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Title: Tavern is shit and we all know it. [Print this page]

author: Melonraider321 time: 2017-11-15 22:43:21 Title: Tavern is shit and we all know it.

Tavern is designed to lose, u prob get around a 15% chance to win instead of 50%. My question for the statistica person is, how much silver to get 1k gold reishi?

author: easymoney2906 time: 2017-11-16 05:32:31

Around 70m, it can take you more or less silver depending on your luck.

author: chaoschief time: 2017-11-16 13:17:35

if you're Lv159, you get a daily income of around 60-70mil silver, its like nothing

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-11-16 15:28:13

your win rate should be about 33.3%... you only have a logical one in three chance to win... with auto 10x janken in level 110 tavern, I average 35 reishi per 1.5M silver spent...

author: Melonraider321 time: 2017-11-16 16:53:29

Mylar u seem to not know about tavern janken that well, u would think its a 33 percent win rate when really they programmed it to be like 10 percent

author: Melonraider321 time: 2017-11-16 16:57:17

Also how much red reishi is it to get kisuke and ikkaku to red tier? I have around 1300

author: TheAnimeAdmiral time: 2017-11-16 20:56:10

Melonraider321 replied at 2017-11-16 16:57
Also how much red reishi is it to get kisuke and ikkaku to red tier? I have around 1300

1400 exactly, any tavern partner costs 700 for full upgrade, besides, you did do the witch house even for red reishi right? you can get 2k per event there

author: trojandrew time: 2017-11-16 22:54:37

on average for 10x janken you get between 25-35 gold reishi, i've had it were i've gotten under 10 and above 60 before, but 25-35 is the average, and i've spent Billions of silver in there

author: henriquezinhopro time: 2017-11-17 06:00:01

You just gotta figure out the patterns ... randomly clicking will obviously cost you a lot of silver
For me i only spend between 45-60 mil to get a partner

author: rambo1998123 time: 2017-11-17 06:07:24

Melonraider321 replied at 2017-11-16 22:57
Also how much red reishi is it to get kisuke and ikkaku to red tier? I have around 1300

do which house and get free 200 red reishi chest, don't need to do all that janken

author: X-Zero13 time: 2017-11-17 11:25:45

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-11-16 15:28
your win rate should be about 33.3%... you only have a logical one in three chance to win... wit ...

Assuming that the AI's choices are randomly generated, the winning chance is actually 50%... since a tie results in a free re-try, u effectively can only win or lose. But that's just numbers...

What I actually wanna say: I've been told once that no matter what u actually klick, the chance for winning is pre-determined by the game - and it increases with the higher lvl jankens. Doing janken vs the lv 110 partners has a higher success rate than janken against the lv 70 partners. And judging by my own experience, this seems to be true. Out of lazyness, I usually janken vs the lv 110 partners now and feel like I've a rather good success rate. But when I janken for purple reishi, it feels likie I need ages to actually get one win.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-11-17 11:28:20

X-Zero13 replied at 2017-11-17 11:25
Assuming that the AI's choices are randomly generated, the winning chance is actually 50%... since ...

I could for sure see some level of bias... especially in the level 70 tavern

author: kinghollow1 time: 2017-11-17 17:36:52

Edited by kinghollow1 at 2017-11-17 22:46

My guess is they follow a pattern that changes with your wins and loses (draws also) becouse i found that kenpachi at lvl 90 tavern has a higher chance of going rock first and scissors as his secondary choice and rarely using paper (i simply got reishi becouse i "kinda" figured out what are kenpachis prefferences in janken)Etc. I use paper and win against kenpachi with rock leading kenpachi to have a higher % to choose scissors instead of rock next time i get him
I dont have any proof of that its just an example how it is to me

And my advice is just find a partners most used first pick, second most used and what he uses after you draw with rock/paper/scissors with him

author: Melonraider321 time: 2017-11-18 08:54:44

X-Zero13 replied at 2017-11-17 11:25
Assuming that the AI's choices are randomly generated, the winning chance is actually 50%... since ...

Yeah, no matter what u click, it already has an outcome for your janken. saying that u got a 50% win rate sounds and is terribly wrong, im sorry to say. It seems like they know which one u r going to pick, then chooses accordingly, maybe 1/5 give u reishi at best.

author: thedemonslayer time: 2017-11-19 00:06:32

trojandrew replied at 2017-11-16 22:54
on average for 10x janken you get between 25-35 gold reishi, i've had it were i've gotten under 10 a ...

I've had times where I've gotten 0 from a 10X janken

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