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author: Zeta75 time: 2017-9-7 23:32:48 Title: Looking for some Advice

Hey guys, bit of a newbie and wanted some opinions on a few things in game. As a reference, my server is now a month old, and I just hit lvl 89 with 53 reiatsu.

My current formation is Kirinji, Kisuke, Ikakku, Kido Main, and Toshiro...currently switch Toshiro out for Shin Grimmy during events. I am currently focused more on pve than pvp...first row csb is enough for me

I looked around the forums and have a general idea of where I want to go, but wanted to ask a few things and get some input.

1.)  Once I hit lvl 90 in a day or two, I was planning to get Kenny to replace Grimmy for events.  However, I don't plan on upgrading him so is his slightly better growth and 300% skill dmg + block buff every other turn yield enough dmg output over Grim's 170% every turn plus extra depending on fury crits to justify recruiting him?

2.)  Since I'm still new to events, will day 6 of Reio Gaurdian have the cyclone set for 5 points again, or does it vary each event cycle/was a one time mistake?  Was planning on getting my last 2 advanced sets cheap there, but if they permanately changed the cost would it be best to wait until treasure box and get 2 sets for 3000g + extra stones and other resources?

3.) My server started during the recent Hiki UBP and Seireitei Atk.  I'm not a huge spender so I figured it would be best to focus on several Seireitei Attacks first before going for a UBP partner or zan?  Unless maybe Tensa pops up...Yes I'm planning on switching over to Red Stark at lvl 100 (he's one of my favorite characters) and figured Seireitei Attacks and Tensa would be the best overall to support him and the rest of my team in pve and pvp.  Also, comparing stats to Tensa and the fact that Jakka is a thing...is there a chance Katen Kyokotsu will ever be added to UBP or is the shield+Crit boosts too stronk for that to happen?

4.) I may not be a huge spender (use a rewards site to top up small amounts when I want, because screw using money earned through actual work), but I could still manage enough to rent someone from limited lease to permanately use...I probably wouldn't top up anything once I get my last 2 advanced sets outside of monthly shinigami agent anyway.  The only two that seem managable and worth it for me are Rajin Yoruichi or Yhwach.  I'm leaning more towards Yoruichi because her bonds are easily accessible and eventually I'll get Muken who would 100% replace Yhwach.  Guess I answered my own question between the two, but are there any not so obvious hidden gems among the rentable partners that I could consider...outside of renting for bonds of course?

5.)  That being said I still need a solid assaulter until Muken once I start to focus on pvp.  When I'm ready, should I go back and recruit/upgrade tavern byakuya or just tough it out with ikkaku until  someone like B.Renji pops up in UBP?

6.) Also, gained the potential to upgrade rank to 5th Captain where it starts to cost you 5k prestige daily.  Should I just continue to up my rank normally, or bank prestige for 2-3 months until I can get to something like Zero Division for the damage rate and avoid injury rate to be more noticable?

7.)  Was recruiting Harribel a good investment since she earns 26 mod frags daily which I can eventually use to inherit for universals?  Also, is it best to inherit at mod 4 or wait until max modify level is reached?

8.)  Soul Cultivation - Should I put an extra 5 - 7.5mil silver daily into it or am I still at a point where I should continue to focus everything on reitsu+gear enhance.  Also figured I'd clear the stones first then exclusively get exclusive frags right?

9.)  Wish I searched forums about protection stones earlier because I just found out today that buying one permanately protects all your gears of that level

. In other words, for 100g I can now easily max infuse all my Aquarias and firelord gear without resistance

. Are there any other little game mechanics like this that I might not have realized

?

