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author: Rokianas time: 2017-8-27 09:54:25 Title: Retsu Unohana or Kirinji?

Hey guyz.
So i accidntly rented Retsu Unohana at Karakura Town Festival

So i got Kirinji as my secondary support yet i don't really like him and was planning on changing him for quite some time already.
Retsu Unohana is OP at PVE and with her Exclusive great for PVP too.
So guyz.
What ya think?

Is it worth for me to start on renting her and finally buying her out?

author: [email protected] time: 2017-8-27 10:26:32

In my opinion, retsu kenpachi is better than kirinji after getting her exclusive. Only thing is that she can't wear red hogus. But even without exclusive, she is better than kirinji in pve.

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-8-27 10:35:34

She is nice in pve, but she is too slow in pvp. Tenjiro is way better partner then her in pvp

author: Brahmastra time: 2017-8-27 12:40:32

Kirinji is quite cringy so go with uno, you know, u no, uno.

UNOOOO

author: Xallog time: 2017-8-27 12:43:01

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author: Rokianas time: 2017-8-27 13:41:08

Xallog replied at 2017-8-27 19:43
+4 get fucked nerd

And BAM...
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The last card is +4 too ;)

author: DeEmEn time: 2017-8-28 02:39:29

kirinji's exclusive is amazing too

author: RiadDahoe time: 2017-8-28 07:02:38

Edited by RiadDahoe at 2017-8-28 07:06

DeEmEn replied at 2017-8-28 02:39
kirinji's exclusive is amazing too

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yep his excl is nice, he is main damage dealer on 1 of my acc's , oh yeah his excl is level 80...

author: [email protected] time: 2017-8-29 08:05:13

Rokianas replied at 2017-8-28 02:41
And BAM...
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During my time, I used wild card as a shield for +2 and +4 cards LOL xD

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-8-29 09:00:56

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author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-8-29 09:04:20

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-8-29 09:00
wait so what does his ex skill do

last i saw (on paper) it stated 'cast void on 1 ally'??

AOE 160%, void on 1 enemy, decrease 5% speed on enemies, increase supports 15% att 3 rounds

author: RiadDahoe time: 2017-8-29 09:11:14

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-8-29 09:00
wait so what does his ex skill do

last i saw (on paper) it stated 'cast void on 1 ally'??

just from attack 2, to attack all ..... and decrease enemies speed.. wonder if i should inherit and dump all on hiki , from ubp..

author: Rokianas time: 2017-8-29 09:32:08

Cmon guyz, Kirinji just sucks >.>
There are so many better champs

author: [email protected] time: 2017-8-29 09:49:09

Rokianas replied at 2017-8-29 09:32
Cmon guyz, Kirinji just sucks >.>
There are so many better champs

actually kirinji sucks mid game, but early game hes one of the best suports for that silly low price, and late game if u get hes exclu than he turns into a quite powerhorse

author: Rokianas time: 2017-8-29 10:21:34

[email protected] replied at 2017-8-29 16:49
actually kirinji sucks mid game, but early game hes one of the best suports for that silly low pri ...

True that.
He's one of the easiest champion to get for those who spend money.
And once early game ends he's good only once he gets exclusive.
Mid game (which is for me now) he really sucks, but he's definitely is better than Nel... so.... i use him >.>

author: [email protected] time: 2017-8-29 10:43:48

Rokianas replied at 2017-8-29 10:21
True that.
He's one of the easiest champion to get for those who spend money.
And once early game ...

i can be wrong, but i really think the reason why hes so hated by most people is that hes hitting random, also another thing i noticed of late about him is that hes burn doesnt hit as often as it used to back in the first few months after he got released, but still, for 2k gold there is no other partner in that price that can come even close to hes dmg/speed/buff/dot and most important, 2k gold for a partner with ignore invinci
but then again, allmost 34k exclu frags so he can become a true aoe hitter is quite hard

author: [email protected] time: 2017-8-29 10:45:10

Edited by [email protected] at 2017-8-29 10:46

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-8-29 09:04
AOE 160%, void on 1 enemy, decrease 5% speed on enemies, increase supports 15% att 3 rounds

nvm, lack of attention

author: DeEmEn time: 2017-8-29 13:20:04

I hate it when people say kirinji sucks because others said so without even thinking about the game themselves. To high end players, yes he sucks, and there are better partners out there. But think about it in your own situation and where you stand, different point of view should apply. Use your brain to play this game and have your own thoughts, instead of always listen to others.

author: Zeeker time: 2017-8-29 13:26:08

DeEmEn replied at 2017-8-29 13:20
I hate it when people say kirinji sucks because others said so without even thinking about the game ...

Kirinji sucks because I was told on how much he sucks with no explanation whats so ever

author: [email protected] time: 2017-8-29 13:28:19

DeEmEn replied at 2017-8-29 13:20
I hate it when people say kirinji sucks because others said so without even thinking about the game ...

true dat, but many who search for info and tips on this forum tend to follow what others allready have or done without thinkin about the time those invested and when they see that their partner aint nowere near they start to say it sucks or its bad and so on

author: Rokianas time: 2017-8-29 14:26:47

DeEmEn replied at 2017-8-29 20:20
I hate it when people say kirinji sucks because others said so without even thinking about the game ...

