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author: Darkhhour time: 2017-9-29 23:43:42 Title: Advice for offensive VG

Trying to power up my Demon ichigo and looking for a bit of feedback/tips for making him a beast

Few images:

1. I know i need to improve hogyokou levels/quality
2. his assist mod soul is mayuri lvl. 51, i have minazuki or shinji i could use instead if those would be better.
3. Main support is 67 exlusive, once it hits 70 i'll likely work on demon with that
4. t11 str+4 hogu and t11+0 stam hogu atm, again working on those slowly via free talismans
5. Plan to get tensa if it ever comes back to ubp

As i said above any advice is welcome and if you have a better demon ichigo please post a screenshot, would love to see some good VG that aren't noza/stark

author: trakiner time: 2017-9-30 00:09:58

Other than that amazing block rate, you should be ashamed of this crappy weak-ass vanguard of yours. At fucking level 152, you fucking suck!
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Check out my Sajin-oh, you can learn a thing or two from a great player like me, sucka! (Only lvl115)

author: razvanomg time: 2017-9-30 00:25:47

trakiner replied at 2017-9-30 00:09
Other than that amazing block rate, you should be ashamed of this crappy weak-ass vanguard of yours. ...

and you think u did a better job than him?
i'm sure his team can take u down easily asshole

author: razvanomg time: 2017-9-30 00:26:59

trakiner replied at 2017-9-30 00:09
Other than that amazing block rate, you should be ashamed of this crappy weak-ass vanguard of yours. ...

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author: [email protected] time: 2017-9-30 00:30:40

razvanomg replied at 2017-9-30 00:26

hehe nice punch

author: [email protected] time: 2017-9-30 00:31:54

this is cute isnt.....

author: trakiner time: 2017-9-30 00:37:22

Edited by trakiner at 2017-9-30 00:38

razvanomg replied at 2017-9-30 00:25
and you think u did a better job than him?
i'm sure his team can take u down easily asshole

LEVEL 115 VS LEVEL 152, OH YEAH, MY TEAM HAVE A REAL CHANCE AGAINST HIS.
You really are a mental retarded sucker, don't you? Yeah, you are!

author: [email protected] time: 2017-9-30 00:41:31

trakiner replied at 2017-9-30 00:37
LEVEL 115 VS LEVEL 152, OH YEAH, MY TEAM HAVE A REAL CHANCE AGAINST HIS.
You really are a mental ...

shut up dude put some work on that komamura see my muken lol i dint spent gold at all hehe my muken can 1 shot KO that fooking vanguard

author: trakiner time: 2017-9-30 00:42:54

[email protected] replied at 2017-9-30 00:41
shut up dude put some work on that komamura see my muken lol i dint spent gold at all hehe my muke ...

Your MOO kenny can one-shot a damn whole lot stuff on this game. That's an overpowered partner build to one-shot almost everything, DU'H!

author: [email protected] time: 2017-9-30 00:45:19

trakiner replied at 2017-9-30 00:42
Your MOO kenny can one-shot a damn whole lot stuff on this game. That's an overpowered partner bui ...

that kenny aint mine dude muken is mine.... ur arguing against tthe wrong guy

author: razvanomg time: 2017-9-30 00:48:20

trakiner replied at 2017-9-30 00:42
Your MOO kenny can one-shot a damn whole lot stuff on this game. That's an overpowered partner bui ...

if you're so proud of your team

put some shits and show us what u got bitch

author: trakiner time: 2017-9-30 00:48:54

[email protected] replied at 2017-9-30 00:45
that kenny aint mine dude muken is mine.... ur arguing against tthe wrong guy

MOO-KEN, MOO-KENNY... I just called Muken Mookenny, dude. Damn!

author: [email protected] time: 2017-9-30 00:50:37

trakiner replied at 2017-9-30 00:48
MOO-KEN, MOO-KENNY... I just called Muken Mookenny, dude. Damn!

haha sry abt that i dont understand those short cuts yet

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-9-30 01:28:18

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author: SolKnight time: 2017-9-30 01:38:44

