BUFFS THAT OVERWRITE ZANGETSU

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bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-17 00:06
No clue, another note, I was going to get Ultimate Aizen today anddddddd HMA is bugged for me LOL

What happened??

I will get him this week or start of next week...

Well, i am not levle 130 yet so more realistically start of next month... not like i need him though haha

MikkyX

thepoke007 replied at 2015-9-16 19:16
did try her once didn't find her satisfying that's why i'm building a 1 3 1 team for pve ura to give ...

Nice plan, I was thinking of that to replace my rukia, but I wonder, if you only use kisuke, will that be enough to make isshin skill every round?  Because if I'm not mistaken even with combo, I'm not sure that isshin will be skilling every round.  I usually relied on kisuke and rukia to do this, because since he comboes, he gets one extra attack, but he'd need 50 more fury to skill again, that's why I used kisuke, rukia, but I'm not sure that if with only kisuke, the damage would decrease or be higher.

MikkyX

bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-17 00:06
No clue, another note, I was going to get Ultimate Aizen today anddddddd HMA is bugged for me LOL

Yeah I hear a lot of people complain about HMA been bugged.  What I'd suggest is do or exchange stuff at HMA one hour after reset.  I used to do HMA immediately after reset and it was bugged.  Now I do it one hour before reset and it's fine, but if you do it one hour after reset, I think you won't have any problems.

MikkyX

[email protected] replied at 2015-9-16 22:08
what do you mean? Yeah, the zan always skills off first then partners, which then overwrites it...

Well a guy in my server has a very well built team and makes sure nothing is overwritten.  He has sogyo, he uses 8th skill and has cute orhime and sexy yoroichi.  Sogyo boosts everybody's attack, cute orhime gives damage buff to assaulters and vanguard and sexy yoroichi gives damage buff to supporters.

NO buffs overwritten nor nothing, so he does very good damage in ES and ryoka.  Too bad he doesn't have isshin to increase it more.

thepoke007

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-17 07:05
Nice plan, I was thinking of that to replace my rukia, but I wonder, if you only use kisuke, will  ...

i tried ryoka once with my pvp ishin and main skills every turn for 3 turns i have whatched maybe it was a fluke or not i'll rewhatch today again and see,

i use pvp now cuz of laziness but also to lvl my stark and yoru/aizen

shadarlo

I personally don't think Muramasa is a good Zan for anyone with Isshin.  You need Isshin to be your fastest partner, no ifs ands or buts.  Zangestsu is your best choice unless you can get Tensa or Senbon.

You'll do the same or more damage with Rukia than Cute Orihime... at least my guild mate who tried her out with lease for a day said his damage dropped a tiny bit from rukia to cute when using Zang.  I'd think the block increase would make it a wash, but apparently not.  This is good news though since you  have rukia already... just keep her.  Wait to see if they fix Cute and make her attack like she's supposed to be... then she'll mess with skill 9 instead

Sogyo + Cute + Sexy + Isshin is a great combo. Use skill 8 and enjoy.  Sexy is an utter beast for PvE.  She's dramatically better than cute if you had to pick one or the other to invest a little money into (I have both).

MikkyX

shadarlo replied at 2015-9-17 09:18
I personally don't think Muramasa is a good Zan for anyone with Isshin.  You need Isshin to be your  ...

Thing with sogyo though is pvp.  Pve he'd be very very good, but outside, for pvp, since the lack of speed, he isn't very good.

As for muramasa and isshin, I think since muramasa gives speed to supporters, you can focus your high agility stones on isshin to compensate the lack of speed buffs on him.  Though I can't be very certain how effective this is as I've never tried it.  It's all hypothetical.

bwg2469

[email protected] replied at 2015-9-16 21:18
What happened??

I will get him this week or start of next week...

Shitty Charter Internet lagged out and it didn't reset haha

shadarlo

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-17 12:43
Thing with sogyo though is pvp.  Pve he'd be very very good, but outside, for pvp, since the lack  ...

It's not effective.  Isshin MUST be ultra fast or you lose, simple as that.  If you're still winning then your opponent simply isn't very strong anyhow and who cares.  You cannot "make up for" anything when it comes to Isshin's speed, he must get every single advantage or you will be losing to people weaker than you that have better speed on their isshin.

On my server we're at a pure speed race now.  We have 5 people who alternate between #1 spot and that spans about 350,000bp (1.3 to 1.65 mil bp).  The lowest of those guys uses Isshin as T1 with Zang.  I use Sexy yoru as T1 still and she combo's into Isshin about 33% of the time so those times Isshin is the same speed as Sexy for me and I can T1 him still.  In a few days ill have Isshin to T1 via Evo +5 fury, then I can beat more people again.

As to Sogyo, I was speaking purely PvE.  For PvP Sogyo blows badly now... the fortify update made Sogyo a useless PvP zan because it can't be fortified with speed.


EDIT> To prove this point, you have more BP than I do, but I beat you in CSB without much trouble at all because my Isshin is faster than yours

MikkyX

shadarlo replied at 2015-9-18 08:13
It's not effective.  Isshin MUST be ultra fast or you lose, simple as that.  If you're still winnin ...

Well for isshin I could use muramasa with gin.  I put gin T1 and stun in 1st round, boom.  But that aside, wow congratz on almost getting 5 fury on isshin's evolution.  I am still at evolution 5.