I say he sucks caus he actually do.
He hits 2 random enemies with middle growth rate.
He casts void that nice but his ignite doesn't applies always.

I only took him because my Nel was becoming insanely weak without too much attention.

But ever since i took him, i was looking for replacement, and this accident of renting Unohana pushed me toward thinking of her even more than i did before (since i wanted to get her about the time i got Shinso in my team).
Also Yamamoto is becoming pretty shitty too, so i'll need to replace him too in the future

author: ibeengettinmoney time: 2017-8-29 14:29:22

Rokianas replied at 2017-8-29 14:26
I say he sucks caus he actually do.
He hits 2 random enemies with middle growth rate.
He casts voi ...

so you replace tenjiro that hits 2 targets with retsu uno who hits 1 target
okay, legitness

author: Zeeker time: 2017-8-29 14:35:58

ibeengettinmoney replied at 2017-8-29 14:29
so you replace tenjiro that hits 2 targets with retsu uno who hits 1 target
okay, legitness

Haven't you heard? 1 hit partners are part of the new meta

author: DeEmEn time: 2017-8-29 14:39:04

[email protected] replied at 2017-8-29 11:28
true dat, but many who search for info and tips on this forum tend to follow what others allready ...

The potentials of the partners are all layout for the players to look at and see if they think it will fit their formation. Also, their enemies around them, what are their buff and debuff, zanpakuto and etc... That's for PvP. PvE simply look at your own team and what to do to gain more power and not override each partner's buff.

This is what makes PvP interesting, instead of asking others to strip so they can get stronger partners. This is what makes this game interesting. If not, you are just playing just to play this game.

author: DeEmEn time: 2017-8-29 15:12:30

Rokianas replied at 2017-8-29 12:26
I say he sucks caus he actually do.
He hits 2 random enemies with middle growth rate.
He casts voi ...

Oh so you are only looking at his normal skills... and claim that he is bad. Have you look at other aspects?

Chance to ignite enemies with growth rate of 100%, so there's a chance that he is doing 300% growth rate of damage. Chaos on enemy and increase ally support speed? Come on, with that damage and all these CC debuff, what more do you want? Did you look at their growth rate and passive and mods?

So why get Ken.Uno? What's good about her vs. Kirinji?

author: Rokianas time: 2017-8-29 15:48:49

ibeengettinmoney replied at 2017-8-29 21:29
so you replace tenjiro that hits 2 targets with retsu uno who hits 1 target
okay, legitness

Seems like you don't have a fcking brain mate.
Your perspective: "Ohh that partner hits few enemies, and that one only hits one. The first one must be better. I'm so smart, i don't need to end school. You know, FB posts says that all millionaires drop out of school. I must be one of them, cho cho, i'm so smart."
Man, you are idiot if it's all you look at. Got nothing else to say to you.

author: Rokianas time: 2017-8-29 15:53:22

DeEmEn replied at 2017-8-29 22:12
Oh so you are only looking at his normal skills... and claim that he is bad. Have you look at other ...

Exclusive skills take sht tons of exclusives to get them. Spec on the ones who needs 70lvl.
Sure Kirinji's exclusive is quite nice, yet as i said before, i don't like him.
Retsu Exclusive is alot better for me. Also she's tons of times better in pve with her normal skill. + there is a chance of infinite invincibility loop on her.

author: ibeengettinmoney time: 2017-8-29 15:59:05

and you are even more retarded than you let on. guess youre the type that when cant think of a valid reply with a thought out explanation resorts instead of childish lash outs. no worries, call me what you want, i wont be offended by you. i simply stated my own opinion, if you are such a moron that cant counter my statement with something else than idiot suit yourself, after all its your account, your formation so it makes no difference at all for me that you stick with tenjiro or retsu uno

author: [email protected] time: 2017-8-29 16:04:48

Rokianas replied at 2017-8-29 15:53
Exclusive skills take sht tons of exclusives to get them. Spec on the ones who needs 70lvl.
Sure K ...

if her invinci still helps you then you should count ur blessings, cuz in my csb i got quite alot of fully moded kirinjis so invinci aint what it used to be. true i went and got hiki from ubp and got her exclu skill but honestly if she didnt had that fury steal i whould have passed on her and made kirinji
on a side note, im not so sure that retsu uno even with her 400% special can actually outdmg kirinji

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-8-29 16:26:48

Tenjiro is really great supporter for low vip player. He can be faster then hiki, also soon there will be lots of mukens in game so tenjiro is best partner with chaos for low vip players. People hate him cuz he is not aoe, but still he can be great lead supporter and he gives 20% speed on your support line that is not a small buff.
CRINGY META WILL BE BACK SOON CHAOS ALL THE WAY

author: [email protected] time: 2017-8-29 16:31:13

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-8-29 16:26
Tenjiro is really great supporter for low vip player. He can be faster then hiki, also soon there wi ...

screw that, all is gonna change with this new hivchigo that just said the biggest "fck you" to fury stones and fury wep ench and fury builders. at this point it whouldnt surprise me to see some gm gear pieces offered soon, i mean arent they just sellin a "cheatlike" partner for 50k gold top ?