Thank you for taking the time to help and read this. Any additional tips are welcome

author: Gensei_chan time: 2017-9-8 02:32:54

Lazy to read all
Get one strong partner and stack all stones on him
Make him 100 fury at first round so he can attack
Stark is cool if stacked enought
Tensa zangestsu is cool

author: Gensei_chan time: 2017-9-8 02:34:45

Edit stark mods to 12 % block
Jakka and muken and kyuku are the best thing u can get

author: Gensei_chan time: 2017-9-8 02:37:26

About mehanic maybe evolution on each partner
Soul cultivation for. Exclusive level

author: Zeta75 time: 2017-9-8 10:26:49

Alright thanks, so for the immediate future should I recruit Kenpachi at lvl 90 to replace Shin Grimmjow for events?

author: Aresiel time: 2017-9-8 10:59:01

Zeta75 replied at 2017-9-8 10:26
Alright thanks, so for the immediate future should I recruit Kenpachi at lvl 90 to replace Shin Grim ...

Yes, also he's worth upgrading if you get the free red reishi from Witch House event.

author: Zeta75 time: 2017-9-8 11:20:40

Aresiel replied at 2017-9-8 10:59
Yes, also he's worth upgrading if you get the free red reishi from Witch House event.

Alright sounds good. I'm actually sitting on 800 red reishi, was going to save it for Stark but I guess lvl 100 is far enough away that I should just upgrade Kenpachi right away?

author: Aresiel time: 2017-9-8 12:39:32

Zeta75 replied at 2017-9-8 11:20
Alright sounds good. I'm actually sitting on 800 red reishi, was going to save it for Stark but I ...

Yeah there's a good chance you will get more red reishi from an event before you pick up your Stark.

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2017-9-8 14:37:47

Right so you seem already set generally so that's great, apologies if any of this is already answered

1). Yep, Tavern Kenpachi does indeed outdamageGrimmjow in everyway and assist your team much greater in PVE than Grimmjow. Somewhat debatable on his second form but Kenpachi is more reliable and has more potential due to the now new red partner system where you can make gold tavern partners turn red; increasing growth rates and base stats and the ability to equip red items like Tier 12 (Warrior) Hogu etc. so Kenpachi's future is definitely greater than any form of Grimmjow ^^

2). It does seem to be a permanent fixture so you can expect the gear to be there at 5 points ^^ The rewards don't seem to vary ever until some sort of universal update is given to all events where they all need some kind of push, which has probably effected Reio Guardian maybe once or twice ever, they only got such recent changes so it's fine to depend on it to stay the way it is for now

Spending so much for a set isn't the best option as you can obtain quite the lot more for 3000 gold, or simply saving it is a much better choice when it is just for upgrading advanced sets. Patience is a nice aspect in this game so if you can try to focus on that then it'll help a lot ^^ Although the extra resources would be nice alongside the gear on a new starting server, compared to Reio Guardian it is definitely not considered the best option xD

3). MY BOY IS GETTING Starrk, AND RED, YOU'VE WON THE GAME ALREADY YOU DON'T NEED HELP <3

you're beautiful

Unfortunately UBP is in a state of progression now where it's able to bring in quite huge figures in there, and they aren't to miss out on, especially when it looks like they aren't backtracking anymore, a.k.a doing repeats as they'd rather slowly progress with better/different characters instead. I would recommend Seiretei Attack (SA) usually do to the fact that it gives you rewards in every department of the game, meaning a huge overall upgrade, however I would only recommend this now ONCE you've finally obtained a good, "final" team you're willing to stick with and not change for a very long time, as missing out on UBP has now become much more of a huge predicament than missing out on SA ^^

4). The limited lease section does indeed have "hidden gems" but they're verrry specific to certain formations and they aren't exactly made for general formations, and general formations are much more recommended to build rather than stat specific ones as they give you an edge in everything, and can give you a general idea of how you should be playing game; really it's just the best idea to follow when starting on new servers, unless you already know that you'd rather follow your WANTS than NEEDS, then ye just go ahead and get whatever partner you want ^^ An example of a hidden gem would be someone like Shinigami Kensei, who's only usage comes in PVP, but not just PVP as a whole, but for those rival fights where you need a confirmed edge in victory, and i really mean rival fights like 50/50 win ratio

