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author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-9-24 15:00:16 Title: Zanpacto Bonuses

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2017-9-24 15:53

Today I was messing around and came across something that blew my mind...

The following pics were taken today, of the same partner, and the only difference is I changed Zanpactos and refreshed the page...

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the speed seems to scale about where I'd expect, but that strat attack kind of blows me away... sogyo is giving 4k from fortifys and gives 21% more than Hyorin does, yet with Hyroin my attack is noticably higher... I put muramasa here to show how he scales too as the other well fortified zan I have to make sure it wasn't just sogyo or Hyorin...

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just to show how much is comming from this, Hyorin only gives def and HP from this so I didn't post a pic of that

~edit~
Forgot to ask my question, lol

Is this normal and I am missing something or is this something else all together?

further testing... with my Byaukua, his physical attack only goes up 4,000 between Hyorin and Sogyo... again, Hyorin has no physical attack bonus for assaulters anywhere listed on him... I"m really starting to wonder here... TSI's attack went UP by 4k when i swapped from Hyorin to Sogyo...

author: blackdragon626 time: 2017-9-24 15:42:51

that is normal

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-9-24 15:44:37

blackdragon626 replied at 2017-9-24 15:42
that is normal

so the listed stat bonus given from a zanpacto is crap?

author: ShadowMurcielago time: 2017-9-24 18:26:10

Zanpakutou have Two Bonus - First is the % Speed / Damage Rate / HP / Avoid Injury / Recovery Rate in each formation, and the 3 Random Attributes (That are upgraded with soul of conquest) These 3 goes for everyone in your team, so the ones with Speed will make more difference in battle power

author: blackdragon626 time: 2017-9-24 19:05:53

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-9-24 15:44
so the listed stat bonus given from a zanpacto is crap?

no the buffs are fine it is just normal to see that difference between three zans that work for different play styles.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-9-24 20:24:15

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author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-9-25 09:22:22

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-9-24 20:24
checked this myself with speed as the main thing i was looking at

for ultima it barely changed whi ...

but then any idea of why the BP changes so much with different zans?

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-9-25 09:23:29

blackdragon626 replied at 2017-9-24 19:05
no the buffs are fine it is just normal to see that difference between three zans that work for di ...

my issue was that Hyroin doesn't boost any attack on anyone, yet sogyo (who says he buffs 21%) ends me up with lower attack than my Hyorin did... it makes no sense... just trying to figure out WTF

author: Miken97 time: 2017-9-25 10:05:44

sogyo gives 21% damage rate tho, not attack, those are different stats

as for why shinso has higher attack with hyorin than with fortified sogyo, maybe it's because hyorin gives higher reiatsu bonus (hyorin give +130% and sogyo +124%, if your reiatsu is high enough it should make significant difference and make it plausible that shinso has higher attack with hyorin), not sure why difference between shinso's attack with hyorin and with muramasa is so small tho as muramasa provides 6k kido attack from fortify and they both provide same reiatsu bonus

maybe it's just miscalculation in game, sometimes I have to refresh page like 2 or 3 times to see true stats of my partners

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-9-25 10:59:05

Miken97 replied at 2017-9-25 10:05
sogyo gives 21% damage rate tho, not attack, those are different stats
as for why shinso has high ...

... 21% damage rate, not attack... that makes sense and its disappointing for me to not have caught that...
Reiatsu bonus difference... again, good catch, and again, disappointing I didn't catch that either...

thanks for helping to fix that baking noodle I had going on there!! so I wonder what my pve damage will do with Hyorin vs Sogyo... still wager Sogyo will be higher but it's for sure worth a look!!

author: Asian123 time: 2017-9-25 11:15:25

Jam it man shut up (no offence)
Don't let the devs know of this bug

been using it for a long time wouldn't want it fixed now

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-9-25 12:49:00

Asian123 replied at 2017-9-25 11:15
Jam it man shut up (no offence)
Don't let the devs know of this bug
been using it for a long tim ...

Doesn't seem to be a bug, plus revs never see anything on forums anyway

author: [email protected] time: 2017-9-26 03:35:03

his attack did not go up when switching to Sogyo, atk is 431k with Hyo. and 428k with Sogyo. The attack went down. check the Zanpakuto Growth Rate. That's another factor.

I still am interested if anyone has the actual algorithm to the game's damage logic.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-9-26 03:37:07

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-9-24 20:24
checked this myself with speed as the main thing i was looking at

for ultima it barely changed whi ...

this makes sense to only apply in battle but you have them materialized so it should be showing the proper stat bonuses and increases in the partner menu, if it doesn't it is considered a bug.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-9-26 03:39:49

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-9-25 09:22
but then any idea of why the BP changes so much with different zans?

provide a better example first off is what my first thought was, atleast provide some form of data between zanpakuto you have as proof of your point.

First the zanpakuto class explains the higher range of BP you can gain.
Next, if they are the same class you look at the Growth Rates for each Zanpakuto
Then, Compare the bonuses that they can gain and see how much BP you gain for one level of that stat increase seen as Battle Power.Rinse and repeat and you will have your answer.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-9-26 03:44:24

Growth Rate is Higher for the following stats Speed/agi, Attack, and HP/Stamina. you can do an easy test with a low level hogyoku to determine how much BP is affected by the stats themselves using smaller integers.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-9-26 09:04:54

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2017-9-26 09:25

[email protected] replied at 2017-9-26 03:39
provide a better example first off is what my first thought was, atleast provide some form of data ...

the answer was already put... the damage rate I read wrong to mean attack power, I was wrong...

the BP change was almost totally from speed and reiatsu bonus...

it makes Hyorin a MUCH better zan than I was thinking... not near as big a handicap for my team as I thought he was

however, thanks for the input!!

author: [email protected] time: 2017-9-29 10:20:28

Hyorin is a badass. ive noticed the same thing as you have its got no speed upgrade and its faster then the ones i have that do have it.

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