500k base defense. With your current team, he wont survive the full 20 rounds, but might last a few extra rounds.

author: trojandrew time: 2017-7-12 17:21:33

Asian123 replied at 2017-7-12 15:27
Will need details, everything I mentioned

2k exlusive and 30k bond (for now i'll get some back from renji)
he'll eventually get red defense hogyoku but i dont plan on getting isane or hasch. i dont expect to survive all 20 rounds. looking to see if i can survive the first 5 atleast though

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author: Asian123 time: 2017-7-12 18:28:50

trojandrew replied at 2017-7-13 03:21
2k exlusive and 30k bond (for now i'll get some back from renji)
he'll eventually get red defense ...

You have Jakka I assume.
Even after considering that, I don't think he will survive because of getting blocked by the kido enemies in void.
That is why I suggested Kukaku and asked how much you can put into him.
Kukaku's 100% kido defence boost would help immensely if you already had him exclusive lvl 70+ as well as best wisdom stuff on him(accessories,hogus and stones).
I wouldn't want to ruin your expectations but you want the truth so that is it.
I don't believe you would be able to survive anymore than 2 rounds(maybe not even that I can't say exactly ofc) with what you currently have.

author: DeEmEn time: 2017-7-12 18:37:38

Yeah those gears and stuff are not enough for him to withstand over 1-2 rounds (after Muken attacked, all of them will give you block damage, that's like almost 70% damage depends on your real time p/k def). Hash is a must if you want him to last over 6 rounds, and if you can, get Isane like other suggested then you will started to see bright light that will last over 10. It really depends on your gear and stuff on your supports too. Kukaku will last you forever lol!

author: trojandrew time: 2017-7-12 18:49:29

DeEmEn replied at 2017-7-12 18:37
Yeah those gears and stuff are not enough for him to withstand over 1-2 rounds (after Muken attacked ...

ya i heard kukaku is like that. i plan on upgrading his gear, just finished maxing out hikis and getting another upgrade on noza so renjis gear is next. guess i'll just have to save for new partners/items for him

author: DeEmEn time: 2017-7-12 18:54:33

trojandrew replied at 2017-7-12 16:49
ya i heard kukaku is like that. i plan on upgrading his gear, just finished maxing out hikis and g ...

There will be more partners coming out in the future, dont stress it, you will know what to do when the time comes where your gears and stuff are all set up. Void is not too important when it comes to damage, unless you are going for the placement price. But usually those who top up a lot will take them regardless, so for now, aim to hit and steal the items everyone. (Ones that give you something when their hp down to specific amount)

author: trojandrew time: 2017-7-12 19:30:15

DeEmEn replied at 2017-7-12 18:54
There will be more partners coming out in the future, dont stress it, you will know what to do whe ...

eh i tried to get about top 6-8 depending on the prize, lol

author: ohmyvenus time: 2017-7-12 19:36:36

Asian123 replied at 2017-7-12 18:28
You have Jakka I assume.
Even after considering that, I don't think he will survive because of get ...

u wrong u can survive 20 round even without jakka and kukaku

author: Asian123 time: 2017-7-12 20:01:43

ohmyvenus replied at 2017-7-13 05:36
u wrong u can survive 20 round even without jakka and kukaku

With hopes and dreams definitely
VIP 0 Survive 40 rounds even without Muken right?

author: KilluZoldyck time: 2017-7-13 00:49:58

Asian123 replied at 2017-7-12 20:01
With hopes and dreams definitely
VIP 0 Survive 40 rounds even without Muken right?

It's actually pretty easy to make him survive in void tho

author: Asian123 time: 2017-7-13 00:53:04

KilluZoldyck replied at 2017-7-13 10:49
It's actually pretty easy to make him survive in void tho

sure it is
ez pz jakka-hasch-kukaku-allLvl12stones-MaxedHogus-Maxed140UltimateAccessories-WindchaserSet lemon squeezy

author: ohmyvenus time: 2017-7-13 01:46:28

Asian123 replied at 2017-7-12 20:01
With hopes and dreams definitely
VIP 0 Survive 40 rounds even without Muken right?

well i guess u never do experiment

author: Asian123 time: 2017-7-13 03:07:01

ohmyvenus replied at 2017-7-13 11:46
well i guess u never do experiment

well i guess you never know until you try right?
go ahead
try it
send me the results when you die before the void enemies even move

author: ohmyvenus time: 2017-7-13 05:12:48

Asian123 replied at 2017-7-13 03:07
well i guess you never know until you try right?
go ahead
try it

i did n dont wanna give the hint how survive at void without rj n kukaku.. manage 20 round easy

author: trojandrew time: 2017-7-13 06:42:37

ohmyvenus replied at 2017-7-13 05:12
i did n dont wanna give the hint how survive at void without rj n kukaku.. manage 20 round easy

Why are you posting if you're not going to help?