So Yoruichi would be your best choice in terms of a support you will keep for late game material, the others do give up quite as much as she could offer from a general perspective, your other best bet would be partners like assaulters like B.Renji, but seeming as though you're already planning for Muken Aizen, this doesn't need to be an option unless you want a heavy PVE boost until the day you obtain Muken ^^

5). Oh there you go, B.Renji in UBP helps. Ofc this isn't something to rely upon, as earlier stated due to you not knowing who comes in UBP, and B.Renji has appeared multiple times so who knows about his status. However if you don't mind inheriting stats for a partner to get rid of them once they are over and done with, do obtain Tavern Byakuya, he can help in PVP with his death mod and overall insane damage and can be helpful PVE if focused this way ^^
If inheriting is an issue then I would simply wait it out with tavern partners like your Tavern Ikkaku, it won't be so much of a harm sticking with him, especially since he's already great in PVE/PVP ^^

6). Save your prestige, in new servers you can easily dominate or fall behind and you'll never know your position. Unless you are indeed a confirmed top 1-3 spot in arena, then go ahead and keep ranking up to stay up to date with stats, but if you aren't so sure about your position or you don't compete in arena so much, then i'd stack the prestige until you can get something like Zero Division titles as you mentioned

7). She is great only if you're able to sustain that amount of gold spending just about forever, and wait until final mod ^^ Your Kirinji also helps with modify fragment farming due to being able to obtain free Kirinji fragments from the Shinigami Agent daily/weekly rewards if you have that ^^

8). You don't need to spend silver on it so early, only do this once you've had everything else up to a nice amount (a.k.a high level gears, reiatsu etc.) so you aren't just spending silver on progressive small upgrades that maybe permanent. Yep do stones first, I would only focus on exclusive fragments first IF you actually need one of your partners to have their exclusive skill, emphasis on 'need', meaning you cannot progress further or you might be stuck facing predicaments without it ^^

9). Ah that's an unfortunate find for you xD

honestly can't think of any small mechanics like that which could be huge, so it's quite difficult to remember them unfortunately, apologies for that ^^ :/(apologies for the long read :/)

You seem set honestly! You know your position and it seems like you can deal with it too, not much general tips to give other than make sure your decisions are clear and long term, never focus on short term especially in a new server as they can be your wrong doing with a simple decision made, just be sure to always take it to the forums or ask someone in PM's for decisions like you asked here. But yea it just seems like you're doing great, not much to say other than answer those questions ^^

author: Miken97 time: 2017-9-8 15:12:53

Edited by Miken97 at 2017-9-8 21:46

1.) Once I hit lvl 90 in a day or two, I was planning to get Kenny to replace Grimmy for events. However, I don't plan on upgrading him so is his slightly better growth and 300% skill dmg + block buff every other turn yield enough dmg output over Grim's 170% every turn plus extra depending on fury crits to justify recruiting him?

If you aren't going to upgrade shin grimmjow into pantera then it's worth to get kenpachi (he is not only stronger but also it's easier to swap gear between him and vanguard

)

2.) Since I'm still new to events, will day 6 of Reio Gaurdian have the cyclone set for 5 points again, or does it vary each event cycle/was a one time mistake? Was planning on getting my last 2 advanced sets cheap there, but if they permanately changed the cost would it be best to wait until treasure box and get 2 sets for 3000g + extra stones and other resources?

Rewards are same there every time unless they do big reroll so it should be there. In case you won't get them/they will be removed you can get them either from csb (will take a lot of time for you but you won't need to use any gold) or get them from that event (tbh I thought that 2k for set is cheapest price, didn't know you could get 2 of them for 3k gold

, be sure those are right ones tho since you can't upgrade sets under lvl 100)

3.) My server started during the recent Hiki UBP and Seireitei Atk. I'm not a huge spender so I figured it would be best to focus on several Seireitei Attacks first before going for a UBP partner or zan? Unless maybe Tensa pops up...Yes I'm planning on switching over to Red Stark at lvl 100 (he's one of my favorite characters) and figured Seireitei Attacks and Tensa would be the best overall to support him and the rest of my team in pve and pvp. Also, comparing stats to Tensa and the fact that Jakka is a thing...is there a chance Katen Kyokotsu will ever be added to UBP or is the shield+Crit boosts too stronk for that to happen?

