Need Help

MazdaRX8

Hi all,
Im lvl 110,at 1mil bp,f2p
My current formation Hollowed Ichigo-Main(kido)-Ikkaku-Gin-Aizen.
Need some help with shinigami Urahara(t1) and shinigami Yoruichi(t1),my oponents team is weaker than mine(though the're vip4+),
my strategy is to 1shot them with mains 10th skill,and with the arena buff i can hardly 2 shot their team.
My Gin's speed is lower by ~2k,but it's not a problem i can upgrade it soon with new set,and Aizen's speed is lower by ~20k(i just got him),
but it also doesnt matter because they get sillenced by Urahara.
Need some advices here,i have some ideas but it'll take ~3 months to make them true.

595459354

The day they introduced the arena HP buff, you should've realised the 1shotway wasn't going to last.

Change your strategy to a control team and you'll have 100%win chances.
Either make your Shini yoru faster than your opponents team (think she won't get hit that way)
Or make your shini uruhara faster than his, etc

MazdaRX8

595459354 replied at 2015-5-23 05:29
The day they introduced the arena HP buff, you should've realised the 1shotway wasn't going to last. ...

u misunderstood....i said that my team is ichigo,ikakku,gin,aizen.Did i said that i have shini yoru or shini ura?
i asked about some strategies to counter them(t1),not how to use them(i know it perfectly)
and untill recently i could easy 1 shot their AS and SUP,just vg left(my dmg on main is high enough+ it's kido type so i kill easy AS and SUP usually have low hp)
About control team i said that i have Gin+Aizen,arent they control type?
and it doesnt matter my speed on them if the enemy is t1(as in my situation) it's no use

Chkval

MazdaRX8 replied at 2015-5-23 13:05
u misunderstood....i said that my team is ichigo,ikakku,gin,aizen.Did i said that i have shini yoru ...

It depends if you have urahara and rukia as partners, and if they are final modded or not. And i said urahara and rukia, since you're f2p.

If not, then it's gonna be a long way, since you need the fury stones no matter how you look at it.

595459354

MazdaRX8 replied at 2015-5-23 12:05
u misunderstood....i said that my team is ichigo,ikakku,gin,aizen.Did i said that i have shini yoru ...

yeah misread that

Well even as a f2p it's possible to start with t1uruhara and another character (eventually/depending how you spent your coupons).

But in case you can't do that, you'll have to go for the other method: tank the 1st hit and control.

VS shini yoru: your gin/dmg dealer has to be faster than her (or you'll never be able to kill her unless trough block)

VS shini uruhara (t1): nothing that you can do vs that, besides killing his support or getting your own T1 fury

MazdaRX8

Chkval replied at 2015-5-23 07:44
It depends if you have urahara and rukia as partners, and if they are final modded or not. And i s ...

i can get t1 urahara,but need some time to reach lvl 100 on him and mod,
but this mean that i'll have to go 1-1-3(need a lot of wisdom stones which is imposible as f2p) or to change gin/aizen(no good option)

MazdaRX8

595459354 replied at 2015-5-23 08:22
yeah misread that

Well even as a f2p it's possible to start with t1uruhara and another character  ...

vs shini yoru isnt as simple as u may think,i kill allmost all my oponents team with my 10th skill(everyone with hp less than half) and other parteners kill vg and main.and gin is stuned by shini urahara
yoruichi is invunerable and urahara(still alive with ~20%hp)keeps filling her fury and she cast her skill every 2 rounds...imposible to win,even with block

595459354

MazdaRX8 replied at 2015-5-23 15:41
vs shini yoru isnt as simple as u may think,i kill allmost all my oponents team with my 10th skill ...

I could show you a link where my Vg destroys the whole opponent's team.. inlcuding shini yoru with block but that won't help you. I'm just listing the things you could do:

In case your opponent has both shini yoru and uruhara t1.. then yeah, he's the one controlling you.
There are always a few characters that you can't go around, certainly if you're a f2p.

Chkval

MazdaRX8 replied at 2015-5-23 16:30
i can get t1 urahara,but need some time to reach lvl 100 on him and mod,
but this mean that i'll h ...

I did not say you'd have to go 1-1-3. With kisuke t1 going 1st on your team, you'd need 25 max to 13 min fury for every other partner to skill (depending on your accessories).

Partner him up with Aizen, who's faster than the other team's supports, so he takes them out: if you get lucky with a stun, plus the fury deduction regardless.

If your main gets to skill, and as you claim, can wipe out the supports, then you're halfway there. If not, then you'd need another aoe partner, such as byakuya or swp ulqiorra, to finish the job.

MazdaRX8

Chkval replied at 2015-5-23 11:46
I did not say you'd have to go 1-1-3. With kisuke t1 going 1st on your team, you'd need 25 max to  ...

yeah,i thought just the same.
I cant get swp ulquiorra(vip1 restriction)but i want to get csb byakuya,or csb aizen.
thanks for adivces