author: Xallog time: 2017-7-13 06:45:59

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author: Asian123 time: 2017-7-13 07:37:43

ohmyvenus replied at 2017-7-13 15:12
i did n dont wanna give the hint how survive at void without rj n kukaku.. manage 20 round easy

Absolutely.
You say that something is possible and have nothing to show for it.
Looks like somebody's been caught red handed.

author: ohmyvenus time: 2017-7-13 09:39:03

trojandrew replied at 2017-7-13 06:42
Why are you posting if you're not going to help?

why would i help?? any benefit to me how to do it?

author: ohmyvenus time: 2017-7-13 09:41:01

Asian123 replied at 2017-7-13 07:37
Absolutely.
You say that something is possible and have nothing to show for it.
Looks like somebod ...

sure u all will copy paste bcos u dont hv a brain to do it

author: trojandrew time: 2017-7-13 09:46:44

ohmyvenus replied at 2017-7-13 09:39
why would i help?? any benefit to me how to do it?

That's what these forums are for. That and showing off. You saying you know a way but won't show off or help is just pointless and a waste of space

author: thomaslon time: 2017-7-13 10:01:05

ohmyvenus replied at 2017-7-13 14:41
sure u all will copy paste bcos u dont hv a brain to do it

Prove your statement..if u cant, then just shut up cuz its not productive at all and no one will take you seriously...Btw if it was that easy, I think we all would know by now, cuz not everyone is soo "helpful" as you are..

author: Asian123 time: 2017-7-13 10:17:50

ohmyvenus replied at 2017-7-13 19:41
sure u all will copy paste bcos u dont hv a brain to do it

#NoBrain
#Retard
#Wouldbeunabletodoanythingbymyself

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-7-13 11:10:04

trojandrew replied at 2017-7-12 17:21
2k exlusive and 30k bond (for now i'll get some back from renji)
he'll eventually get red defense ...

my TSI with 350k+ pdef and 320k+ kdef + well fortified Hyorinmaru gets one shotted from a block there, FYI

author: ohmyvenus time: 2017-7-13 11:28:59

trojandrew replied at 2017-7-13 09:46
That's what these forums are for. That and showing off. You saying you know a way but won't show o ...

it's not showing off, it's a work for u to do that other partner n zanp can do the same like rj did, seems u curious about it haha enjoy it

author: ohmyvenus time: 2017-7-13 11:30:33

thomaslon replied at 2017-7-13 10:01
Prove your statement..if u cant, then just shut up cuz its not productive at all and no one will t ...

seems u not understand i don't like ppl copy paste, if they all do the same non of u will buy rj n kuka i want the game keep running so pls keep topup

author: [email protected] time: 2017-7-13 11:37:27

yano, if u wanna have an idea of a good stacked aizen come check nix. u know how much he does in void anyway so come take a look, and see what u can do with it , trust me, that guy is helpful

author: desintegra time: 2017-7-13 12:40:28

mayuri1177 replied at 2017-7-12 15:53
Muken can survive if he has Hasch, Isane, the Bloodsucking Enchant and at least 500k base defense. ...

can he survive without hash?

author: trojandrew time: 2017-7-13 12:53:23

ohmyvenus replied at 2017-7-13 11:28
it's not showing off, it's a work for u to do that other partner n zanp can do the same like rj di ...

I know you aren't showing off bc you aren't doing anything. You aren't helping you aren't providing any information. All your doing is saying you have a way and trolling my thread

author: trojandrew time: 2017-7-13 12:54:25

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-7-13 11:10
my TSI with 350k+ pdef and 320k+ kdef + well fortified Hyorinmaru gets one shotted from a block th ...

It's different per partner . My noza lasts 3-5 rounds even from blocks

author: trojandrew time: 2017-7-13 12:55:49

[email protected] replied at 2017-7-13 11:37
yano, if u wanna have an idea of a good stacked aizen come check nix. u know how much he does in voi ...

What server do I can swing by or is it easier to contact on forums?

author: mayuri1177 time: 2017-7-13 16:01:43

desintegra replied at 2017-7-13 12:40
can he survive without hash?

He can, but he will need much higher base defense of around 750k(mine can get to over 600k pdef and 500k sdef) to survive without the defense buff from RJ plus healing from enchant and Isane. Having Kukaku would help though against Kido enemies.

author: badbone time: 2017-7-13 16:21:02

trojandrew replied at 2017-7-13 12:53
I know you aren't showing off bc you aren't doing anything. You aren't helping you aren't providin ...

i will give u a hint use ichibey without hit and only muken with him
Muken will restore his fury all the time and you will have 200% deff so he can survive 20 rounds without RJ

author: DeEmEn time: 2017-7-13 18:30:48

Edited by DeEmEn at 2017-7-13 16:33

Stacking is a solution if you want it easy way lol! If you really want to survive, have at least 500k+ p+k def that's with RJ.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-7-13 19:14:46

trojandrew replied at 2017-7-13 12:55
What server do I can swing by or is it easier to contact on forums?