Katen is still best zan for PvE (excluding void) and very solid for PvP as well (even if it can't compete with RJ) so it's IMO nearly impossible for now but it probably will happen at some point in time but doubt it will be anytime soon.

4.) I may not be a huge spender (use a rewards site to top up small amounts when I want, because screw using money earned through actual work), but I could still manage enough to rent someone from limited lease to permanately use...I probably wouldn't top up anything once I get my last 2 advanced sets outside of monthly shinigami agent anyway. The only two that seem managable and worth it for me are Rajin Yoruichi or Yhwach. I'm leaning more towards Yoruichi because her bonds are easily accessible and eventually I'll get Muken who would 100% replace Yhwach. Guess I answered my own question between the two, but are there any not so obvious hidden gems among the rentable partners that I could consider...outside of renting for bonds of course?

Limited lease is gone tho

. It got replaced by karakura festival, not 100% sure but I think that all partners rentable in limited lease (+some new ones) are there but you will need to top-up to rent them first (and later pay off them with gold just like in limited lease), however I don't think it's worth it as getting partners by rent is more expensive than getting them in other events, for example if I recall correctly raijin's permament price is 50k gold but you should be able to get her for 30k and in one special event she was even for 20k, so better stack gold and wait for event where she is cheap to buy her at once rather than keep paying her off as it's pretty overpriced way to get things, before getting her it's worth to rent her once tho as that way she will be at your lvl

5.) That being said I still need a solid assaulter until Muken once I start to focus on pvp. When I'm ready, should I go back and recruit/upgrade tavern byakuya or just tough it out with ikkaku until someone like B.Renji pops up in UBP?

Getting byakuya wouldn't be bad idea since thanks to his exclusive skill he is good for both PvP and PvE and thanks to death mod he is also great for void but it's not necessity, actually before getting muken you can treat assaulters as characters only for PvE

. In my server before muken there were no strong assaulters for PvP. If you can get some vanguard-friendly zan (hyorin is the cheapest) then I would advice you to focus on vanguard and make him your main PvP force (without neglecting raijin if you get her of course) while others will be mainly for PvE and change it once you get muken.

6.) Also, gained the potential to upgrade rank to 5th Captain where it starts to cost you 5k prestige daily. Should I just continue to up my rank normally, or bank prestige for 2-3 months until I can get to something like Zero Division for the damage rate and avoid injury rate to be more noticable?

Unless you really need that extra stats (or partners slots) I would advice you to wait with upgrading rank until you have enough prestige for mugetsu, that way you won't only get boost that this rank provides faster but you will also get pretty neat title a lot faster.

7.) Was recruiting Harribel a good investment since she earns 26 mod frags daily which I can eventually use to inherit for universals? Also, is it best to inherit at mod 4 or wait until max modify level is reached?

Both harribel and urahara are best for farming mod frags (tho at this point you probably need urahara for easy T1) so getting both of them is indeed good idea

, about when to inherit it's pretty much up to you, no matter if you will inherit every time when you hit 4th, 5th or 7th mod at the end of day gain of mod frags will be the same but if you will wait longer you will have to use inherit less times and it will be cheaper that way so my advice is to wait until 7th mod unless inheriting earlier will give you enough frags to upgrade somebody's modification

8.) Soul Cultivation - Should I put an extra 5 - 7.5mil silver daily into it or am I still at a point where I should continue to focus everything on reitsu+gear enhance. Also figured I'd clear the stones first then exclusively get exclusive frags right?