Edited by SolKnight at 2017-9-30 10:14

Ok some Tips:
1:Drop the Dodge stones those arent going to do it many favors cause you need to be hit for block to be activated and lets be honest bypassing 90% dodge isnt a big achievement so they are P much just taking up space.
2:Put on more Wisdom and alot more hit stones.
3:i see you have a a full dark set instead of using a complete set use the pieces of 4 Blaze and 2 Dark and always use a 4/2 setup even when you upgrade as speed and combo would not be doing most vans much favor and having more immune and damage rate will do you better at surviving and damage dealing.
4:Mayuri mod soul is fine but if you want him to be more on the damage dealing side minazuki is more usefull and shinji just dont even bother.

author: Darkhhour time: 2017-9-30 02:19:10

SolKnight replied at 2017-9-30 01:38
Ok some Tips:
1rop the Dodge stones those arent going to do it many favors cause you need to be hi ...

Hey thanks for the input, i do plan on upgrading the belt/weapon to blaze soon and i didn't think to drop dodge even though i stacked block so high (tbh he never dodges anyway) so i'll throw in some more hit/wis and most likely swap the mod soul after i get tensa since zangetsu is reducing his damage 40% atm anyway

author: trakiner time: 2017-9-30 06:55:25

SolKnight replied at 2017-9-30 01:38
Ok some Tips:
1rop the Dodge stones those arent going to do it many favors cause you need to be hi ...

WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP, STFU SUCKER!!!

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-9-30 07:30:40

[email protected] replied at 2017-9-30 00:41
shut up dude put some work on that komamura see my muken lol i dint spent gold at all hehe my muke ...

shin shura kenpachi says you are VIP1 at least XD good looking muken for sure tho

author: [email protected] time: 2017-9-30 07:32:09

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-9-30 07:30
shin shura kenpachi says you are VIP1 at least XD good looking muken for sure tho

thnks mylar san i am still working on it

author: Xallog time: 2017-9-30 07:33:21

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author: rythen time: 2017-9-30 07:34:12

replace dodge rate its easy to reach 200% hit rate also the game mechanic prioritize dodge over block so each time someone dodge it could be a block
add more wisdom for more strategy defense

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-9-30 07:39:06

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2017-9-30 07:40

as previously stated, drop the dodge...

this gear is getting ready to be swapped to Muken when I get him, but it's basicly the same as I've always ran it save I'm working more on agi now than in the past

and I understand this is apples to oranges as he is TSI

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that was all the info I thought you may want... Hyorin is my zan

author: Darkhhour time: 2017-9-30 09:20:47

Thanks guys, nice TSI btw

author: trojandrew time: 2017-9-30 09:50:20

You need more block, i'd change your #2/5/6 mods into block, give him high wis accesories to increase your spirit def.
and you honestly should compare to stark as dichigo is the upgrade to him.

work on getting a zan that has 0% dmg reduction for your van, so senbon, hyorin, tensa. tbh tensa's mod on dichigo isnt great but it is a good overall zan, very balanced.
im showing noza for block and imunity rates (also b/c im getting rid of him soon) and my vip0 stark so you can compare. that stark doenst have much exlusive but being 40 lvls lower his stats being the same, you have room to ramp up.

author: trakiner time: 2017-9-30 10:23:36

Xallog replied at 2017-9-30 07:33
>When you don't have any good advice because all your ideas come from Mylar so you just tell someo ...

Mills, care to shut this faggot Xallog up, please bro?

author: Xallog time: 2017-9-30 10:56:41

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author: Darkhhour time: 2017-9-30 11:13:55

Thanks Trojandrew, i actually have all mods currently on block with 10-12%, considering resetting 1st n 4th mod but my block's not quite high enough as it is now.. also planning on getting tensa soon so i have my hyorin benched with no fortify atm.