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-8-29 16:36:52

[email protected] replied at 2017-8-29 16:31
screw that, all is gonna change with this new hivchigo that just said the biggest "fck you" to fur ...

Yea they are, i want to see him in action when chosen ones get him

. But i dont think that much about him, he is for top dogs partner ik my competition wont get him, tho he is broken asf that def mod will be op in pvp

author: [email protected] time: 2017-8-29 16:41:34

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-8-29 16:36
Yea they are, i want to see him in action when chosen ones get him . But i dont think that muc ...

sorry my friend but on this one i beg to differ, rj is broken, muken is broken, muken with kyoka phase 2 is broken, but hell verse ichigo skilling without fury ? i call that a frikkin cheat

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-8-29 16:46:52

[email protected] replied at 2017-8-29 16:41
sorry my friend but on this one i beg to differ, rj is broken, muken is broken, muken with kyoka p ...

His last mod is cheat too rip defense

author: [email protected] time: 2017-8-29 17:01:29

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-8-29 16:46
His last mod is cheat too rip defense

thats assumin the enemy can survive past round 2, even top peeps with hasch's and kuka's and other partners with def boost halo's are rapidly startin to lose their former edge with this cheat

, and to complement the pissin all over the fury stones required up until now and that undescribeable ultimate mod, they also smacked a god damn 6 agi on hes ass

like you said, low chances the peeps i usualy fight will get him, its still a chance even if low, shiet cant even think straight about this partner, only walkin frikkin cheat haunts and dashes thru my mind

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-8-29 19:06:03

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author: DeEmEn time: 2017-8-29 22:03:56

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-8-29 17:06
kirnji sucks

cause i said so loooong ago

you suck

btw, dont forget supports has HIGH chance to Chaos Hell Ichigo, so you will end up killing yourself lolololol!

author: DeEmEn time: 2017-8-29 22:55:35

Rokianas replied at 2017-8-29 13:53
Exclusive skills take sht tons of exclusives to get them. Spec on the ones who needs 70lvl.
Sure K ...

Kirinji exclusive works for both PvE and PvP, you can keep that on and rule over Uno.Ken anyday, especially at your level. From low to mid to high VIP (maybe not 10), kirinji is better choice. Plus, I need to remind you, dont just look at skills alone...

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-8-30 10:26:28

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author: DeEmEn time: 2017-8-30 18:54:08

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-8-30 08:26
what could kill a stacked hell ichigo tho

the guy is more op than muken

He can kill himself?

Not if you are faster =] KS dont clear everytime.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-8-30 19:15:03

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author: DeEmEn time: 2017-8-30 19:33:55

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-8-30 17:15
who would make hell ichigo faster than opponent?

It's supports that skills first. It's not about him.

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author: DeEmEn time: 2017-8-30 20:35:34

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-8-30 18:16
he can take it all

Sure, think however you want lol! My discussion ends here.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-8-30 20:59:12

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author: DeEmEn time: 2017-8-31 00:13:48

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-8-30 18:59
k guess you still have much to learn about how op muken is and how op op hell will be

fookin u ...

lol, trust me, I know this game. I know a lot. haha!

author: Rokianas time: 2017-8-31 01:24:25

DeEmEn replied at 2017-8-29 22:12
Oh so you are only looking at his normal skills... and claim that he is bad. Have you look at other ...

Also, currently my biggest trouble in CSB are stacked VG's.
Unohana with her Invincibility skill and +15% Break Defense mod really helps to take out those annoying ****** out ;)
And for PVE, well, talked this out already i think, she's better PVE.

author: DeEmEn time: 2017-8-31 01:43:48

Rokianas replied at 2017-8-30 23:24
Also, currently my biggest trouble in CSB are stacked VG's.
Unohana with her Invincibility skill a ...

Then your mind is fixed. I will no longer say anything. Enjoy your Uno.Ken lol!

author: Qforina time: 2018-5-23 08:54:28

Kirinji is overall far better then unohana and is more serious character by itself.
There is no doubt, kirinji is much better at PVP, his only bad thing is that he only hit's 2 random enemies(Without Ex skill i think)
His speed is much, much better then unohana's and other stats too, only thing i hate about my kirinji is his Physical defense i think is a low a little bit.
Unohana is better in PVE because of her growth rate(400%).
Also she is meant to be played as secondary support by my thought because she is here to finish one of enemies and because of her low speed and yet little bit i think she is outdated.
In other words she is not bad if you are lower vip, but if you are higher vip try to reach something better.

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