Whether you can put extra silver to SC depends on your income, if you can do it without neglecting reiatsu and gear enhance (would be good if at least one partner has all parts of gear maxed out whole the time and all your weapons are maxed for PvE) then why not?about order of getting SC rewards (assuming that you don't need any partner from there and you may consider getting cute orihime for PvE) it should be lvl 10 stones>lvl 11 stones> lvl 12 stone>exclusive frags (endlessly)

9.) Wish I searched forums about protection stones earlier because I just found out today that buying one permanately protects all your gears of that level . In other words, for 100g I can now easily max infuse all my Aquarias and firelord gear without resistance . Are there any other little game mechanics like this that I might not have realized ?

1. Register without partners at first day of csb season to be place at lower ranks and have easier wins.
2. In Tournament of Throne last bracket is only for reincarnated people, this bracket is for strongest people in your realm (or rather with highest BP) so if you don't feel like one of them better don't reincarnate and enjoy rewards from previous bracket, being not reincarnated will put you at disadvantage against reincarnated people but possible rewards in ToT are more than worth it
3.On your current lvl it doesn't matter but once (or rather if) you reincarnate you can inherit reincarnation of your partners, so in case you are already high lvl and get new partner (muken let's say) rather than slowly getting his lvl up you can rent some cheap partner from karakura festival so that he is your lvl, reincarnate him and then inherit, you will need to spend 50 gold and you will lose quite a lot of reincarnation stones but you will get great amount of exp books which will let you lvl up your new characters a lot faster
4. When recruiting someone from swp instead of losing reishi you gain some

so don't stop until you catch them all

5. When your reiatsu lvl is multiplicator of 11 there is a lot bigger chance for major critical hit (instant lvl up)when using reiatsu cultivating pill than on other lvls, I'm not sure if it works like that after reiatsu lvl 100 tho

author: Zeta75 time: 2017-9-8 15:30:41

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2017-9-8 14:37
Right so you seem already set generally so that's great, apologies if any of this is already answere ...

Honestly thank you, I really appreciate you taking the time to go through all my points in such detail. There were several I still wanted opinions on and you definitely cleared them all and added to ones I have already discussed.

Also, like you said, patience and planning your end game is key in these games. Still on the fence with Rajin as I might try to continue topping up through bankai power and slowly save until I have enough for Jakka or a newer Orange support, but I'll figure that out eventually.

Thank you again

author: Zeta75 time: 2017-9-8 16:11:28

Edited by Zeta75 at 2017-9-8 16:12

Miken97 replied at 2017-9-8 15:12
If you aren't going to upgrade shin grimmjow into pantera then it's worth to get kenpachi (he is no ...

Thank you very much for taking the time to give such detailed, helpful responses and for giving extra tips as well which will definitely be used

.

Yes, I'll save gold by topping up during bankai power until I have enough for her, a new orange support, or Jakka. As you said, once I get mod 5 on Kisuke in about a month I could t1 4/5 of my team easily if I wanted so building up for pure t1 until I do get that partner will be easier.

Also yes the 1500 point treasure box reward, at least last time around, gave you the cyclone ultimate set which was a nice boost for the extra stones and sets in a new server.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-9-8 17:24:31

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2017-9-8 17:26

Hey, I give a lot of advice, usually it's good, sometimes I"m a miss so take it for what it's worth and understand most of this is only my opinion...

And I'll keep them numbered like yours to keep it straight to myself...

~~first off, judging from what you have said all together I assume you are at least VIP4, or will end up there sooner or later, so my advice is for people at least VIP1...

