Stenritter vs HVI

EdmondGzv

I decided to get Sternritter lately, however i got destroyed in csb by a HVI like nothing else before...i started researching again
Their mods are basically same, except for that ignore defense 40% add crit of Sternitter + Muken, and no chaos immune on HVI.
However, skilling without fury seems overpowered and a stacked stenritter who had about 2m hp..did almost 3m dmg to my team, except VG
Today not so stacked HVI about 900k hp hit about 4m except VG, so i'm starting questioning their dmg output.
Ofc i take in consideration that Stenritter+muken is the way to go, also I can't justify the 10k difference almost everytime. Bargain hvi 40 credit-Sternritter 50
I would like that people who have one of this too says some reals up and downs. I was 100% percent to go for sternritter and muken in the long run, however the hvi from today changed my perspective..

P.S: The thing about stacked and hp is from excl, u know a stacked partner, even a support ...instead of having 800-900K hp has 1.5m so you know he's stacked. I cant say BP, but I'm 100% they were the most stacked of the team.
So, what about dmg output who wins this? Is possible to make your sternritter skill every round? why is 10k gold (at least) gap between them as for me they seem the most equal partners into the game thanks

Aratron

sternitter is cool and all but i stunned him and he is out...

Take HVI he is the strongest assaulter in my opinion

EdmondGzv

Aratron replied at 2018-10-15 07:33
sternitter is cool and all but i stunned him and he is out...

Take HVI he is the strongest assault ...

Thanks for suggestion, yea they don't have immune to stun, but there aren't too many partners in meta that stun so is okay, I kinda want to go for HVI also because I think is easier to build the formation around him..I have a guy in my csb with ichimonji-sternritter-bwb-hvi-kugo who I just obliterate because he don't stack them enough, if I pick one I want him to be Godlike xD What do you think about the price difference?

Aratron

EdmondGzv replied at 2018-10-15 16:49
Thanks for suggestion, yea they don't have immune to stun, but there aren't too many partners in m ...

I don't follow prices because in my country if I give such crazy amounts of money for digital shit you are out of your mind. But i guess wait until x-mass. I can live a year with $1000.....
Sry.. I'm waiting x-mas to do some calculations for cheapest way to get something..

theunknown404

The downside to HVI is that you need to have Kokuto to match Sternritter's 40% defense ignore. You also do not ignore invincibility. They each have their own pro's and con's, but I think HVI has the coolest features of the two. Let's see if they can top both with a new assaulter, eh?

Also, there are plenty of partners that stun nowadays. Kokuto skills and stuns, Valkyrie and Ginjo passively stun. Uryuu can also be silenced, something that Tsukishima can do. I believe his damage potential is slightly better than HVI in Void Region, however, since they disabled HVI's final mod in that event.

Some of HVI's greatest advantages are his relatively high speed, shield generation, and not needing fury to skill. Uyuu really is slow even if he's a hard hitter. He doesn't have much in terms of keeping control effects off himself, which he kind of needs for being so slow. It's up to the supporters to keep him safe from the control effects, but Tsukishima can mess that up as well. Uryuu's accumulative avoid injury rate gain per hit and HP reduction can be very nice, too. I'd rather just throw out Muken and have both HVI and Uyruu on the same team.

You should not assume that the newest and most expensive partners are always the best. I still use Haschwalth, and he presents a problem to a lot of people.

EdmondGzv

theunknown404 replied at 2018-10-15 12:40
The downside to HVI is that you need to have Kokuto to match Sternritter's 40% defense ignore. You a ...

Sorry for late reply, had a really busy day yesterday.. About a new assaulter better than those 2, I really hope Hans is an assaulter better because I got some sternritters and hvi in my csb so if I got the upper hand with a better assaulter who knows..I'm getting blocked almost everyday from first row because of uryu and hvi..I understand what do you want to say with your Hasch, but that's just you knowing how to bring up the goods of the partner, thanks a lot for your comment

StormShield

EdmondGzv replied at 2018-10-16 09:10
Sorry for late reply, had a really busy day yesterday.. About a new assaulter better than those 2, ...

Put the HVI man some block and combine it with kokuto (sdt is the second good alternative to increase income dmg of hvi by a lot) . As long as he is not stunned /chaosed - he will one shot the team pretty much ( in very rare cases he will not)