Also does anyone know the actual 2 set bonus stats for sets? my Hiki's Azure 2 set says +0.24 dmg rate/immune rate... but the wiki says 24% for both, Which of these are actually correct? if it's the latter.. is it worth going 2/2/2 (140/130/110) as an end goal on vanguard?

author: trojandrew time: 2017-9-30 13:07:41

Darkhhour replied at 2017-9-30 11:13
Thanks Trojandrew, i actually have all mods currently on block with 10-12%, considering resetting 1s ...

honestly you just need the def and the immunity mods, rest for block are good. for the sets, i run 4/2 so you get the immunity from both, running full 6 on van isnt great unless youre going for more dmg since u'll lose out on some immunity

author: thomaslon time: 2017-9-30 13:22:18

trakiner replied at 2017-9-30 11:55
WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP, STFU SUCKER!!!

SolKnight gave some valid tips for building good vanguard, you did nothing, just once again throwing insults everywhere...so if u think its load of crap, u r the sucker here..

author: TemmieHOI time: 2017-9-30 13:29:53

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-9-30 01:28
guys dont make me bring out a bankai kenny

plz

i wanna see that bkenny plz

author: trakiner time: 2017-9-30 13:45:10

thomaslon replied at 2017-9-30 13:22
SolKnight gave some valid tips for building good vanguard, you did nothing, just once again throwi ...

Are you dumb? I did! Check my Sajin and learn how to build a great tavern vanguard.

author: Potdenutella time: 2017-9-30 14:13:21

>love to see some good VG that aren't noza/stark*TRIGGERED*

D.Ichigo is an upgraded version of Starrk, any stacked Starrk can play D.Ichigo pretty well.
Like the advices earlier, just drop the dodge stones for AGI or WIS, if your D.Ichigo is stacked (i doubt at your level) just put the fury stones to make him pure T1.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-9-30 16:01:36

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author: thomaslon time: 2017-9-30 16:32:23

trakiner replied at 2017-9-30 18:45
Are you dumb? I did! Check my Sajin and learn how to build a great tavern vanguard.

You don't have anything to teach me...What is so damn smart and difficult about throwing every resource u get on a single partner? Nothing at all...It can be useful, but even the dumbest ppl like yourself can do it..Nothing special..

author: TemmieHOI time: 2017-10-1 12:31:49

for an off. vanguard, do you need to switch your mods to make them all block mods?

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-10-1 12:52:14

TemmieHOI replied at 2017-10-1 12:31
for an off. vanguard, do you need to switch your mods to make them all block mods?

depends on the vanguard... personally I find I get a LOT more defense and offense out of a stacked block stat and have stacked mine

author: kukutan time: 2017-10-1 23:37:05

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-9-30 13:39
as previously stated, drop the dodge...

this gear is getting ready to be swapped to Muken when I ge ...

tsi dosent need that much block mods instead make it damage rate since with his bond invincibility dude he will be dancing alot of times not to forget his exclusive will make him a beast 1 hit kill hope it help you

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-10-2 11:26:38

kukutan replied at 2017-10-1 23:37
tsi dosent need that much block mods instead make it damage rate since with his bond invincibilit ...

while I appreciate your advice, my block rate is what makes my TSI such a monster in the first place... damage rate is all good and all, but block is better than damage rate all day long...

also, you said something about his bond invincibility dude... what do you mean by this?

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-10-2 14:46:29

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-10-2 11:26
while I appreciate your advice, my block rate is what makes my TSI such a monster in the first pla ...

TSI has bond with invincibility effect, he has some % chance to trigger invincibility on himself when getting attacked for 1 round. I think max chance to trigger it is 15% when you max out that bond with Ryumon Ikkaku.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-10-2 14:58:03

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-10-2 14:46
TSI has bond with invincibility effect, he has some % chance to trigger invincibility on himself w ...

oh, well ain't nobody got time to get vang Ikkaku for a max of 15% chance to not get hurt one round... especially not even close to willing to drop 60% block rate for 60% damage rate and bank on that 15% that I may or may not be able to pull in within the next 8 or so months of grinding for a vanguard I'd never use in a million years... but it's a good thought... yeah, good times, lol

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-10-2 15:14:13

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-10-2 14:58
oh, well ain't nobody got time to get vang Ikkaku for a max of 15% chance to not get hurt one roun ...

