CSB Aizen VS Ultima Aizen

Curls88

Ultima Aizen                             
STR = 1200           
AGI = 1500
WISDOM = 1400
HP = 4000

Modification
1. 10% DEF
2. 12% HP
3. 12% Avoid Injury rate
4. 12% Speed
5. Immune fury restriction
6. Decrease enemy male characters crit rate by 35%
7. Immune silence

Talent: Increase certain agility by certain percents, naturally has 10% combo rate and aid rate
Skill: Attack all enemies, growth rate is 136%, cast Void on enemy assaulters and fury restriction on enemy support
for 2 rounds. Increase enemy vanguard's attack by 150% and cast Chaos on enemy vanguard for 1 round.

CSB Aizen
STR = 1800
AGI = 2100
WISDOM = 2100
HP = 7200

Modification
1. 7% DEF
2. 10% Break Defense
3. 10% HP
4. 10% Immune rate
5. 10% Speed
6. when being attack, there is 50% chance of deducting enemy fury by 10
7. everytime deduct hp by 10%, bonus increase defense by 3%

Talent: Increase agility by a higher percent, and naturally has 10% avoid injury rate and 7% combo rate.
Skill: Attack all enemies, growth rate is 130%, chance of decreasing enemy fury by 10 points and stun for 3 rounds, stun rate is affected by level difference.

The way I see it is CSB Aizen is faster, does more damage, and equal control to ultima aizen.
Those are the stats for both, you can see that CSB Aizen AGI / WIS / HP so much higher than Ultima Aizen.. which makes him faster, more survival and deals more damage?
What do you think?

595459354

You need the growth stats before you can conclude who's the best imo (but I think Ultima Aizen will be the faster one)

For the poll I picked Ultima Aizen, just because it has a certainty that you'll controll your opponent, as for CSB aizen, you got a chance to stun them. (Besides, I think Mr Roshi already told us the stun rate wasn't that epic)

Curls88

595459354 replied at 2015-2-27 10:15
You need the growth stats before you can conclude who's the best imo (but I think Ultima Aizen will  ...

I can see the growth rate for CSB Aizen, but I can't for ultima.. do you know what is his growth rate.. and if the stats for wis/hp etc are much higher.. shouldn't his growth rate be higher too?
and for the stun.. is that guy fighting others who is higher level than him? cuz the stun is the same for everyone else.. but if csb aizen deals more damage and faster, with more survival.. I would care less about stunning anyone

595459354

No idea, but Ultima aizen is a SSS class while CSB Aizen is SS, so his growht rates might be higher
+ the basic stats doesn't mean that much to me

As for survival, CSB Aizen might be stronger but that doesn't bother me tbh

As for Mr roshi's Aizen idk, you should ask paofui ;)

Curls88

595459354 replied at 2015-2-27 10:28
No idea, but Ultima aizen is a SSS class while CSB Aizen is SS, so his growht rates might be higher  ...

Well Sogyo is SSS and still Zangetsu SS is better than Sogyo in both pvp/pve .. right?

595459354

Curls88 replied at 2015-2-27 17:39
Well Sogyo is SSS and still Zangetsu SS is better than Sogyo in both pvp/pve .. right?

Yup true that haha,
Oh well it seems we won't be seeing a SWP ultimate aizen soon anyway, so grab yourself that CBS aizen ;)

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595459354 replied at 2015-2-27 11:00
Yup true that haha,
Oh well it seems we won't be seeing a SWP ultimate aizen soon anyway, so grab ...

dude you are right and wrong at the same time
true ultima growth rates are higher than CSB aizen but not because of his rank it's because he is red and growth rates of red partners are higher than gold ones ( i think ultima is better BTW )

Evild4nte

I think Ultima Aizen is much more reliable. U can a sure disabling and not that strange stun by chance.

Eilisa

Curls88 replied at 2015-2-27 10:16
I can see the growth rate for CSB Aizen, but I can't for ultima.. do you know what is his growth ra ...

The reason Ultima is better pvp the status effects land 100% of the time unless the partner has a mod that makes them immune. While CSB will never have 100% chance and even if CSB does more overall damage the damage alone doesn't outweigh the value of the control Ultima gives.

Curls88

Eilisa replied at 2015-2-27 11:21
The reason Ultima is better pvp the status effects land 100% of the time unless the partner has a  ...

yes but its all about who attack first.. if mugetsu/white ichigo/main attacks first with 100% fury.. I think both ultima and csb aizen will be on low health.. so then comes the supporters to attack.. and aizen csb is faster than ultima with more dmg.. I think he should be able to finish off the ultima xD.. but its all my theory dont know what happens in a real fight