Katen vs RJ

SkullWild

Anyone have a battle report fight between katen vs RJ users?
I dont wanna see a 1 mil bp player vs a 5 mil bp player, i wanna see a fight between 2 beast who have those SSS zanp and im more curious if katen can handler with rj a bit. And well, will be great, if you can write a opinion about those zanp.

hairytoilet

Hell no can katen stand a chance against RJ, hes way too op and his burn will most likely kill supports and assaulters alone

mayuri1177

A Katen team can win, but they would need to be facing a slower RJ team that doesn't have a stacked defensive partner.  They would need to 1-shot the RJ team before the RJ team gets a turn or have high enough defense and HP to survive the burn/mutilate.  If the RJ team is faster, Katen can still win but the chance is very low.

Prince-Vegeta

hairytoilet replied at 2016-12-22 15:48
Hell no can katen stand a chance against RJ, hes way too op and his burn will most likely kill suppo ...

he's killed me plenty of times my partners cant even attack cause the burn waaay to op bruh im 93 getting whooped in hma by lvl 68 with RJ :/

MylarHyrule

you can win, but it takes a lot more in your party than a RJ user...  in PVE however, Katen wins hands down, and PVE is your best reward zone

mayuri1177

Here is a great example of how Katen "could" win.  The only reason the Katen user lost is my Mayuri is so stacked.  If I had any other partner in place of Mayuri, then I would of lost.  

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

Miken97

RJ user who used to be equal (in terms of bp, well his bp was actually a little bit higher) to me stopped playing but I managed to find  those 2 battle raports:
http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_US
http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_US
Katen is superior in regular PvE and RJ is better in void (since katen buff in void doesn't work).
About PvP, when RJ doesn't have kukaku or stacked vanguard they're pretty much equal (in that case faster wins), but try to find RJ user without one of those That burn+mutilate wouldn't be that problematic ( at some my senju was able to survive 2 rounds and my noza 3 rounds, I think, if I killed all his assaulter in supporters in round 1, so in normal case it would enough to end fight ) if not that defense buff. In first report you have report in which senju got lucky +300% damage from reincarnation and in second when she was unlucky and didn't had critic but in most of fight she was taking half of kukaku's life. With his oetsu attacking, my oetsu wasn't able to even survive while my senju wasn't able to survive long enough to skill second time (plus either way she couldn't repeat such powerful attack withou katen buff). What I could hoped was that senju will kill this oetsu or kukaku (only with +300% damage) or that my oetsu will avoid attack from enemy's oetsu (because my oetsu has chance to ignore enemy's damage as reincarnation effect). Whenever I managed to kill his kukaku his oetsu was dying because my b.renji death mod (with RJ his oetsu never was able to kill my whole team) and whenever i managed to kill his oetsu, then my oetsu could attack and kill his kukaku with mutilate. When my oetsu avoided damage then he had to cast mutilate on kukaku to provide my victory. So yeah, to some point katen can compete with RJ but only on higher level ( on lower ones this burn might be too much to deal with) and you need to be faster than RJ user ( that isn't that hard, RJ has only 2% higher speed and most of RJ user I have seen don't focus on speed as much as Katen users). Also you have to either stack senju pretty hard or depend on reincarnation bonuses (what I used to do).That being said we're getting more and more defensive characters and that's really hard for Katen to keep up. Also we're getting faster characters than senju who aren't compatible with katen ( haschwalth and yoruichi don't do too much damage so they rather can't one-shot whole team).  And RJ has luxury that it's great for stacking vanguard (what is katen's great downside).Afterall, I think that if you want to go PvP then RJ will be better but if you take care about your supporters speed and defense katen still may be almost as good as RJ and if RJ user isn't overpowering you just by his vip level you can still hope to win. Still, I would advise to buy katen only for people whose main focus is PvE and they're treating PvP only as bonus (especially since in PvP gap between RJ and katen is getting only bigger).

chiko88soem

You can win with Katen vs RJ, u "just" need a better stacked kukaku and kill their Assulters and Support fast. Your kukaku needs to have more HP and must be able to out heal the RJ burn with that u can win. Even to have more HP is difficult with Katen, since Katen gives only +40%hp and RJ +60% hp. High attack with high block can help u to win aswell like in this old BR http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_US but RJ is still way better in PVP.here's another example http://logineu.gogames.me/fightreport/?rid=658933145296212202&aid=58&t=1&lang=en_US (very old BR)

SkullWild

Miken97 replied at 2016-12-22 16:39
RJ user who used to be equal (in terms of bp, well his bp was actually a little bit higher) to me st ...

Well i want focus on both, i need pvp for csb and gw and it seems katen is not very strong, i mean,, maybe they should add something new to katen, is too much 40k gold and against rj is nothing.
And even if katen have lucky and defeat rj, need much work on paartners.
Maybe Rj will be 40k or 50k gold.
And i have i want get more dmg for my senju, but i have no idea how can i get, hogyoku don't give much and exclusive is very expensive.

SkullWild

chiko88soem replied at 2016-12-23 03:53
You can win with Katen vs RJ, u "just" need a better stacked kukaku and kill their Assulters and Sup ...

Hiki's Invincibility doesn't work against mutilate? and what's ignite?