I don't see any use of replacing block mods for damage rate on TSI, I was just saying that he has invincibility bond

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-10-2 20:02:23

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-10-2 15:14
I don't see any use of replacing block mods for damage rate on TSI, I was just saying that he has ...

hey... crazy idea... with Void being... well... voidded... for most due to insane defenses... that takes away most/all of the glow Byaukua has/had.... Am I crazy or do I want to pull back out Shura? My Shura is level 149 and totally inhereted down ATM, but my Byaukua is only level 153 so it's not that big of a rebuild... big strike against him is that my block rate is already capped past 100% on all for pve, and I've got over 8k Inferno stones, plus Shura has a speed bond with Shinso and I'm just way too lazy to mess with bonds every time I want to bring him in or out meaning he's either full time in or full time out...

I think I talked myself out of it...

who is the better strictly pve assaulter, Sexy Yourichi or exclusive skill Byaukua? lol

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-10-3 06:33:53

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-10-2 20:02
hey... crazy idea... with Void being... well... voidded... for most due to insane defenses.. ...

Well you are close to Muken so no need to use Shura. I have same dilema about Byakuya and Sexy, have them both. Thing is your Byakuya has exclusive skill, with it he has more phy attack from bouns (45k), also he has growth rate bonus too and can use tier 12 hogu. On the other hand even if Sexy Yoruichi has less phy attack then Byakuya, she has way better skill then him. Also with high evo, she has great combo rate don't forget that. If you don't miss furry in your team when you get Muken i would just stick with Byakuya. If you need furry builder, just inherit Byakuya, get Sexy Yoruichi to Exclusive Skill lvl 10. It is really cheap to get her to that lvl, you get 15k extra phy attack and some extra growth rate. I would also change her 2,3(if you have already 90% crit), 7 mod to damage rate.

author: HirakoShinji1213 time: 2017-10-3 11:34:09

trakiner replied at 2017-9-30 13:45
Are you dumb? I did! Check my Sajin and learn how to build a great tavern vanguard.

STFU u need to learn to build a real vanguar like this, not your crap weak vang

http://forums.gogames.me/thread-91149-1-1.html

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-10-3 11:53:08

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-10-3 06:33
Well you are close to Muken so no need to use Shura. I have same dilema about Byakuya and Sexy, ha ...

but here is the kicker that makes me want to inheret down Byaukua instead of Yourichi...

byaukua's exclusive level would go to Muken, Sexy is already at level 10... wouldn't need the red name as no warrior hogus would go on her... hell, the only thing she would probably ever do is ES, maybe some Ryoka...

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-10-3 12:38:30

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-10-3 11:53
but here is the kicker that makes me want to inheret down Byaukua instead of Yourichi...

byaukua' ...

Then you got your answer there, inherit him and put all those fragments to Muken Aizen.
In any case your pve dmg will go up with Muken, inheriting Byakuya will make him better for pvp, Sexy Yoruichi should do the roll of back up pve assaulter pretty good.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-10-3 13:01:55

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-10-3 12:38
Then you got your answer there, inherit him and put all those fragments to Muken Aizen.
In any cas ...

that was my thought... thanks bro, sometimes it helps just putting it on "paper" to see it differently, lol

author: rambo1998123 time: 2017-10-6 02:22:09

trakiner replied at 2017-9-30 06:09
Other than that amazing block rate, you should be ashamed of this crappy weak-ass vanguard of yours. ...

Low block, not 90% crit, why put dodge instead of wishdom, would make him more tanky. <-- (ur strat def sucks)

author: trakiner time: 2017-10-6 06:18:39

rambo1998123 replied at 2017-10-6 02:22
Low block, not 90% crit, why put dodge instead of wishdom, would make him more tanky.

No wisdom because dogs are stupid! BA TUM DSS! HAHAHAH! (DO'H!) Thx for you advice, dude!

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