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author: [email protected] time: 2017-10-21 15:18:31 Title: Which red (old) supporter is most suitable for Muken Aizen ?

I wanna do a 2:2:1 team ( supp-supp : main-Muken : Noza ), which supporters do you think will work best with Muken ?

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-10-21 16:24:26

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author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-10-21 17:36:54

Hikifune + Oetsu is a sick combo IMO... Isane Kotetsu + Shy Nemu would capitilize on Muken's insane power... I'm quite sure that shield cures/prevents chaos, if this is the case, Elegant Unohana + Senjumaru would help prevent that whole chaosed Muken one shotting you, plus you would get the attack and speed bonus on middle row from unohana, plus Senju would boost your supports overall, plus after Unohana drains 10+15 fury from foes, Senju would fury restrict them delaying their skill even longer, just to add some gravy to the combo...

who you get would for sure depend on what overall strategy you wanted to have...

also, for pve, Hikifune is probably the best older red assaulter in the game IMO with her boosts to your team's raw power

author: [email protected] time: 2017-10-22 00:26:42

yup, I hope to recruit someone from UBP who is suitable with Muken and Kyoka Suigetsu (I've been half way to get her already) in PvP
There are many players got Muken or had strong characters with immune invincible in their team at my rank in CSB so I think Hikifune won't have much effect

author: BurrakuRaijja time: 2017-10-22 03:02:15

if no hiki-get Bankai Urahara-he's gcgyver of this game him and hashwichs(i cant spell,Lol) They are the two best for muken-especially Urahara..But i seen u said ur waiting for ubp..almost if not none on ur list is on ubp..but what do i know anywho these two arent either so i thought id shake it up

author: theunknown404 time: 2017-10-22 03:13:37

You did not specify whether you are concentrating on PvP or PvE in this choice. Hikifune is good PvE, but she otherwise needs to die.

Players vastly undervalue Elegant Unohana. That's okay, though. I and a few top China players will still use her even now.

author: Melkoe time: 2017-10-22 07:14:44

elegant will be a wise choice if u want to play assaulterbased play.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-10-23 11:54:08

Melkoe replied at 2017-10-22 07:14
elegant will be a wise choice if u want to play assaulterbased play.

her shield DOES stop/prevent chaos, right?

author: Asian123 time: 2017-10-23 12:58:59

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-10-23 21:54
her shield DOES stop/prevent chaos, right?

I believe any/every shield you see has that effect.

author: Melkoe time: 2017-10-24 04:29:18

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-10-23 11:54
her shield DOES stop/prevent chaos, right?

yep it prevents you from all control debuffs and fury restriction.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-10-24 08:46:19

Edited by [email protected] at 2017-10-24 08:56

It depend much on your team and whom you face. Elegant Unohana can be nice against Raijin cuz Muken is one of few oranges who is not immune to chaos. But for example i dont have fast Raijins in my realm (beside two top players who is leagues ahead anyway) so i prefer using tavern Unohana for heal on against Bazz-b or Kirinji against other Muken.

Overall top Muken binds are Toshiro or Jugram, maybe Shun-sui works fine aswell but never faced one so dunno how he fare. Out of cheaper supports i'd recomend tavern Unohana, elegant Unohana or Kirinji. Shy Nemu is a better version of Kirinji, but imo that upgrade is not worth 15-20k (unless you plan to make her your main nuker). Ps: I see that your weakest link is VG, if it happens that only your Muken & Noza are left that be an auto loss for you against anyone who has higher hp and RJ.

author: itsme8805 time: 2017-10-24 10:36:30

[email protected] replied at 2017-10-24 08:46
It depend much on your team and whom you face. Elegant Unohana can be nice against Raijin cuz Muken ...

what your server are you at?

author: [email protected] time: 2017-10-24 14:25:33

[email protected] replied at 2017-10-24 08:46
It depend much on your team and whom you face. Elegant Unohana can be nice against Raijin cuz Muken ...

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US
oppoment with higher HP and RJ but nope if I go first

author: theunknown404 time: 2017-10-24 21:21:55

One problem with Elegant Unohana is her lack of silence/chaos immunity when naturally faster partners have those control effects (chaos can be fully countered with Haschwalth at least, but he too is not immune to silence). However, her skill is only like half of what makes her good.

Besides her halo, if you can make her tank some physical attacks, she lowers the attacker's phy def by 50%. She also has a bond passive that can stun an attacker by chance if you feel like building on that one. (Valkyrie has a better version of this for a mod. The enemy it stuns is random, but that can be good because it's not necessarily wasted on the one who just attacked.)

author: [email protected] time: 2017-10-25 17:17:05

Edited by [email protected] at 2017-10-25 17:50

[email protected] replied at 2017-10-24 14:25
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=4506599023415311&aid=68&t=1&lang=en_US
oppoment wit ...

That's just a phrone opponent, later on you will lose quite often because of that. I dont have strong enough Noza in arena for a good example, but overall your fights against RJ+VG will look like this: http://mybankai.game.ggcorp.me/f ... ;t=1&lang=en_Eu
In other words - Both Noza & Aizen will regain full fury and you wont deal any damage thx to fossile while RJ is gona burn you to ashes.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-10-25 17:23:36

itsme8805 replied at 2017-10-24 10:36
what your server are you at?

At eu121, why?

author: [email protected] time: 2017-10-25 22:55:27

Edited by [email protected] at 2017-10-26 21:23

[email protected] replied at 2017-10-25 17:17
That's just a phrone opponent, later on you will lose quite often because of that. I dont have stro ...

If the oppoment has same BP as me, my Aizen and Noza can restore enough HP to survive after take effect from RJ and I just wait for the turn when Muken regain his own fury, not for Noza (it's 50%) then give the finish hit in next round. Or simply I can switch Noza to tavern Unohana in your case .

If the oppoment has higher BP, that'll be a hard battle anyway
btw Noza is the best free vanguard the game gave me, I don't have any vanguard good as him to use so there isn't a choice

P/s : that isn't a prone opponent, his BP is 9m5 and his Muken is a monster with BP is nearly 4m, higher than mine. I wouldn't win against him if Kirinji couldn't cast chaos or void on his Muken
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=4508987025429615&aid=68&t=1&lang=en_US

author: [email protected] time: 2017-10-26 16:49:30

Edited by [email protected] at 2017-10-26 16:53

[email protected] replied at 2017-10-25 22:55
If the oppoment has same BP as me, my Aizen and Noza can restore enough HP to survive after take ef ...

Ichibei from ubp and H.Ichigo are more well rounded. In your case instead of puting cash on a supporter i would get Kukkaku or Bankai Koma (i think they droped him to 20k in some events now). Noza regain 100 fury or 150 fury on crit, Aizen regain 70 own + 70 ally fury or 115 fury on crit - its not effective with fossile.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-10-26 21:11:12

Nope, Noza's skill is "randomly recover 100 points fury's an ally", there is rounds when Muken regain 105 fury pts for himself then Noza cast skill but give 100 fury pts for Muken and empty his fury bar or sometimes Noza get stun so the fossile can't be cast continously

And I think Human Koma won't appear in UBP soon, his price and stats is nearly same as Bankai Kenpachi, Kukaku isn't better than Noza. My priority now is recruiting some good supporters to replace my tavern Kisuke, he's very suck when battle with strong oppoments

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