partner formation and spirit stone question

ajoalex

My formation is sado/ichi-main(spirit blade)-renji/momo

some doubts reg spirit stones

-do momo need str SS, if so why
-does anyone else apart from momo need wisdom SS, if so why
-do sado need dodge SS, i have 6 of lvl 4 equipped on him as of now.
-does anyone else apart from sado need dodge, if so why
-which is of higher priority for sado hit rate or break defence
-will anyone apart from MAIN benefit from fury stones?



My formation numbering is 1 - Main, 2- Momo, 3- Ichi, 4-Renji, 5-Sado
In the formation there is no way to make Momo 1, but when PvP i do see that their Momo attacks first before Main, how is that achieved?
Agility in terms of SS is highest for my Main, then Momo. If its based on agility then what does the numbering in formation mean?

Thanks, welcoming pro replies to understand the attributes better.

d13daman

-do momo need str SS, if so why
Yes and no, she is kido, needs wisdom, STR is good for defense for her.
-does anyone else apart from momo need wisdom SS, if so why
Sado, Ichigo, Renji
-do sado need dodge SS, i have 6 of lvl 4 equipped on him as of now.
Nope, needs Block
-does anyone else apart from sado need dodge, if so why
Dodge is not as good since most people have hit SS by then, block is the way to go
-which is of higher priority for sado hit rate or break defence
Hit rate
-will anyone apart from MAIN benefit from fury stones?
Usually suporters like Rukia, Yoruich, Urahara, Harribel



My formation numbering is 1 - Main, 2- Momo, 3- Ichi, 4-Renji, 5-Sado
In the formation there is no way to make Momo 1, but when PvP i do see that their Momo attacks first before Main, how is that achieved?
Stack more agility on main
Agility in terms of SS is highest for my Main, then Momo. If its based on agility then what does the numbering in formation mean?
Don't know what you mean here.


I'm not 100% on my answers but fairly close.

ajoalex

d13daman replied at 2014-10-14 01:59
-do momo need str SS, if so why
Yes and no, she is kido, needs wisdom, STR is good for defense for h ...

thanks a lot for the reply

does anyone else apart from momo need wisdom SS, if so why
Sado, Ichigo, Renji

-why would sado,ichi, renji need wisdom?

-do sado need dodge SS, i have 6 of lvl 4 equipped on him as of now.
Nope, needs Block
-does anyone else apart from sado need dodge, if so why
Dodge is not as good since most people have hit SS by then, block is the way to go

-so then there is no point for dodge SS for my partners, and i am simply wasting 6 slots for sado right?

In the formation there is no way to make Momo 1, but when PvP i do see that their Momo attacks first before Main, how is that achieved?
Stack more agility on main

-agility is highest on main only, i was wanting to know how do i get Momo to attack first instead of Main

Agility in terms of SS is highest for my Main, then Momo. If its based on agility then what does the numbering in formation mean?
Don't know what you mean here.

i meant, if agility is the reason that decides who attacks first from a team, then what does the numbering in the formation tab represent

d13daman

does anyone else apart from momo need wisdom SS, if so why
Sado, Ichigo, Renji

-why would sado,ichi, renji need wisdom?

I missread, I thought you said STR again, sado could use wisdom for defense, the same goes for Ichigo and Renji and basically any other partner, if you have stones to spare.

-do sado need dodge SS, i have 6 of lvl 4 equipped on him as of now.
Nope, needs Block
-does anyone else apart from sado need dodge, if so why
Dodge is not as good since most people have hit SS by then, block is the way to go

-so then there is no point for dodge SS for my partners, and i am simply wasting 6 slots for sado right?

Yea block > dodge  

In the formation there is no way to make Momo 1, but when PvP i do see that their Momo attacks first before Main, how is that achieved?
Stack more agility on main

-agility is highest on main only, i was wanting to know how do i get Momo to attack first instead of Main
Stack more agility on Momo

Agility in terms of SS is highest for my Main, then Momo. If its based on agility then what does the numbering in formation mean?
Don't know what you mean here.

i meant, if agility is the reason that decides who attacks first from a team, then what does the numbering in the formation tab represent
The numbering in the formation tab represents who has more speed (agility) and the order they will attack, if you stack more agility on momo, her formation number becomes 1 when she has more speed than the rest.

ajoalex

i meant, if agility is the reason that decides who attacks first from a team, then what does the numbering in the formation tab represent
The numbering in the formation tab represents who has more speed (agility) and the order they will attack, if you stack more agility on momo, her formation number becomes 1 when she has more speed than the rest.

now this makes sense, got it, thanks

Glasglow

Well, i think people already answered your questions but i'll go answer them for you again, maybe my opinion isn't going to be like someone elses.


-Momo does not need STR stones, frankly there are not enough socket slots to put in less than optimal stones in your partners, unless you unlock all the gear slots.
- All supports need wisdom, and Kido mains, also vanguard might need wisdom at higher levels, because most vanguards suffer from low Strategy def.
-Sado will benefit greatly from dodge stones, don't let anyone tell you that dodge is useless, you should run both block and dodge on your vanguard, because if they miss a hit, that means they do no damage and they do not generaty fury for that turn, which sets them back by a lot, and no you can't put dodge on other partners unless you unlock more socket slots, because you have more important stones to socket.
-Neither, your vanguard does not need HIT or Break defense, because he doesn't do much damage to get reflected back for from block, and even if he does, he doesn't take much damage either. As for HIT, vanguard skills are usually not very important, unless you run Toshiro or a higher vanguard that is meant for damage and sustain.
-Yes, Urahara/Rukia combo greatly benefits from fury stones as-well, but thats for PvE.

You can make momo go first by letting her have more agility than your main and the number in the formation, signifies the order in which your partners attack.
It basically rates them by their agility.

ajoalex

Glasglow replied at 2014-10-14 04:51
Well, i think people already answered your questions but i'll go answer them for you again, maybe my ...

so 100% dodge means, one would never get hit?

yeah as of now i have 6 of each dodge/block/strength/stamina/counter on sado

also 6 str/agi/stamina/hit rate/crit on assaulters

and 6 wisdom/agi/crit/break on momo


thanks for the detailed reply

ajoalex

at which level can one unlock the remaining two stone slots?