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Post time 2016-2-27 15:58:55 |Show the author posts only |Descending
Edited by SosaRey at 2016-2-27 16:00

I currently use kisuke and shinigami uruhara for pve for supports since  shinigami uruhara skills again and again, if he or kisuke crits.  Though due to b.rukia now appearing, I'm thinking of switching to kirinji.  HIs stats are way higher than shini uruhara, wis stats that is, plus his bond with b.rukia would give him such high damage.  But since I"m not good with numbers calculating I"d like opinion from somebody who's good crunching the numbers.  

My shinigami uruhara basically skills every turn, I have his crit around 80% and if he doesn't then with luck kisuke crits and he skills.  So basically that's 170% every round.  Kirinji does 200% damage every other round but with his high wis stats, way much higher than shini uruhara adding to let's say 7% damage boost from b.rukia, bond, if I do get her, his damage could be near or higher though I'm not sure.  

So I'm not sure who would be better for pve.  Any thoughts?  

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Post time 2016-2-27 16:10:27 |Show the author posts only
Edited by AssassinwithRPG at 2016-2-27 21:11

Simple calculation
Shini urahara 170% x 6 =  1020% over 6 rounds.

Kirinji + kiske 200% first round, 100%(basic attack) next round 200% again. 500% over 3 rounds 1000% over 6 rounds.


Because of the stat diffrence kiriji would do more damage just with this calculation, but he also has chance to burn so yeah, he'll do a hell more.

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I did not consider extra rounds
Other damage rate buffs
Other fury gens
Level diffrence

Over all its just a simple comparisent.

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Post time 2016-2-27 16:15:27 |Show the author posts only
AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-2-27 16:10
Simple calculation
Shini urahara 170% x 6 =  1020% over 6 rounds.

I forgot to mention, since shini uruhara can skill again and again if he crits, I put the crit enchant on him so his damage would increase.  As for level difference, it's like a 12 level difference been shini uruhara the higher leveled.

If kirinji's damage is higher as you say overall then I might have to get b.rukia for him.

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Post time 2016-2-27 16:15:58 |Show the author posts only
Kirinji IMO.               

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Post time 2016-2-27 16:17:19 |Show the author posts only
SosaRey replied at 2016-2-27 21:15
I forgot to mention, since shini uruhara can skill again and again if he crits, I put the crit enc ...

Even without b.rukia he should do hell more,  his mods(attack increase)  and also random 100% burn play a big role.

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Post time 2016-2-27 16:21:17 |Show the author posts only
AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-2-27 16:17
Even without b.rukia he should do hell more,  his mods(attack increase)  and also random 100% burn ...

So burn affects ryoka/ES?  I didn't know that.

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Post time 2016-2-27 16:23:24 |Show the author posts only
SosaRey replied at 2016-2-27 21:21
So burn affects ryoka/ES?  I didn't know that.

Yep, if I'm correct at least. It's not a forbidding effect so it should. (Definitely works in Ultimate Ninja but not 100% sure here)  Only DOT that doesn't work on ES and ryoka would be multitude or what ever as it does percentage of HP damage which would be OP.

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Post time 2016-2-27 16:24:21 |Show the author posts only
NNatsu replied at 2016-2-27 16:15
Kirinji IMO.

I know that with evo, kirinji would clearly be the winner but unfortunately I can't do evo on him now.  I got too many partners before him evoing.  I thought with the skilling every round plus crit enchant he'd still do more but I guess you might be right.

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Post time 2016-2-27 16:31:07 |Show the author posts only
SosaRey replied at 2016-2-27 16:24
I know that with evo, kirinji would clearly be the winner but unfortunately I can't do evo on him  ...

I don't think it'll be too much of a damage difference to matter too much, but Kirinji is the better partner for sure.

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Post time 2016-2-27 16:33:51 |Show the author posts only
AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-2-27 16:23
Yep, if I'm correct at least. It's not a forbidding effect so it should. (Definitely works in Ulti ...

burn works... i used my yama at the end when i couldn't one shot again.
Anyway, the burn works. well for yama it didn't do much around 26,000 - 30,000 dmg.
was expected an actually 25% of total health thou.
Anyway, kirinji should do monstrously well.

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