US 61 , Well, we're 56-62 i think after merge so somewhere in between those servers . hes never on forums so u cant see anything here
just come by take a look, u can pm me if u want some more details, but it aint my acct and nix doesnt like to show his chars too much

author: mayuri1177 time: 2017-7-13 19:20:44

This was the last hit for the VR on the 12th. My Muken had the better gear compared to Mayuri, but still has less defense. This shows how much the healing and the extra defense from RJ makes. With Muken's defense 670k pdef and 525 sdef(plus Soul Power), Isane also has a halo that reduces enemy damage rate by 30%, he still nearly dies a few times and is saved by heals. Since Mayuri blocks most attacks, he takes much less damage.

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

author: badbone time: 2017-7-13 19:46:15

yes and last void end with 2 enters so much talk for
2 min event xD

author: theunknown404 time: 2017-7-13 21:07:11

badbone replied at 2017-7-13 16:21
i will give u a hint use ichibey without hit and only muken with him
Muken will restore his fury ...

Problem with that is when Muken fury regens himself instead. Suddenly, you will have no defense buff. Also, from what I'm remembering, after you've attacked and are being blocked, I don't think the defense buff counts towards the block damage anymore if the buff is about to clear. Also, first round, Muken won't have a defense buff against block, anyway. If he did, then he won't be protected from an attack-all enemy. Unless you can make him slower than the extremely slow enemy formation.

author: chaoschief time: 2017-7-14 01:14:39

Muken Aizen does the most DMG in terms of Partner + fully modded.
Muken Aizen > Bazz B > Bankai Yamamoto > Yhwach > Berserk Renji

author: desintegra time: 2017-7-14 04:31:33

badbone replied at 2017-7-13 16:21
i will give u a hint use ichibey without hit and only muken with him
Muken will restore his fury ...

actually good idea but muken can add fury himself so it's not for sure will depend on luck )

author: desintegra time: 2017-7-14 04:33:57

mayuri1177 replied at 2017-7-13 16:01
He can, but he will need much higher base defense of around 750k(mine can get to over 600k pdef an ...

thx for info man. guess will have to get her still isn't that expensive as Hasch

author: jgooner time: 2017-7-14 05:26:20

theunknown404 replied at 2017-7-14 04:07
Problem with that is when Muken fury regens himself instead. Suddenly, you will have no defense bu ...

well for players without kukaku and hashwalth its something but wont work for new players cuz these 2 need to be realy staked, mosters will mostly hit monk so its not problem that muken will have the def only on att turn

author: badbone time: 2017-7-14 06:11:53

theunknown404 replied at 2017-7-13 21:07
Problem with that is when Muken fury regens himself instead. Suddenly, you will have no defense bu ...

well its not perfect xD but its the best i can think for the things
that were free + this will only work if you stacked hard both .
if someone try this when he is using his exclusive on the supports for speed he wont do shit

author: theunknown404 time: 2017-7-14 09:34:36

jgooner replied at 2017-7-14 05:26
well for players without kukaku and hashwalth its something but wont work for new players cuz thes ...

yeah
They may also consider Bambietta's dodge decrease assuming it actually works.

author: badbone time: 2017-7-14 11:38:23

theunknown404 replied at 2017-7-14 09:34
yeah
They may also consider Bambietta's dodge decrease assuming it actually works.

yeah its better to buy the latest partners like Miracle and auto-win

author: theunknown404 time: 2017-7-14 21:08:34

badbone replied at 2017-7-14 11:38
yeah its better to buy the latest partners like Miracle and auto-win

auto-win is best

author: badbone time: 2017-7-14 22:25:43

theunknown404 replied at 2017-7-14 21:08
auto-win is best

xD it is but even Miracle is not enough for that fuji guy

author: theunknown404 time: 2017-7-14 22:44:14

badbone replied at 2017-7-14 22:25
xD it is but even Miracle is not enough for that fuji guy

Make Captain America great again.

author: Asian123 time: 2017-7-18 11:12:38

theunknown404 replied at 2017-7-15 08:44
Make Captain America great again.

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author: theunknown404 time: 2017-7-18 12:27:07

Asian123 replied at 2017-7-18 11:12
http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Bernkastel
Make Bernkastel great again

eyyyy

author: Asian123 time: 2017-7-18 12:41:06

theunknown404 replied at 2017-7-18 22:27
eyyyy

Make Bernkastel great again= Beat Fuji

author: theunknown404 time: 2017-7-18 16:27:00

Asian123 replied at 2017-7-18 12:41
Make Bernkastel great again= Beat Fuji

Let's start a fundraiser for this cause.

author: Asian123 time: 2017-7-18 19:23:45

theunknown404 replied at 2017-7-19 02:27
Let's start a fundraiser for this cause.

Starting off by me adding $-10

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