1) Kenny's block rate can for real be a big deal if you don't have the stones to get all 3 of your PVE assaulters to cap block rate (and in fact you should do everything to raise their block rates to the max it can be to boost pve damage madly, change refines on equipment, stones, mods...  for events, 100% should be considered all you will need, even after buffs are applied as I don't believe that ES or Ryoka have any form of break defense...  and rather than even a red Tavern Kenpachi and Tenjiro, I feel that Pantera Grimjaw and Cute Orihime will do MUCH MUCH MUCH more damage, and cute orihime is there for fury gain and status effects, so to get good results from her she needs no real work what-so-ever to add a ton of damage...  However, if you did pick up Byaukua, got his exclusive skill, and his death mod you would then have the best tavern assaulter in the game full stop...  he's solid in pvp, great in pve (very similar to Ikkaku's skill in fact only you can make it stronger) and his death mod is fan freaking tastic for weaker players in void, not to mention it does help in pvp and later Ryoka as well usually

2) The set has showen up in Reio like that the last few times it has came around, I'd guess it's here to stay for a while at least

3) SA can be a huge boost, and if i were in your shoes, I'd spend 100% of my vit (except what I may spend in Reio) saving for SA, and hit every other one to get at least top 10 in ranking (I have Shini welfare and if I spend 100 coupons on vit a day I can usually get top 10 every cycle of SA...  also, places 1-3 rewards is less than double of 4-10 ranks, so if you can get top 10 every time vs #1 every other time, rewards are still better to get two 10th places, plus you will end up getting about 2 to 4k more vit to spend in the event too as your vit grows much faster when it's empty... My guess, Katen might show up 2019, maybe 2020 in UBP

4) Rajin is very good for sure...  Yhwach is a monster and IMO stronger...  check this out to blow your mind... Yhwach, Muken, Main 8th skill, Kiuske, Cute Orihime in pve...unless you get lucky and pick up someone like Isane Kotetsu as her buff stacks with Yhwach and Muken I believe you can raise that damage much much more I'd wager...  Retsu Kenpachi is (anywhere near her price range) possibly the most vicious pve support in the game...  her 400% damage rate is insane, plus she boosts break def of all supports which is nice vs stacked vangs (along with her insane kido damage which most vangs don't take well), add to that her invurln status effect and she can (if built right) be hella tough for most to deal with... also, if you face a large number of well built vanguards, there is always Bankai Rukia who is any vanguards worst nightmare (save maybe Human Kommomura)

5)B Renji has already shown up in UBP 3 or 4 times, good chance he won't come back...  White Ichigo is a great partner, he's in KTF, plus his price is now 10k total, which is insane for what you get...  Byaukua is hands down the best assaulter from tavern for real...  Yhwach would be nice if you can justify the cost for a part time partner endgame.

6) Some save for mugetsu, I upgraded as I got the points because that reminder is so fucking annoying it isn't even something i can put into words

7) I mod all tavern partners and the one I'm currently working to mod and just inheret them down when I'm ready to mod an event partner...  of course to get the most out of your gold fully mod before you inheret down

8) I spend 26M silver a day on it (less when i get free gold reward)  I got all the stone rewards after i got a few exclusive ones...  first few rewards I'd pick up the lowest level socket stone packs...  each pack can fully socket one set of Aquaria gear (with only one weapon), after 5 of those (you do plan to get 5x ultimate sets, right? and plan to fully socket them all dirt cheap, right?  right!) pick up the stone rewards after that, then exclusives... prob start pumping more than 3x of the 10x claims (if that makes sense) after your daily silver intake passes 50M or so silver...  bring your reiatsu to 60 or 70 for now at least, and gear levels will be much easier after you get shuntara's gear (level stays when you upgrade it!!)

9) protection stones are probably the best value in the game these days, next would be shuntara's upgraded gear (which you got your protection stone for) make sure you socket and spirit infuse the gear when it's still Aquaria as the cost goes up VERY fast with each upgrade

biggest tip in the game...  the more times you change partners and inheret from one to the next, the weaker you will be in the long run...  pick a tactic, pick a team, build it, upgrade it when you must

also, everything in this game is a long grind, gold speeds things up some, but even then it's a long grind...  make sure you dot your I's and cross your T's every day...
oh, and Starrk is just not very good these days... I know he's your favorate, however, once you hit VIP5 (which sounds like you will/are) Noza crushes Starrk no questions (sorry Zento)... Toshi is even a much better vang than Starrk... Noza, TSI, Kukaku...  these are the 3 "cheaper" vangs that will be worth it for you IMO

author: Zeta75 time: 2017-9-8 18:14:20

Edited by Zeta75 at 2017-9-8 18:37

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-9-8 17:24
Hey, I give a lot of advice, usually it's good, sometimes I"m a miss so take it for what it's worth ...

Thank you, I have seen many of your posts around forums so I do trust what you have to say as well.

A) I actually am currently VIP5 so Noza is definitely something to work for...I haven't invested anything into toshiro so is switching to Red Stark that big a deal until I can upgrade Noza or is non upgraded swp Kenny still on par/better than Red Stark/Toshiro?

B) After day 6 of Reio, I should have 5 shuntara upgraded sets (currently have 3 all lvl 60 still), and of course now that I have the infuse stone I plan on maxing infuse first

.  I did upgrade 8 pieces to lvl 60 Firelord to have 4-2 on my VG/Main, but the  cost for socket 1 and 2 seems the same and protection stone still works on them so I assume it's fine to upgrade to 4-2 on my second Assault as well?
         Also thanks didn't even notice page 2 rewards in soul cultivation as the stones and 1k frags are nice and all, but at this point they won't provide too much
         Edit - Knowing my luck I'd probably get Dodge and Counter stones anyway

C) Yeah that notification is already on my nerves

so might just rank up anyway since our server is only a month old (merge shouldn't be for a while right?), and I should be able to maintain rank 2.

D) In terms of topping up, through surveys I could manage probably 600 base gold a week which would get boosted by 100% rebate. Obviously I'd only top up during bankai power so I had some gold aside to renew shinigami agent when needed at this point, outside of that I figured I'd save until I could do a 20k top up eventually, which set of events would be the best to do a large top up like that? I'd like to get either something like Jakka or a new Orange support eventually...I'll put my faith in byakuya for assaults until Muken

I guess if Ultra Hero pops up with any recommened events that would be the best time...though I doubt the events would line up like that.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-9-8 18:46:46

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author: Zeta75 time: 2017-9-8 19:16:12

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-9-8 18:46
since when did we start writing essays

Since Essay-kun joined the forum I suppose. [attach]20360[/attach]

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-9-8 21:55:28

Zeta75 replied at 2017-9-8 18:14
Thank you, I have seen many of your posts around forums so I do trust what you have to say as well. ...

SWP Kenny is decent in pvp, prob around H Ichi in raw power, plus his block rate is above average for sure, in pve he's very good in fact with his high damage rate, plus any upgrades you make to him will transfer and intensify over to Noza, if you are even possibly going Noza, I see no reason not to go to Shin Shura...

if you don't see a difference on first set of gear to upgrade, second set should be fine as well, maybe start with weapon just to test as with 5x sets, surely you have an extra aquaria weapon just in case, and page two was my jam for several months

I'm 500,000 from Mugetsu and have been rank 2 since someone on our server got RJ and TSI XD

Big top up? Christmas is usually a FANTASTIC set of events... but any holiday can potentially give you something truly outstanding for a top up... not long ago I heard of a person that got RJ and a zero division support for $400 if I'm not mistaken

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2017-9-9 16:04:27

Zeta75 replied at 2017-9-8 20:30
Honestly thank you, I really appreciate you taking the time to go through all my points in such de ...

Oh you're welcome anytime ^^Oh Ryujin Jakka is a very worthy purchase that you should definitely consider as a 100% confirmed purchase down the line. But I would indeed wait for what kind of formation you've built though, as Ryujin only works effectively with tanky teams or teams that are great with sustained damage, so i'd wait on Ryujin until you know what kind of future you have in terms of partners ^^

Crap I apologise I forgot to mention about Katen in UBP.
If you were to create some sort of "tier list", Katen is in the very top of those alongside Kyoka, Ryujin and Minazuki (potentially Tensa if you want to view him that way).

Since she's part of that list you can't expect them to be available in UBP so soon, however Katen is indeed quite a specific team zanpakuto, made for EXTREMELY offensive teams who don't work on defence but just offence, so even the supporters found in this team are dangerous and are dealing high damage alongside the natural damage dealing assaulters, meaning she could potentially enter UBP soon, especially with their release of Hikifune who pairs up with Katen and Tensa who is also a top tier zanpakuto.
One way UBP partners/zanpakutos are chosen is on how far we are in the timeline of the game, meaning how useful everything is generally. Meaning any specific formation partner has a guaranteed spot to enter UBP pretty much, just like how Shinigami Kensei came in UBP after such a short time. This of course led to Hiki & Tensa's arrival in UBP too as generally their uses have diminished compared to what we can get now.

Another way they decide on partners is the overall sale of them. Now this isn't exactly something they 100% take into and decide whether or not someone should be in UBP or not, as I mentioned, Hiki appeared, which almost every spender has obtained whether they are new or old, so she is continuously bought to this date, but it is a deciding factor. Same for Katen in this way, she is still purchasable for many players but not as purchased as Hiki, especially since she's a specific formation zanpakuto, and with the way this game is progressing in UBP and the game as a whole, you could expect her some time in the near future, at least 2018, especially when she was only created in the part of a "meta" of supports who one-shot the enemy team, a.k.a the Zero Division team (Katen + Oetsu/Hiki/Senju etc.), and that has long gone by now, so Katen's relevance is not so strong anymore, she just has potential to enter UBP ^^

TL;DR - Get Ryujin if you know you're obtaining defensive, sustained in damage/defence partners in the future.
Katen can potentially enter UBP some time in the future due to her relevancy and purchase amount, she's an offence-team specific formation, and with the way UBP & the game is going, you can expect her in the near future in at least 2018, definitely in that year, that is if UBP continues to be a monthly event ^^

author: Zeta75 time: 2017-9-10 09:33:00

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2017-9-9 16:04
Oh you're welcome anytime ^^Oh Ryujin Jakka is a very worthy purchase that you should definitely co ...

Thanks, I assumed Katen was a glass cannon style Zan. I was just curious about her because I figured until I got Jakka, or Kyoka if I don't top up, she would be more beneficial to me for PVE than Tensa.

I am saving vit with UBP in mind, but will probably spam SA instead so when I get my end game partners they will provide more of a boost. I'm not familiar with the frequency of SA vs UBP, but if SA normally comes a week or two after UBP that would be good timing. I'd probably maintain 4k vit by the end of SA since 6k a month comes pretty easy as VIP w/ shini agent. [attach]20361[/attach]

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2017-9-10 14:24:30

Zeta75 replied at 2017-9-10 14:33
Thanks, I assumed Katen was a glass cannon style Zan. I was just curious about her because I figu ...

If you don't have great partners now, I would definitely go UBP first then SA, especially with the partners they're currently releasing being unknown and simply progressing on how great they are, and with the state that you're in you can secure a future team from what it seems to have no future right now, then you've actually got stones etc. to put on good partners for the future, but either way works depends on how patient you are

The vit events to tend to come back-to-back yea, although it seems it's more SA first then UBP when looking at history of event rotations, so hopefully it can come afterwards for this great timing ^^

She is indeed quite heavily PVE focused and absolutely dominates PVE in comparison to Tensa. I wouldn't recommend it as a placeholder though, if Ryujin is a confirmed purchase later in the future then it would be a waste of resources to obtain Katen, since that Zanpakuto is effective in every PVE situation except Void, while Ryujin works in every PVE situation including Void, it's best to obtain Katen to keep and use as a main zanpakuto than have it as a placeholder ^^

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